I would like to ask you to find one - just one - major steel building which has collapsed because of fire, even intense fire. Just one steel building anywhere in history which collapsed due to fire.
I can name two, and the dates:
Both world trade center towers in New York City on September 11th, 2001.
Prove me wrong.
First, I would like an answer from ultralongrunner, to whom I addressed the question of steel buildings which have allegedly collapsed due to fire. His statements regarding fire and steel buildings may be misleading. I am told by several sources that no steel building in the history of steel buildings has ever been collapsed by fire, yet ultralongrunner seems to have evidence to the contrary about that. If he can name just one steel building which has been collapsed by fire, I know a lot of people who would dearly love to receive that information.
Secondly, the government's official story is that the twin towers were collapsed by intense fire, despite the fact that no other steel building in history is known to have collapsed by fire, and if the government's story is true, it shall mark the first time in the history of man-made steel buildings in which a steel building was collapsed by fire. Amazingly, on 911, not just one building is alleged to have collapsed by fire, but three. You see, not only does the government state that the twin towers were brought down by fire, it also claims that WTC 7 was also brought down by a combination of fire and weakened "faces". (See my article at the link above for full details on NIST and FEMA reports as published in Popular Mechanics Magazine in their March, 2005 issue.) So when you ask me to prove that the twin towers were not brought down by fire, you are asking me to prove that the government is lying. I have already done so, as you shall see. If the government has lied about WTC 7, why should you and I think the government is not lying about WTC 1 and WTC 2? In fact, if the government has lied about WTC 7, it should then be on the government's back to prove it is not lying about WTC 1 and WTC 2.
I do indeed claim that the government is lying. I claim that controlled demolitions brought down all three WTC buildings which collapsed on 911 - WTC 1, WTC 2, and WTC 7. I shall consider proving that to you, providing that you'll first agree to read the materials I bring forth. For instance, in the above link in which I addressed ultralongrunner, I included a link. Did you click that link and then read that page? If you did, you already know that the WTC lease-owner for the whole WTC complex was one Mr. Larry Silverstein, and you already know that he has stated publicly that the building WTC7 was "pulled", or, in other words, made to collapse by the use of well-engineered controlled demolition. The official government story about WTC 7 completely ignores what the owner said, that he and the FDNY decided to do to bring WTC 7 down. Either Mr. Silverstein is a liar, or the government is a liar, and if you read that article you shall see that for yourself.
So before I begin the laborious process of dragging up all the proof necessary to convince you that the government is lying about how the twin towers came down on 911, I would like to receive your spoken agreement that you shall at least read the evidence I bring here for you. Is that fair enough?
As a beginning, after you read my indictment on the Editor of Popular Mechanics Magazine and his lies, why not also read this article which is over at Lew Rockwell dot com?
http://www.lewrockwell.com/reynolds/reynolds12.htmlElias
(post edited to give the nod to Alton Speers, who posted that Lew Rockwell link earlier in the thread. Sorry to repeat that link - I had overlooked it until re-reading the thread just now. Shoulda known that Alton would already have that link, lol.)
