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Alton Speers

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« on: July 21, 2005, 07:48:55 am »

Stuff of spy novels? Or is paranoia tightening it's grip?

VP Dick Cheney was involved in war games on 9/11/01 in Noo Yawk. Apparently a private firm was doing the same thing during the recent bombings in London. Here's an interesting read on those bombings:
http://www.mg.co.za/articlePage.aspx?artic...ht__columnists/

While accusations and suspicions of foreknowledge of the London bombings float around, here's one that you definitely don't want to miss:
http://www.uruknet.info/?p=m13901&l=i&size=1&hd=0

Eerily similar to circumstances around 9/11, eh?

Since 9/11 there has been a fear of some sort of nuclear attack on the US. Whether by actual nuclear bomb of briefcase size or larger or perhaps what's called a dirty bomb which simply litters the immediate environment with radioactive debris, no one really knows. What people do know is that they are afraid.

Enter NorthCom. NothCom is US Military region known as North America and it is called the Northern Command. As most military commands do, they will be playing war games in August this year. The scenario? Nuclear attack on the US. You can read about it
here. Could this be a false flag? Sure would be a convenient pretext. I know I'm NOT going to be in South Carolina that week. Maybe my aluminum chapeau is a little loose but I think I'll be ordering some supplies before then.

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« Reply #1 on: July 21, 2005, 08:14:59 pm »

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“Each time we do one of these internal exercises, we try to make it more robust and try to add in fidelity,” Defluri said. “That’s what we’re trying to do for SR05: create a good scenario and be able to replicate the effects as best we can. That way we can give the command a really good CM exercise.”

Hmm... what'd "replicate the effects" better than actual nuke?! ;)
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« Reply #2 on: July 21, 2005, 09:14:16 pm »

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Stuff of spy novels? Or is paranoia tightening it's grip?

VP Dick Cheney was involved in war games on 9/11/01 in Noo Yawk. Apparently a private firm was doing the same thing during the recent bombings in London. Here's an interesting read on those bombings:
http://www.mg.co.za/articlePage.aspx?artic...ht__columnists/

While accusations and suspicions of foreknowledge of the London bombings float around, here's one that you definitely don't want to miss:
http://www.uruknet.info/?p=m13901&l=i&size=1&hd=0

Eerily similar to circumstances around 9/11, eh?

Since 9/11 there has been a fear of some sort of nuclear attack on the US. Whether by actual nuclear bomb of briefcase size or larger or perhaps what's called a dirty bomb which simply litters the immediate environment with radioactive debris, no one really knows. What people do know is that they are afraid.

Enter NorthCom. NothCom is US Military region known as North America and it is called the Northern Command. As most military commands do, they will be playing war games in August this year. The scenario? Nuclear attack on the US. You can read about it
here. Could this be a false flag? Sure would be a convenient pretext. I know I'm NOT going to be in South Carolina that week. Maybe my aluminum chapeau is a little loose but I think I'll be ordering some supplies before then.

Alton

As experience has shown, on these boards and elsewhere, the majority of people are predisposed to believe that governments are unable to engineer catastrophes. Nevermind the plethora of hard news evidence . . . any thinking person who has seen the film of #7 collapsing in a perfectly controlled demolition some 8 hours after the destruction of #'s 1 and 2, must logically conclude that high level cabinet members were complicit in the events of that day.

For what it's worth, I think the only incident, post 9-11, capable of enabling the federal government to assume martial law is a nuclear event or events on U.S. soil. Would you put it past the people that could plan and execute 9-11?  
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« Reply #3 on: July 22, 2005, 01:44:13 am »

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Could this be a false flag? Sure would be a convenient pretext. I know I'm NOT going to be in South Carolina that week. Maybe my aluminum chapeau is a little loose but I think I'll be ordering some supplies before then.

Alton
It would be Virginia to stay away from.
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“We’re trying to get representatives from FEMA Region IV as well as representatives from South Carolina Emergency Management Division and active duty soldiers from the (Chemical, Biological, Radiological, Nuclear and Explosive) Consequence Management Response Force to play the role of task force units,” Defluri said.
Not sure why they are inviting SCEMA folks, but, "The Sudden Response exercise has been held at Quantico, Va., in the past, but has been moved to Fort Monroe to maximize command post training time."
From the byline, "FORT MONROE, Va."
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« Reply #4 on: July 22, 2005, 06:24:00 am »

Thanks for catching that Ragnar!

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« Reply #5 on: July 22, 2005, 06:47:56 am »

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For what it's worth, I think the only incident, post 9-11, capable of enabling the federal government to assume martial law is a nuclear event or events on U.S. soil. Would you put it past the people that could plan and execute 9-11?
The Glenn Beck show, on Thursday, July 21, 2005, featured for about an hour a guest author and FBI consultant who swears that "al Qeada is going to detonate seven nukes in as many cities - soon!" I do not care to even try to figure if this guy is straight or a plant - it doesn't matter. What matters is that the media, the news, the press, the talk on the streets and in groups and institutions and all governmental offices, is that there will be another serious "terrorist" event.

There is a lot of talk coming across the wires and airwaves lately about nukes. The bastards are giving warning to those who've got enough sense left to heed a warning. Ads on the radio tell us to go to "ready.gov" to get our asses ready for the aftermath of major traumatic events. (These idiots are much kinder than Hitler was, because, I suppose, they know they have much more control than Hitler ever did.) There is also a lot of talk about al Qaeda and Islamic fascism. The public is being whipped into a frenzy, getting the public ready to accept the FEMA concentration camps (they're calling them "internment camps" right now). But they're only for those Islamic fascists and "terrorist sympathizers". And pot smokers and disbelievers and doubters and dissenters - you know, all the people who refuse to go along with the program.

Just for one word of clarity and sanity, from me to whoever reads this thread - Get your asses OUT of the damned cities! Head for the mountains and high places. These neo-con globalizing socialist statecraft idiots, the CFR/PNAC bad-asses working behind the Bush Administration worship death, and they're tired of the threat posed by the Barbarians possessing the Internet. They fully intend to pull off another massive terrorist attack (or several in conjunction) so they can drop that iron net of totalitarianism across our lands and lives.

Stop what you're doing and go read this whole two-piece article, unless you've read it several times already; and read the whole thang. The goddamned FBI has been culturing about forty goddamned al Qaeda cells in this country, monitoring and surveiling them so they will know who to arrest when the next "terror" event happens. They are intentionally leaving these assets on the street, even though they know they're planning (with CIA help) to do us in. Read the damned report if you've not already done so.

http://www.thementalmilitia.org/modules.ph...order=0&thold=0

Repeat, for those who have ears with which to hear and eyes with which to see - get out of the cities - NOW.

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« Reply #6 on: July 22, 2005, 07:07:54 am »

Fort Monroe is on the active "Close" list this year. Politicos from VA (Warner, on downward) are currently busy trying to keep it open, saying we need it, it's in an important, viable location (it sure is!), it's always been a significant defensive military installation, etc. Wonder how its closure fits in with the upcoming "show" you're discussing? Wonder too how much the fed/state/local politicos know?
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« Reply #7 on: July 22, 2005, 07:19:36 am »

Added:
In fact a number of military installations due to close this year were in the South and East, and I've wondered why, what significance if any. Any thoughts?
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« Reply #8 on: July 22, 2005, 10:20:19 am »

Doubtful there's any real significance other than an over-abundance of bases.  In my area alone, in a 20 mi radius there's approximately 7 military bases, possibly more that I'm forgetting.

One of the larger of the bases here has been on the BRAC list for a while and the sheeple are worried that if the base goes bye-bye that the economy will collapse.  I've had little to no luck in convincing people that 'Nature abhors a vacuum' and that something will always fill whatever hole is left behind.

Another disadvantage is that the vast majority of people in the area rely on the military for so much and it is a false economy.  With the government paying all of these people, the merchant's incomes are being paid for with stolen money.  It would be a more stable economy if the money wasn't taken from them in the first place.

I know I didn't word that well, but I hope you understand what I'm TRYING to say there.

 
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« Reply #9 on: July 22, 2005, 10:25:20 am »

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I know I didn't word that well, but I hope you understand what I'm TRYING to say there.
No, please Shevek it for us  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  
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« Reply #10 on: July 22, 2005, 01:00:25 pm »

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No, please Shevek it for us  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:
Define shevek.    ;)  
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« Reply #11 on: July 22, 2005, 01:41:42 pm »

I understood perfectly, Thunder. I hear it every day.

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In my area alone, in a 20 mi radius there's approximately 7 military bases, possibly more that I'm forgetting.

Sounds like the same area I'm in.
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« Reply #12 on: July 22, 2005, 03:57:40 pm »

The bases that are near me are:
Ft. Monroe
Ft. Eustis
Langley AFB
Norfolk Naval Base
Norfolk Naval Air Station
Cheatham Annex
Yorktown Naval Weapons Station
Camp Peary (CIA base)
Oceana Naval Air Station
Little Creek Amphibious Base
St. Julien's Annex
Dam Neck

Along with:
Norfolk Naval Shipyard
Portsmouth Naval SHipyard
Newport News Shipyard


Ok, so that's more than 7......
 
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« Reply #13 on: July 22, 2005, 04:15:40 pm »

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The bases that are near me are:
Ft. Monroe
Ft. Eustis
Langley AFB
Norfolk Naval Base
Norfolk Naval Air Station
Cheatham Annex
Yorktown Naval Weapons Station
Camp Peary (CIA base)
Oceana Naval Air Station
Little Creek Amphibious Base
St. Julien's Annex
Dam Neck

Along with:
Norfolk Naval Shipyard
Portsmouth Naval SHipyard
Newport News Shipyard


Ok, so that's more than 7......
Not Cheatham Annex :o

Choice duty way back when. 60 opticians in a shack in the woods, making eyeglasses. We had deer season on the base, 2 lakes and a river with great fishing, and lived off base by William and Mary College....pretty girls and excellent dope. What a life! B)

Now that Camp Peary was a scary place.....me and a couple of guys rented a house on a dirt road in the country. Weird stuff going on there. About once a week you'd see men in black worming down ditches on the side of the road. Throw rocks across their fence into the woods and a few minutes later a truck would come by to investigate...wired for sound! Once a week a note would be left on the door cautioning residents not to trespass and if small children should venture onto government property, have them stand perfectly still, and call a certain tel# for assistance. Activities around that place sure would weird out the psyche of the trippin' 60's brain. :ph34r:  
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« Reply #14 on: July 22, 2005, 06:30:44 pm »

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The bases that are near me are:
etc, etc.

Yep, close enough for horseshoes...
(Plus FBI, DEA, ATF, Interpol offices, and military & fed "research" facilities.)




 
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