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How to increase public approval for the police state
« on: December 02, 2014, 04:07:52 am »

This is an excellent article.  Sums up what I have been thinking perfectly.  The more I read about the "Fergusson incident", the more I am convinced that it is all orchestrated to the advantage of the PTB.  I mean, they didn't seem to create the situation in the first place but they certainly encouraged the "public anger".  There have been so many totally outrageous cases nationwide of police killing unarmed people - even for no apparent reason and certainly nothing that they can even claim was a "threat to their lives", yet this particular case has been picked when it leaves itself open to so much debate and questions as to what did actually happen.

And recently I have been reading about the police refusing to intervene in atrocities in Fergusson and recently even a cases of manipulating things so firefighters cannot prevent businesses being destroyed.

If people really wanted to go "rioting" in the streets they could read this board and pick any one of the cases of "police abuses", and riot about that.  Yet ....

http://www.informationliberation.com/?id=48878

If someone were to design an event to bolster public support for a militarized police state, what would that event look like? Let us imagine:

• The event involves a controversial use of force by police.  The event generates a national controversy and debate — a debate which the government has sufficient evidence to win in the end.  After facing criticism, the police demonstrate to the country that they were right and opponents were wrong.

•The “victim” is as unsympathetic as possible; a suspect fleeing from an assault and robbery that took place on camera.

•All the physical evidence supports the official version of events — illustrating how witnesses lie to condemn innocent cops.

•Protests emerge and come off as unlikeable as possible, leaving a trail of theft, violence, arson, and destruction.

•The media ends its silence on police brutality long enough to repetitively lionize the police and decry the actions of the deceased suspect and his violent supporters.  The media intensely focuses on the wanton violence and the danger of public protests.  Every statist pundit in the country chimes in, reiterating the righteousness of the police and the wrongness those who oppose them.

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Re: How to increase public approval for the police state
« Reply #1 on: December 02, 2014, 07:35:47 am »

Hmmmm

not all police get away with it.
while the BS was going on in Fergusson, right next door in St. Louis was a shooting of a white man by a black cop, and that cop was charged in the shooting.
Why him and not the other?
could it have something to do with race too?

hmmmmm
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Re: How to increase public approval for the police state
« Reply #2 on: December 02, 2014, 04:04:19 pm »

Hmmmm

not all police get away with it.
while the BS was going on in Fergusson, right next door in St. Louis was a shooting of a white man by a black cop, and that cop was charged in the shooting.
Why him and not the other?
could it have something to do with race too?

hmmmmm
Not likely.
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Re: How to increase public approval for the police state
« Reply #3 on: December 02, 2014, 05:38:20 pm »

Hmmmm

not all police get away with it.
while the BS was going on in Fergusson, right next door in St. Louis was a shooting of a white man by a black cop, and that cop was charged in the shooting.
Why him and not the other?
could it have something to do with race too?

hmmmmm
Not likely.

your right, because here in the USA, everyone is treated fairly, and with respect. 
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Re: How to increase public approval for the police state
« Reply #4 on: December 02, 2014, 07:05:43 pm »

Hmmmm

not all police get away with it.
while the BS was going on in Fergusson, right next door in St. Louis was a shooting of a white man by a black cop, and that cop was charged in the shooting.
Why him and not the other?
could it have something to do with race too?

hmmmmm
Not likely.

your right, because here in the USA, everyone is treated fairly, and with respect.
Ummmm....You forgot to add ;p
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Re: How to increase public approval for the police state
« Reply #5 on: December 02, 2014, 11:56:42 pm »

Hmmmm

not all police get away with it.
while the BS was going on in Fergusson, right next door in St. Louis was a shooting of a white man by a black cop, and that cop was charged in the shooting.
Why him and not the other?
could it have something to do with race too?

hmmmmm
Not likely.

your right, because here in the USA, everyone is treated fairly, and with respect.
Ummmm....You forgot to add ;p

really?
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Re: How to increase public approval for the police state
« Reply #6 on: December 03, 2014, 03:21:31 am »

I am really amazed, flabbergasted in fact.  Some of you still think this is all about racism, nothing at all to do with the fact that this has all been orchestrated and people are being manipulated.  I remember not too long ago, on these boards, someone (can't remember who now, sorry) predicted that there would be a "race war".  Well, it looks like the PTB have been working on these things for some time and the outcome has been exactly what was predicted, and many, many people have fallen for it.  What better distraction then to have the American population at each others' throats all the time?  While black teenagers are busy screaming for the blood of white people, and then attacking white people and white people are attacking and killing them (I presume, anyway) they cannot be decrying and attacking police and politicians.  And it does seem that TBTB are doing everything they can to "pour petrol on the fire".

This all reminds me of Zimbabwe in the 1990s when black on white/white on black atrocities were occurring and police and politicians in that country "turned a blind eye" only then they at least had the excuse that a lot of other countries were "calling for the blood" of white Zimbabweans also and they were only appeasing them.  There is no such "outside force" in Missouri, only the feds.

I will post the following two headlines to illustrate what I am saying.  They are just two that I found totally randomly when I put "MO riots" into the search engine.

http://revolutionradio.org/?p=88534

Police Blame Zemir Begic For His Own Murder by Hammer-Wielding Teens

St. Louis, Mo., police have effectively blamed murder victim Zemir Begic for being at the “wrong place” at the “wrong time” when teenagers attacked him with hammers after shouting “kill the white people.”

Begic, 32, was beaten to death not far from the Ferguson riots Sunday morning by a gang of teenagers who’d been running up and down the street shouting “f*** the white people, kill the white people,” according to an eyewitness, but officials are claiming the murder wasn’t racially motivated.
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Or http://www.westernjournalism.com/black-teens-kill-white-baby-media-silent/

Black Teens Kill White Baby; Media Silent



Take a minute and try to imagine what would happen in this country if the following scenario had taken place:
 
A report describes how in broad daylight two white teenage boys tried to rob a black Brunswick, Georgia woman at gunpoint as she was peacefully pushing her 13 month old son in his stroller. When she resisted, pleading “I don’t have any money,” they callously shot and killed the baby.

The gun did not “go off by accident.” The white thug meant to shoot the black woman and did just that, hitting her twice, THEN turned the gun on the baby. A white thug calmly walked over to the stroller and shot the innocent black baby in the face.

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How can these things, and the way people are obviously going to react to them, not be good for police?  People will be lining up after this, screaming for police to come and lead them to safety and those same people will be willing to have any amount of surveillance cameras installed in their neighbourhoods and any amount of police cruising around, accusing people at random of "breaking the law", kidnapping them and torturing them all with a collective shout of approval from the people.

It seems that "rioting against the police" was something that was going to happen somewhere in America, it was only a matter of time.  Now I am really wondering, in fact I'm really, really puzzled as to why, this particular incident was the catalyst and not any of the other incidences of police abuses that occur every day, you only need to look down this page to see a few hundred and there must be many thousands that have been missed here.  Any one of those seems to me that it would be a far better catalyst than the Fergusson incident.

Well that's the way I see it anyway.
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Re: How to increase public approval for the police state
« Reply #7 on: December 03, 2014, 05:27:42 am »

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I'm really, really puzzled as to why, this particular incident was the catalyst and not any of the other incidences of police abuses that occur every day

Indeed, I've been saying that for quite a while. I read something the other day that talked about this and gave at least a partial answer, but can't remember the title. I'll look and see if I can find it.
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Re: How to increase public approval for the police state
« Reply #8 on: December 09, 2014, 07:18:27 pm »

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http://revolutionradio.org/?p=88534

Police Blame Zemir Begic For His Own Murder by Hammer-Wielding Teens

St. Louis, Mo., police have effectively blamed murder victim Zemir Begic for being at the “wrong place” at the “wrong time” when teenagers attacked him with hammers after shouting “kill the white people.”

Begic, 32, was beaten to death not far from the Ferguson riots Sunday morning by a gang of teenagers who’d been running up and down the street shouting “f*** the white people, kill the white people,” according to an eyewitness, but officials are claiming the murder wasn’t racially motivated.
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Well this is a turn around:

http://beforeitsnews.com/alternative/2014/12/cops-now-scream-hate-crime-in-black-on-white-beating-3074974.html

Authorities in St. Louis now are saying they are investigating as a possible hate crime an attack that happened only miles from the Ferguson, Missouri, streets where violence has run rampant in the weeks and months since a white police officer shot and killed black, 290-pound teenager Michael Brown, who had tried to get the officer’s gun and apparently was in the act of charging at the officer.

WND had reported earlier on the hammer-beating death of Zemir Begic, 32, but police said at the time they were not viewing the situation as a hate crime, even though the head of the city’s Bosnian Chamber of Commerce, Sadik Kukic, told WND the community members have more than a little suspicion.

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Maybe this is what Obama meant by his comments, he meant that young people should randomly kill, to "banish deeply rooted racism".

http://www.france24.com/en/20141209-video-obama-urges-persistence-fighting-us-racism/

US President Barack Obama said banishing “deeply rooted” racism in the United States can only happen incrementally, and urged young people to "be persistent" in fighting prejudice.

He was speaking as protests continue in cities across the United States, where thousands have gathered over the past two weeks to condemn a spate of killings of black suspects by white police.
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Re: How to increase public approval for the police state
« Reply #9 on: December 09, 2014, 09:52:51 pm »

I have seen some reports of outsiders in Fergusen coming in by bus to stir things up........  I am not the least bit surprised that this is another exploited oppotunity at the very least.  The black race baiting is the easiest to do because of such a high unemployment rate.......you can fins a lot of takers on the opportunity to vent (and further a stereotype)who are sitting around bored with the woman and kids supported by the state.......

I continue to make and just plans and lists and move other opportunities around according to circumstance. 
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Re: How to increase public approval for the police state
« Reply #10 on: January 06, 2015, 04:03:37 pm »

mouse, that might have been me.  Or at least on another forum.  at 1000+ posts, I'm not going to bother searching through them to find it or elsewhere. 

However, check out the article.  If the "teenagers" had been white beating a black woman the news would have reported "belligerent white males bludgeon unarmed african american (its never black, yo!) man to death."  Since its blacks, its "teenagers" without any race.  The fact that the color of the perpetrators is MISSING when newsreporters are otherwise so keen on jamming as many adjectives in as the column permits... makes this "omission" very glaringly visible... and typical.
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Re: How to increase public approval for the police state
« Reply #11 on: January 07, 2015, 04:39:00 am »

mouse, that might have been me.  Or at least on another forum.  at 1000+ posts, I'm not going to bother searching through them to find it or elsewhere. 

However, check out the article.  If the "teenagers" had been white beating a black woman the news would have reported "belligerent white males bludgeon unarmed african american (its never black, yo!) man to death."  Since its blacks, its "teenagers" without any race.  The fact that the color of the perpetrators is MISSING when newsreporters are otherwise so keen on jamming as many adjectives in as the column permits... makes this "omission" very glaringly visible... and typical.

Perfect!  Doesn't that just go to prove my point?  The PTB have deliberately created this situation, and carefully manipulated the reporting of it, just to put "the cat among the pigeons" and have commenters pointing out things like "but if the situation were reversed ..... etc. "  and completely forgetting that a horrible crime has been committed and the police were nowhere to be seen but turned up when it was far too late, but not too late to find out what happened.

This all goes to take the "heat" off the feds/TPTB/police/FBI/any gov't agency/whatever and have people totally focused on "the RACE WAR" and any anger that they feel is instead directed to black teenagers/white teenagers/Al Sharpton/the leader of the KKK/black activists/white activists/whatever.

Actually, Destin, I think it WAS you who said about the coming race war, a couple of years ago now I think.  Well, here it is now, the PTB have handed it to America on a plate and they are away laughing, rubbing their hands together (think "Mr Burns" from the Simpsons" or maybe "Boss Hogg" from "the Dukes of Hazard") chuckling about "the fools, the fools, now they will be screaming "we need peace and safety, WE NEED THE POLICE!"

I am starting to see that comment at the bottom of articles already, peoples' attitudes have changed dramatically all of a sudden.  Now a lot of them, most of them in some cases, want the police to come in and "crush" rioters and "law breakers" and talk of "we shouldn't have this lawlessness" and "the police need more power and more resources and do a good job, a dangerous job, that not many of us would do, so  let's appreciate them" (that last comment is a direct quote from an article about  "tourism in America", but before this you just wouldn't have got someone saying that even referring to police providing security for a tourist venue,  because if it is true for that, it is true of anything that they do.
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Re: How to increase public approval for the police state
« Reply #12 on: January 07, 2015, 12:24:38 pm »

Mouse

With the police now beating, choking, shooting people to dead.
what ever they had planned to do has backfired on them.
people are not taking it any more, from the police, and they know it.

A lot of the riots and such you see are people lashing out against the PTB, but they do not have a clue who that is, so they just pick some hapless sap to pick on.
but more and more people are seeing who it is and are taking it out on them.
Why do you think the police are pulling back now?
They have hit their first brick wall. it is time to let things cool down before they try to break through that wall, but they will, some day, and then they will start again.
 
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Re: How to increase public approval for the police state
« Reply #13 on: January 07, 2015, 01:23:15 pm »

Mouse

With the police now beating, choking, shooting people to dead.
what ever they had planned to do has backfired on them.
people are not taking it any more, from the police, and they know it.

A lot of the riots and such you see are people lashing out against the PTB, but they do not have a clue who that is, so they just pick some hapless sap to pick on.
but more and more people are seeing who it is and are taking it out on them.
Why do you think the police are pulling back now?
They have hit their first brick wall. it is time to let things cool down before they try to break through that wall, but they will, some day, and then they will start again.
Yeah. Hacking at branches because they cannot fathom the root. Willfully ignorant. Just how TPTB like it!
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Re: How to increase public approval for the police state
« Reply #14 on: January 07, 2015, 03:21:56 pm »

Just remember that when I made that remark, unlike certain "stormfront" or "neo nazi" type people out there, I also very strictly mentioned that the race war is going to be as bullshit as the war between the young pissed off at being sold down river and paying to maintain old folks, and the old, who want what is "due" to them after a lifetime of government obeisance.

So to put it in a short line... the race war will be a bait and switch in typically successful machiavellian fashion.
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