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[Elias Alias]

Thanks Bill. I'm pretty sure I can create it -- it's been a while since I did that here, but am guessing I can get through that easily enough. I'll get with ML to see what I'm prolly overlooking, soon. Tonight I'm on getting the memberships stuff organized so we can go "live".

Just tell me what you want and where. I'll take care of it. I've got a LOT more time for stuff like this than you do, Elias.

Okay, ML --
I am doing several things right now, last minute things. Bill and Cindy are straightening out the paypal BS by substituting a new payment system at the national site. I am getting rid of paypal. We will be using an alternate money-transfer system. That should "go live" sometime this week. Once that is in place for memberships, donations for the ernie movie, and the store, I will announce the site and start the email chains to let the public know we're here. I will continue to develop site content as we go, but it's now time to get some cashflow coming in.

Therefore, it's time for you and  me to talk about the private forum. I'm thinking we should do that over in the Admin section, where I'll have a couple of questions for you please. Thank you for always being on the job here. You are awesome. I'll go start a conversation with you in Admin now.

Salute!
Elias

[mi6a2lm]

Bill and Cindy are straightening out the paypal BS by substituting a new payment system at the national site. I am getting rid of paypal. We will be using an alternate money-transfer system. That should "go live" sometime this week.

Hello,
     I'm interested in your pmt/donation options and what you decide to go with.  We do have Paypal but have rarely used it (once in the last 10 years).  I use Google Wallet for internal transactions (fuel pmts) but I also do cash, check or charge.  Since it's an LLC you can also do the Square.  It's free in the sense there is no monthly pmt, just a 2.75% transaction charge.  They do need an FEIN though.  For non-point-of-sale transactions I just get an email, log in and send them an invoice - then they can complete transaction at home.  Likewise, Google Wallet pmts can be arranged with just an email - but it requires a smartphone and the app. - same with Apple Pay. 
     All of my pmt options involve some amount of 'evil' - i.e. banks, Google, taxes, ideology, State - so I suppose it depends on your level of tolerance in dealing with the State and statists.  For example, I wanted to donate to ericpetersautos.com with Google Wallet but he ended affiliation with Google (edit:  Google ended its affiliation first) ... but he does do Paypal!
     My motivation is getting $ transferred as easily as possible from as many different pmt sources as I can.

[Elias Alias]

Bill and Cindy are straightening out the paypal BS by substituting a new payment system at the national site. I am getting rid of paypal. We will be using an alternate money-transfer system. That should "go live" sometime this week.

Hello,
     I'm interested in your pmt/donation options and what you decide to go with.  We do have Paypal but have rarely used it (once in the last 10 years).  I use Google Wallet for internal transactions (fuel pmts) but I also do cash, check or charge.  Since it's an LLC you can also do the Square.  It's free in the sense there is no monthly pmt, just a 2.75% transaction charge.  They do need an FEIN though.  For non-point-of-sale transactions I just get an email, log in and send them an invoice - then they can complete transaction at home.  Likewise, Google Wallet pmts can be arranged with just an email - but it requires a smartphone and the app. - same with Apple Pay. 
     All of my pmt options involve some amount of 'evil' - i.e. banks, Google, taxes, ideology, State - so I suppose it depends on your level of tolerance in dealing with the State and statists.  For example, I wanted to donate to ericpetersautos.com with Google Wallet but he ended affiliation with Google (edit:  Google ended its affiliation first) ... but he does do Paypal!
     My motivation is getting $ transferred as easily as possible from as many different pmt sources as I can.

Thank you for asking. Right now we are trying to install Stripe as a pmt transfer service. But our site is objecting, and we need Bill to figure out what's wrong, what's causing our site to have difficulties with Stripe. Consequently, we are limited this week to snail mail only, for those who want to help us by sending checks or money orders. We will be getting rid of paypal very quickly.

Salute!
Elias

[Elias Alias]

We're Back, and Better than Ever!

Now that we have the necessary structures in place to take down TMM.com, and the yet to be unveiled TMM.net, we thought we should wait until the appropriate time.  In the meantime, it is a continuing source of amusement to follow the goings on behind the scenes. 

Some of us think no further action is warranted, because this forum is already on the skids.  It is highly doubtful it will ever regain its former glory (heh.)  The new site at TMM.net is sure to alienate, guaranteed to further discredit the liberty movement.  Do some really think people will pay $25 for that tripe?

Many members have noted the decline of this forum, commenting both publicly and privately.  As Silver said in a message to the penguinphobe, Elias has gone, and we quote, "batshit crazy."

We could go on, but you get the idea.  Things are not well here, not well at all.  We considered ending the suffering, but there are voices who say we should let it die naturally.  It would be morbid entertainment for some.

Until next time, we are Legion.

How do you mean, "Things are not well here"?

[Bill St. Clair]

Legion must be our troll, contemplating bringing us down more spectacularly than last time, which she likely knows how to do. No idea why we're worth the time, but since when did adolescents make sense?

[Elias Alias]

Legion must be our troll, contemplating bringing us down more spectacularly than last time, which she likely knows how to do. No idea why we're worth the time, but since when did adolescents make sense?

Yeah, well, I'll see you in headquarters to discuss security please.
Thanks Bill.

Salute!
Elias

[DiabloLoco]

Legion must be our troll, contemplating bringing us down more spectacularly than last time, which she likely knows how to do. No idea why we're worth the time, but since when did adolescents make sense?

I have a feeling that you were duped into thinking that it's just an adolescent girl. Why would whomever this is be using the word "we"? Seems to me that the most logical perpetrator(s) is/are disenfranchised former member(s) who failed to steer the forum into their desired direction and were run off or banned. Of course this is just my opinion.

[Bill St. Clair]

Legion must be our troll, contemplating bringing us down more spectacularly than last time, which she likely knows how to do. No idea why we're worth the time, but since when did adolescents make sense?

I have a feeling that you were duped into thinking that it's just an adolescent girl. Why would whomever this is be using the word "we"? Seems to me that the most logical perpetrator(s) is/are disenfranchised former member(s) who failed to steer the forum into their desired direction and were run off or banned. Of course this is just my opinion.

Actually, I know little about our troll, but since it represented itself as an adolescent female, I'll treat her as such for now. Either she IS one, or it's a suitable insult.

[da gooch]

Legion must be our troll, contemplating bringing us down more spectacularly than last time, which she likely knows how to do. No idea why we're worth the time, but since when did adolescents make sense?

I have a feeling that you were duped into thinking that it's just an adolescent girl. Why would whomever this is be using the word "we"? Seems to me that the most logical perpetrator(s) is/are disenfranchised former member(s) who failed to steer the forum into their desired direction and were run off or banned. Of course this is just my opinion.

Actually, I know little about our troll, but since it represented itself as an adolescent female, I'll treat her as such for now. Either she IS one, or it's a suitable insult.

Isn't "We are Legion" a direct quote from the Anonymous website?

Perhaps an adolescent female aspiring to be an Anonymous member?

[Elias Alias]

Legion must be our troll, contemplating bringing us down more spectacularly than last time, which she likely knows how to do. No idea why we're worth the time, but since when did adolescents make sense?

I have a feeling that you were duped into thinking that it's just an adolescent girl. Why would whomever this is be using the word "we"? Seems to me that the most logical perpetrator(s) is/are disenfranchised former member(s) who failed to steer the forum into their desired direction and were run off or banned. Of course this is just my opinion.

Actually, I know little about our troll, but since it represented itself as an adolescent female, I'll treat her as such for now. Either she IS one, or it's a suitable insult.

Isn't "We are Legion" a direct quote from the Anonymous website?

Perhaps an adolescent female aspiring to be an Anonymous member?

Whatever it is, it's got notions of grandiosity. As we well know, this forum is completely harmonious with Anonymous and Anonymous would never attack us, but instead would most likely support us. So this troll is "borrowing" the mythology of Anonymous to suit its own inferiority complex.

Salute!
Elias

[Tahn L.]

Just a thought.

If is not Anonymous and I have no reason to imagine that it is, then it is somebody trying to impersonate Anonymous and somehow I don’t think that they (Anonymous) would like that. Let’s ask Anonymous, with their abilities and contacts, to search out and discover the culprit or culprits and expose them for what they are, internet terrorists.

Now, does anyone have a big searchlight that can shine a big “A” into the sky and call for help?
 

[MamaLiberty]

Let’s ask Anonymous, with their abilities and contacts, to search out and discover the culprit or culprits and expose them for what they are, internet terrorists.

What a marvelous idea!!  Can you research that and see if you can find a valid contact address for them? That would be such a big help.

The only time I saw a flashlight that big was at a UFO convention in the Mojave desert many years ago. Took two people to hold it! LOL

[Elias Alias]

I'll send up some smoke signals.



Salute!

[dtc]

Are you guys still out there? Lol

[MamaLiberty]

Are you guys still out there? Lol

I'm sure they are... but here at the TMM forum, they seem to be keeping very, very quiet.

Welcome, and I hope you will explore the forum and join in.