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Re: NZ Mass Shooting _ What Say Ye mouse?
« Reply #30 on: April 01, 2019, 06:42:07 am »

Quote from: slidemansailor link=topic=36598.msg459662#msg459662 date=1554

We outnumber them. Only a distorted media would make it appear otherwise.
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If we outnumber them then why does the world appear to be going crazy?  Why does no one ever seem to be to account for anything?  Why are we seeing "celebrities" screaming obscenities at people, stalking them and continuing to be "celebrities"?  Why are we seeing "journalists" from the CNN or any of the other mainstream media telling blatant lies to the public, and continue to do that day after day, simply making silly comments if asked to explain themselves and claiming ridiculous scenarios to justify what they have been doing?  Why do we see politicians fawning over Islam, making "legislation" to disarm us so that we can't even defend ourselves, and not even being questioned?

If "we" did truly outnumber "them", then why do we accept substances that we have no idea what they are made up of, being forced into our childrens' bloodstreams?  Why do we stand back while our children are indoctrinated into the "gay agenda" and taught that the most important things in the world are "gender fluidity", Islam (hardly congruous with "gender fluidity" or "the gay agenda") and battling "catastrophic man-made global warming"?

OK so we might "win in the end" but how much more damage is gonna be done before we do?

(Not blaming you of course slidemansailor, just using your post to hold up my soapbox)
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Re: NZ Mass Shooting _ What Say Ye mouse?
« Reply #31 on: April 02, 2019, 07:38:01 am »

I've been reading about the "crackdown on hate speech" in UK, European countries and then America, for many years now and I realised that it was only a matter of time before NZ "caught up".  I was warned in the 1990s that, NZ, having a relatively small population, was to be "used as guinea pig by the UN for all sorts of dystopian ideas".  I was told that this was inevitable and there was not much we could do about it, but wait until these things were "on the horizon" and then try to fight them.  This was just before "the great "ID card masquerading as a driving licence" scam was launched on us.  There was only a small group of people who battled it every day until it was sneakily imposed, and our warnings to the rest of the population fell on "deaf ears".  We did manage to gain one concession though, at the time (1998/99) it was promised that the "drivers database" would never be used for anything that wasn't to do with traffic.  I was horrified to find out that in other places - America, parts of Europe (maybe more but I have no knowledge of that) the database is open to "any law enforcement agency who wants to use it" and is often shared between various government agencies.  I used to write regularly to "the transport department" (they keep changing the name) to get it in writing that the database was still to be kept private.  However, last year the answer was suddenly "people can share this database and the images when and as they want to".  So I guess even that will be changing soon.

Getting away from the point I'm afraid.  Anyway, it looks like those who have been claiming that "the Christchurch shooting is to be used to crackdown on free speech" are absolutely right, hence:

https://www.radionz.co.nz/news/national/385955/little-plans-fast-track-review-of-hate-speech-laws

And not only that but the definition of "hate speech" that I've seen is so broad that maybe calling the "prime minister" - a woman - DUMB AS A PLANK, might be considered "hate speech"

https://thestandard.org.nz/dumb-as-a-plank/
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Re: NZ Mass Shooting _ What Say Ye mouse?
« Reply #32 on: April 03, 2019, 06:33:36 pm »

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12217785

 Gang members will not be handing in their guns following the law reform announced by Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern, a Mongrel Mob leader has said.

Sonny Fatu, president of the Waikato branch of the Mongrel Mob, said that, while some members of the gang may have illegal guns, they will not be handing them in as they are necessary to their protection.

"Will gangs get rid of their weapons? No. Because of who we are, we can't guarantee our own safety," he told Stuff.

He admitted many of the gang's estimated 1000 associates hold illegal firearms but says they should be trusted not to harm innocent people.
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Re: NZ Mass Shooting _ What Say Ye mouse?
« Reply #33 on: April 03, 2019, 10:54:27 pm »

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12217785

 Gang members will not be handing in their guns following the law reform announced by Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern, a Mongrel Mob leader has said.

Sonny Fatu, president of the Waikato branch of the Mongrel Mob, said that, while some members of the gang may have illegal guns, they will not be handing them in as they are necessary to their protection.

"Will gangs get rid of their weapons? No. Because of who we are, we can't guarantee our own safety," he told Stuff.

He admitted many of the gang's estimated 1000 associates hold illegal firearms but says they should be trusted not to harm innocent people.

Yet just the opposite was recently claimed, "a government spokesperson saying":  "Gangs are on our side".  Fake news everywhere.
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Re: NZ Mass Shooting _ What Say Ye mouse?
« Reply #34 on: April 03, 2019, 11:07:57 pm »

the Rand Corporation explains, “Truth Decay is defined as a set of four related trends: increasing disagreement about facts and analytical interpretations of facts and data; a blurring of the line between opinion and fact; an increase in the relative volume, and resulting influence, of opinion and personal experience over fact; and declining trust in formerly respected sources of factual information.”
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Re: NZ Mass Shooting _ What Say Ye mouse?
« Reply #35 on: April 04, 2019, 09:10:04 pm »

the Rand Corporation explains, “Truth Decay is defined as a set of four related trends: increasing disagreement about facts and analytical interpretations of facts and data; a blurring of the line between opinion and fact; an increase in the relative volume, and resulting influence, of opinion and personal experience over fact; and declining trust in formerly respected sources of factual information.”

Thanks jamie, that is interesting. Sounds like a major outbreak of ipse dixit, which can be very contagious.
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Re: NZ Mass Shooting _ What Say Ye mouse?
« Reply #36 on: April 05, 2019, 06:30:41 am »

the Rand Corporation explains, “Truth Decay is defined as a set of four related trends: increasing disagreement about facts and analytical interpretations of facts and data; a blurring of the line between opinion and fact; an increase in the relative volume, and resulting influence, of opinion and personal experience over fact; and declining trust in formerly respected sources of factual information.”

And a large proportion of wishful thinking.  The belief that if you really, really want something to have been a certain way, then it will magically turn into having been that way all along.

This is a common belief among just about all media institutions throughout the world.
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Re: NZ Mass Shooting _ What Say Ye mouse?
« Reply #37 on: April 05, 2019, 09:35:24 pm »

I will quote the tail end of an article I posted:

Because there are also about 150M gun owners. Most of whom, proving Hemingway’s maxim, don’t have hunting licenses, because “those who have hunted armed men long enough and liked it, never care for anything else thereafter.”

“They’re coming to take your guns” won’t work, as has only been noted about a thousand times by anyone who could pass fourth grade mathematics before Common Core.

That doesn’t mean they won’t try; it just means the outcome would unravel things in about an hour, and the next election after that would find the entire Congress solid [R], if not all hardcore freedomistas rather than the usual squishy hacks, there being few surviving [D]s to run at all.

Because most of the country, like most people who read and post here, have two settings:
1) Vote
2) Fuck it, kill every last one of them.

We move to #2 slowly, but it’s nigh irrevocable once it happens, and unstoppable until we run out of targets. Which will happen long before we run out of ammunition.

This will not be the Alamo x 1000.
It will be Little Big Horn.
And this time, we get to be the Indians.

The whole thing with links to sources:
https://www.bitterrootbugle.com/2019/04/01/the-z-man/

The main point is that we outnumber them and outgun them too. 
The media and dis-education institutions are controlling the controllable, but the vast majority are quite sick of it and getting more and more ready for the TEOTWAKI show to begin. The snowflakes will melt quite quickly.

Left standing will be those built to stand for something rather than falling for anything.
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Re: NZ Mass Shooting _ What Say Ye mouse?
« Reply #38 on: April 05, 2019, 11:40:41 pm »

  Looks like we are going to find out where it is going within the next decade or sooner.   
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