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This attitude is what is wrong with society
« on: April 05, 2016, 05:15:31 pm »

What is wrong?  The attitude that this woman did anything wrong in the first place, AND the attitude of the person who called the police.  I've been reading a lot about a childhood obesity epidemic, well maybe this would go a way toward explaining the cause of that.

http://www.msn.com/en-nz/news/world/mum-charged-after-making-daughters-walk-4km-to-school/ar-BBrlNUV?ocid=spartandhp

A mother is facing child neglect charges after she allegedly forced her two daughters to walk 4km to school when they missed the morning school bus.

Tennessee, US, mum Lisa Marie Palmer, 32, was slowly driving her gold Cadillac 50M ahead of her kids as they walked with their dog in cold weather.

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Re: This attitude is what is wrong with society
« Reply #1 on: April 05, 2016, 05:38:51 pm »

most people, that grew up in the 60's, most likely walked to school.
I did, both in elementary, jr. high and high school, until I got my own car, which I had to buy on my own.
Jr. high school was the farthest from me and it was about a mile from the house.
No one said shit about kids walking to school. no matter what the weather was like, and I grew up in the Midwest, so we got rain and snow all the time.

well, lets make all kids weak pansy brats now.
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Re: This attitude is what is wrong with society
« Reply #2 on: April 05, 2016, 05:48:18 pm »

In this town, until this very year, there was no bus service for the school AT ALL.   The vast majority of kids walked, in some cases  the whole way across town.

I walked most of the time to my high school that was 4 miles from my house.
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Re: This attitude is what is wrong with society
« Reply #3 on: April 05, 2016, 07:18:48 pm »

12 city blocks is a mile +/- right?
Our high school was 28 blocks away  so ... 2 and 1/3 miles each way.
There were no special school buses.
There were city buses but they were mostly full of people going to work so it was pretty crowded.
I would get bus fare from Mom and spend it on Pall Mall cigarettes. (tuneless whistling noises ....)

Hey ! Do you suppose that is why I am so ... uhm .. nevermind.
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Re: This attitude is what is wrong with society
« Reply #4 on: April 06, 2016, 05:47:22 am »

Aside from the other obvious problems, the REAL problem is government "schools" to start with.

Wonder why mom drove the car instead of walking with them...
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Re: This attitude is what is wrong with society
« Reply #5 on: April 06, 2016, 06:48:31 am »

I imagine the person called the police because the mother was driving the car while the kids were following.  Seems odd to me.  Either walk with them or have them hop in the car.  Better yet, take this as a sign to start homeschooling!

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Re: This attitude is what is wrong with society
« Reply #6 on: April 06, 2016, 07:12:58 am »

I imagine the person called the police because the mother was driving the car while the kids were following.  Seems odd to me.  Either walk with them or have them hop in the car.  Better yet, take this as a sign to start homeschooling!

And of course the bottom line is that it is nobody else's business at all what this mother does, short of actual harm to the children. But there, naturally, is one of the roadblocks because the definition of "harm" has become so distorted and false. The mother (and father) has a moral and logical responsibility for the children, and must bear the consequences of all her (their) actions and choices, just as with everything else. Homeschooling is an excellent option, but it is not the only one.
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Re: This attitude is what is wrong with society
« Reply #7 on: April 06, 2016, 08:38:12 am »

I only walked half a mile to school, in the morning, back home for lunch, back to school after lunch, and back home at the end of the day, starting in kindergarten at the age of 5. In junior high and high school, a bus picked me up, until I got a car at the age of 16. But I walked the four miles into town and back most weekends, just for fun.
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Re: This attitude is what is wrong with society
« Reply #8 on: April 06, 2016, 11:52:18 am »

Friends,

I guess that it was a couple miles to school when I was in the 7th and 8th Grade. My mother used to drive me every morning because given my laid-back approach to things I might have gotten there in time for lunch—maybe. I used to walk home most of the time.

EE…

It has been awhile but there was a case where several older teenaged boys—alone in one of their homes—dragged the paper boy who was making collections into the house and tortured, repeatedly sodomized and then killed him.

Now when I was a boy if a parent had voiced a fear of such things happening to little Jimmy they would have thought the PARENT was a sick degenerate bastard for even thinking of such things.

This is a demanding balancing act—I would imagine—between raising over-protected hothouse children and exposing them to sick predators on the other…

But since I've never been a parent, I wouldn't care to second guess the choices that parents do make…

Well unless you're dousing little Jimmy in chum and dragging him behind the boat for shark or alligator bait…


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Re: This attitude is what is wrong with society
« Reply #9 on: April 06, 2016, 12:43:47 pm »

Yes, RVM45... it's a different world these days, for lots of reasons. When I was in 7th grade I walked eight city blocks to school and in high school, had to walk a mile just to get to the bus stop. There were a few dangers along the way, mostly loose dogs and traffic, but I had been taught self responsibility at an early age, understood both situational awareness and how to stomp on someone's instep if they got too friendly... later I learned all about the use of sudden force to kick someone's balls, or their knee... stuff like that.

One day I was walking in our neighborhood with some girlfriends and a man called us over to his car, asking for "directions." One of the girls went that way, but came back quickly saying, "EEEWWW, that ***hole has his wiener out and is playing with it!" We all ran away laughing.

Now there would be a lockdown on the whole area and a swat team looking for the ***hole. Not an improvement.
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Re: This attitude is what is wrong with society
« Reply #10 on: April 06, 2016, 05:31:32 pm »

Didn't anyone have a bike?  I rode a bike the 5 and a half miles to school.  First I had to share a bike with my sister, but that was easy as she was always too lazy to ride it more than a mile or so and she would take the bus to school or beg our mother to pick her up.  Our mother always started work about 5 in the morning so she was not there when we went to school but always was when we got home.  I got my own bike that I put together from spare parts (mainly bought from my brother who had a business in "spare parts for bikes, body shop".  I have no idea where he got the parts) when I saved enough money as I always had an "after school" job (or one that I could go to as well when I was skipping school).

The awful thing I remember about this was my mother driving right up to me when I was riding my bike, in her big van, and honking the horn, waving and yelling a greeting.  She wasn't being deliberately annoying, she just didn't think.

However, yeah, today things have changed and even though the school is only 200 yards away from here, and the kindergarten even closer, I still take them places.  My oldest grandson is nearly 8 though and rides his bike just about everywhere around here.  I wouldn't expect him to ride around the town though.  But jail for a woman who made her kids walk?  That is ludicrous.  It does seem rather odd that she drove instead of walked with them, but at least she was there, and the kids were in no danger.

(Interesting aside, I heard on the radio this morning that "more people in the world are obese than the number of people who are not obese").
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Re: This attitude is what is wrong with society
« Reply #11 on: April 06, 2016, 07:32:42 pm »


(Interesting aside, I heard on the radio this morning that "more people in the world are obese than the number of people who are not obese").
Yeah? Well according to the "official" numbers, I am obese. However.......If I were to get my weight down to the "ideal" BMI for my height, I'd have to lose about 35lbs of muscle. Not happening. My body type and extra muscle mass does not fit their mold. :rolleyes:
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« Reply #12 on: April 07, 2016, 12:34:24 pm »

Disclaimer:

I Know that I am far too heavy.

However, ever since someone noted the statistics that show that heavier people don't live as long {because the heavy half of the population includes all the obese and very obese} they have been extrapolating an ass of themselves.

Also, many non-athletic people of medium and light build seem incapable of picturing Heavy-Duty Hominids.

I cringe when I read something in fiction like:

"He was a heavily Muscled man—6'1" and 190 pounds." I even read where one dude came out of experimental rejuvenation weighing 190 and "Built like Arnold Schwarzenegger."

Maybe if he was 5' 6" he might look like a Miniature Arnold while weighing 190. Arnold weighed about 225 dieted way down to show off the musculature—probably 250-260 in the off-season—at 6' 1or 6' 2".

But few people do heavy-duty lifts or train for bodybuilding…

Nonetheless to "Greyhound" people someone with a"Bullmastiff" build are outside their Paradigm.


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Re: This attitude is what is wrong with society
« Reply #13 on: April 07, 2016, 12:52:08 pm »

I have heard that it is easier for a heavy person to put on muscle and lose fat than for a skinny person to put on muscle.
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Re: This attitude is what is wrong with society
« Reply #14 on: April 07, 2016, 02:06:25 pm »

I have heard that it is easier for a heavy person to put on muscle and lose fat than for a skinny person to put on muscle.

Lots of that has much more to do with metabolism and genetics than diet or exercise. And each individual has different mixes of these.
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