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According to the article:  "Constitutional law, as interpreted by the Supreme Court, does not generally give people a right to expect the police to protect them against harm."  So there is no right - presumably expectation either - for police to protect the public.  Well this poses the question:  Just what are police in existence for then?  Is it to take money from the people for local governments?  And does this "no obligation for the police to protect people" extend to the expectation that they will not only stand by while a deadly shooting is occurring, with impunity, but that they will actually be part of a conspiracy to put people, children included, in harm's way, in order to further their personal agendas?

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/06/04/us/parkland-scot-peterson.html

HOLLYWOOD, Fla. — As bullets ricocheted and bodies fell in the hallways and classrooms at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School last year, Deputy Scot Peterson was outside the building. Instead of storming in after the 19-year-old gunman, he retreated to a position of safety.
[Update: Scot Peterson appeared in court on Wednesday. Read the latest story and the three steps he is accused of missing.]
For more than a year after the February 2018 attack in Parkland, Fla., grieving parents have demanded that Mr. Peterson — along with the gunman who killed 17 and injured 17 — be held accountable in what would prove to be one of the nation’s worst school shootings. On Tuesday, law enforcement responded with a sweeping list of charges that resulted in Mr. Peterson’s arrest. His alleged crime: failing to protect the students.

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the police are here to protect the bureaucrats, the system of power, nothing more.

the police are not elected by the people. but hired by the controllers for their protection only   
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Do you think this prosecution will stand?  Or will the sheriff use the defence of "I had no obligation to do anything other than cower away"?  Do you think he, or they probably (as it seems he wasn't the only one) just totally wimped out or do you think they were all part of a larger conspiracy to impose gun controls?

And I have seen at least one article (admittedly a while ago now so I can't remember where it came from) which said that these police were ordered BY THEIR HIERARCHY, NOT BY SCOTT PETERSON, to stand down, so as to sacrifice these kids to the "gun control agenda".  So will the local government of Broward county ever be held to account as well as Scott Petersen or will the bureaucrats come to his aid and "drop the prosecution" (as in the Jussy Smollet case)?  Is Scott Peterson to "take the fall", be "the sacrifice" because someone somewhere has decided to have a prosecution?  Or it could be just a "show" and his exoneration has already been written (as in the Hillary Clinton case)?

So many questions.
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I think this is just a show trial.

How many police are convicted of murder?

more people are killed by the police than any other group.

they will go through the moves of this show trial. but nothing will be done.
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Do you think this prosecution will stand?  Or will the sheriff use the defence of "I had no obligation to do anything other than cower away"?  Do you think he, or they probably (as it seems he wasn't the only one) just totally wimped out or do you think they were all part of a larger conspiracy to impose gun controls?

And I have seen at least one article (admittedly a while ago now so I can't remember where it came from) which said that these police were ordered BY THEIR HIERARCHY, NOT BY SCOTT PETERSON, to stand down, so as to sacrifice these kids to the "gun control agenda".  So will the local government of Broward county ever be held to account as well as Scott Petersen or will the bureaucrats come to his aid and "drop the prosecution" (as in the Jussy Smollet case)?  Is Scott Peterson to "take the fall", be "the sacrifice" because someone somewhere has decided to have a prosecution?  Or it could be just a "show" and his exoneration has already been written (as in the Hillary Clinton case)?

So many questions.

they will probably convict him of something, he is the ideal candidate, fat, cowardly and white,  for throwing under the bus to show they really, really care. Of course he should be convicted of all charges.
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I may be wrong, but it is my understanding that there are several supreme court pronouncements regarding the fact that the police cannot be expected to prevent crime. Were they required to prevent crimes, their local jurisdictions' legal order/structure would be sued to high heaven on a daily basis. They sometimes do prevent crimes, but usually they are nowhere around when/where a crime is being committed. They are expected to investigate a crime after the fact, and in other ways serve as extensions of the government of respective sectors.
But as stated, such is simply my own understanding, and I've no idea whether it's correct or not.
My gut feeling on this one? That cop is the scapegoat and his actions are very convenient for the local government officials, (who also are not required by law to prevent crimes, even their own, lol!).
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I may be wrong too, but I always thought there was a supreme ct decision that police have no duty to protect  individuals.  the difference here is that scott peterson's express mission and purpose was to protect the children in the school. instead of doing that, he hid.
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I may be wrong too, but I always thought there was a supreme ct decision that police have no duty to protect  individuals.  the difference here is that scott peterson's express mission and purpose was to protect the children in the school. instead of doing that, he hid.

jamie,
What you say makes sense to me. I was not aware that the cop was assigned to the school as his responsibility.  In that case, then he truly was being a coward and dishonoring his badge as well as all sense of moral duty. Thank you for bringing that to my attention.
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I may be wrong too, but I always thought there was a supreme ct decision that police have no duty to protect  individuals.  the difference here is that scott peterson's express mission and purpose was to protect the children in the school. instead of doing that, he hid.

jamie,
What you say makes sense to me. I was not aware that the cop was assigned to the school as his responsibility.  In that case, then he truly was being a coward and dishonoring his badge as well as all sense of moral duty. Thank you for bringing that to my attention.
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Assuming it was a real event rather than a staged show.

Were it a planned training activity OF COURSE the enforcers would be expected to not interrupt the thing.
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I may be wrong too, but I always thought there was a supreme ct decision that police have no duty to protect  individuals.  the difference here is that scott peterson's express mission and purpose was to protect the children in the school. instead of doing that, he hid.

jamie,
What you say makes sense to me. I was not aware that the cop was assigned to the school as his responsibility.  In that case, then he truly was being a coward and dishonoring his badge as well as all sense of moral duty. Thank you for bringing that to my attention.
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from the arrest warrant for this guy

“The facts further established that Deputy Scot Peterson was aware that Nikolas Cruz was inside the 1200 Building at MSD while he was positioned between the 700 and 800 Buildings. Deputy Peterson, as a School Resource Officer, was assigned the duty and responsibility of protecting Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School and its occupants, including students of a minor age and therefore was responsible for the welfare and safety of the MSD students inside the 1200 Building during the time the active shooter was firing his weapon inside the building. Deputy Peterson knowingly and willingly failed to act pursuant to his law enforcement training and sworn duties which directed him to promptly address the active shooter (Cruz) within the 1200 building; instead retreating to a position of increased personal safety.

“During the time Deputy Peterson remained between the 700 and 800 Buildings; Cruz continued to actively shoot inside the 1200 Building and subsequently shot and killed one teacher and 5 students, four of the students being under the age of 18. In addition, Cruz shot and injured one adult teacher and three students under the age of 18 during the aforementioned timespan.”
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I may be wrong too, but I always thought there was a supreme ct decision that police have no duty to protect  individuals.  the difference here is that scott peterson's express mission and purpose was to protect the children in the school. instead of doing that, he hid.

jamie,
What you say makes sense to me. I was not aware that the cop was assigned to the school as his responsibility.  In that case, then he truly was being a coward and dishonoring his badge as well as all sense of moral duty. Thank you for bringing that to my attention.
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Assuming it was a real event rather than a staged show.

Were it a planned training activity OF COURSE the enforcers would be expected to not interrupt the thing.

there are always false flags.
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There should at least be some questions raised about the "diversity hire" programme.  Should there be some accountability for that?  Was this done on purpose?  If it was a "false flag" incident, then the incompetence of a "captain" who was a "diversity hire" would be a perfect cover.  "She didn't deliberately mess up, she was just inexperienced and 'in over her head' with the unfortunate result that the police on the scene were told to 'stand down'".  Was she, and does she continue to be, in the job for that specific reason?  Why does she continue to be in the job after such a major fiasco?  Is another shooting planned for the near future, with this "diversity" woman once again in charge of making sure that the police do not intervene?

How can Jan Jordan sleep at night without squirming with embarrassment at her blunder and knowing that she was "used" not for her competence but for her arrogance and stupidity?

So many questions?

https://www.informationliberation.com/?id=59456

Andrew Pollack, father of Meadow Pollack who was killed at Parkland, on Wednesday shared video of Broward County Sheriff Scott Israel admitting Captain Jan Jordan was a diversity hire.

Jordan gave what was effectively a stand down order during the shooting in Parkland, telling her officers to form a "perimeter" rather than immediately engage the shooter.

"Sheriff Israel admits Captain Jordan was recommended based on 'diversity' NOT qualifications," Pollack said. "Captain Jan Jordan froze during the Parkland shooting. Officers said she was in over her head."

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