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[sovereignbastard]

Patton Oswalt sums it up much better... CLEAN FILTH

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbALbZ9bHFU

[Klapton Isgod]

I was just reminded of the line from PG-13 Guardians of the Galaxy:  "If I had a black light, it would look like a Jackson Pollack painting in here."

[DiabloLoco]

Cussing with "kiddie" words does not change the intention. When Sarah Palin starts up with the oh geez shimmy bangs, or whatever, how is that any better than an oh shit ? It's all about Intention, not the actual words. I am going to DONK your daughter, is that better ? I am gonna wiffle bat your muffled slop hole ? Someone drops a brick on their foot and they scream snickers, that might be the person in the crowd you would want to watch a little more closely than the rest perhaps ?

+1 

[Moonbeam]

Cussing with "kiddie" words does not change the intention. ...It's all about Intention, not the actual words.

If I stub my toe in front of the kids, I would say, "Oh sugar plum fairy!" I would most likely say it when they're weren't around either, because I find creative words amusing. However, there is no substitute for "bad" words sometimes. When I was stung by a wasp last fall I said, "shit" over and over for about 20 seconds - in front of all my kiddos. They weren't focused on the word I was saying, they were focused on my obvious pain. (Besides they're pretty unaware of what "bad" words are.)

If I were in a super-heated argument with my spouse I might call him a f*cking *sshole in the heat of the moment. Calling him a "bunny foo-foo" would not have the same affect would it?

As for intention, perhaps it's a case-by-case basis. In the wasp scenario, I wasn't trying to hurt or aggravate anyone. I wasn't trying to be shocking and I wasn't mad at any person. However, if I were to call my husband a "bad" name, that would be intentional to hurt him and/or let him know just how displeased I was.

Someone drops a brick on their foot and they scream snickers, that might be the person in the crowd you would want to watch a little more closely than the rest perhaps ?

Not for me - I appreciate creativity!

[sovereignbastard]

We have no control over how other people are gonna react to our words no matter our intention. I consider bunny foo foo exactly the same as oh shit. But that's just one humans take out of billions. Steak and potatoes, steak and potatoes !

[Moonbeam]

We have no control over how other people are gonna react to our words no matter our intention.

You are so right!

This reminds of me of something that happened along this vein a couple of years ago. I was about four months into my pregnancy with my third child and it was not a pleasant experience (and actually got worse!). I was stopped by a woman I casually know and she asked how I had been. I told her about the pregnancy and when she asked how that was going, I replied,"Ugh. It's been hellish!" The look on her face was priceless! I wasn't trying to be shocking or bold or whatever. I was just being - truthful. And I personally didn't see anything *wrong* with my choice of word. So yeah, some folks are a bit squeamish about um, certain words.

[Adventurer, Explorer, Inquiring Mind.]

Although I don't think I was ever a potty mouth (I curse for emphasis though) my partners at work are pretty mild-mannered. They never asked me to not curse around them. I don't curse around them because I care about them and do not want to make them uncomfortable; it's my choice, however. And when somebody comes into our area cursing indiscriminately it sounds kind of ugly. English is probably the richest language on the planet; I have begun to think of people that curse constantly as being impoverished.

Hah, actually, cursing can be a picked up habit.  Usually for punctuation or accentuation.  In a british fashion really.

As for English being a rich language, it sure is, so are many others.  The problem is, most english speakers you and I will ever meet will not know half the words we do.  Because we've got lib'rul 'cawladge educayshunz, yo.


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@Moonbeam about DeNiro.  You know that makes you a hypocrite, right?  Do you make any exceptions for Magnum P.I.'s manly demeanor and stache?

Wow, you hang out with people so thin skinned that "hellish" offends them?!?!?!?!?!
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Also, to all, you may have noticed that there is a huge difference between "fuck this" and "fuck you."

The first is addressed at the situation and only a controlling numskull would get offended.  The second gets a punch in the face.

Or kicked out of my establishment for verbal assault. 

[Baked at 420]

I told someone they should feed their naughty little fucker to Krampus today, so I don't think I can complain about impolite speech...

[da gooch]

Up until about 8 or 9 months ago I worked on the night shift with seven male co-workers and only saw women at breaks.  I had for the last 10 years.  On the first "day" I realised that five of the seven were hardened swearers who seemed to be unable to complete a sentence without at least three swearwords.  the boss was particularly bad and used the "f-word" as part of normal speech, not even to "emphasise" anything (you know:  "I'm going to f...ing smoko now, tomorrow I have to take my f...ing car in for an f..ing service").  After that I just said to all of them that I didn't like it and would they please clean up their language when I was around.

It worked perfectly and they all ceased swearing, even around the other two guys who didn't swear themselves.  (OK, one didn't swear because he was Brazilian and didn't know enough English to swear, but somehow I don't see him as a swearer anyway).  The other non-swearer said he was "greatly relieved" as he also didn't like swearing but had not wanted to say anything in case they accused him of being a "sissy" or something, but it is somehow acceptable for a woman to object.

I don't suppose that you see the irony in your demanding that they "clean up their language when I was around"?

Let's suppose that another person comes into the work force and asks that everyone "Please do not use the word  it, it's or its when the subject or object already has a correct name."

How is that different from your demanding that everyone else adapt to your standards rather than you either adapting to the standard in use or leaving that work space and requesting a change of work space from your employer?
How does that differ from imposing your form of tyranny as opposed to the tyranny of the government? (spit)

There is no One Correct Way in anything in which humans are involved.
Even NAP/ZAP must be voluntary or it is just another form of aggression.

[DiabloLoco]

Up until about 8 or 9 months ago I worked on the night shift with seven male co-workers and only saw women at breaks.  I had for the last 10 years.  On the first "day" I realised that five of the seven were hardened swearers who seemed to be unable to complete a sentence without at least three swearwords.  the boss was particularly bad and used the "f-word" as part of normal speech, not even to "emphasise" anything (you know:  "I'm going to f...ing smoko now, tomorrow I have to take my f...ing car in for an f..ing service").  After that I just said to all of them that I didn't like it and would they please clean up their language when I was around.

It worked perfectly and they all ceased swearing, even around the other two guys who didn't swear themselves.  (OK, one didn't swear because he was Brazilian and didn't know enough English to swear, but somehow I don't see him as a swearer anyway).  The other non-swearer said he was "greatly relieved" as he also didn't like swearing but had not wanted to say anything in case they accused him of being a "sissy" or something, but it is somehow acceptable for a woman to object.

I don't suppose that you see the irony in your demanding that they "clean up their language when I was around"?

Let's suppose that another person comes into the work force and asks that everyone "Please do not use the word  it, it's or its when the subject or object already has a correct name."

How is that different from your demanding that everyone else adapt to your standards rather than you either adapting to the standard in use or leaving that work space and requesting a change of work space from your employer?
How does that differ from imposing your form of tyranny as opposed to the tyranny of the government? (spit)

There is no One Correct Way in anything in which humans are involved.
Even NAP/ZAP must be voluntary or it is just another form of aggression.

Nothing to add. Just wanted to say nice post gooch!

[FDD]

Up until about 8 or 9 months ago I worked on the night shift with seven male co-workers and only saw women at breaks.  I had for the last 10 years.  On the first "day" I realised that five of the seven were hardened swearers who seemed to be unable to complete a sentence without at least three swearwords.  the boss was particularly bad and used the "f-word" as part of normal speech, not even to "emphasise" anything (you know:  "I'm going to f...ing smoko now, tomorrow I have to take my f...ing car in for an f..ing service").  After that I just said to all of them that I didn't like it and would they please clean up their language when I was around.

It worked perfectly and they all ceased swearing, even around the other two guys who didn't swear themselves.  (OK, one didn't swear because he was Brazilian and didn't know enough English to swear, but somehow I don't see him as a swearer anyway).  The other non-swearer said he was "greatly relieved" as he also didn't like swearing but had not wanted to say anything in case they accused him of being a "sissy" or something, but it is somehow acceptable for a woman to object.

I don't suppose that you see the irony in your demanding that they "clean up their language when I was around"?

Let's suppose that another person comes into the work force and asks that everyone "Please do not use the word  it, it's or its when the subject or object already has a correct name."

How is that different from your demanding that everyone else adapt to your standards rather than you either adapting to the standard in use or leaving that work space and requesting a change of work space from your employer?
How does that differ from imposing your form of tyranny as opposed to the tyranny of the government? (spit)

There is no One Correct Way in anything in which humans are involved.
Even NAP/ZAP must be voluntary or it is just another form of aggression.

AMEN Brother

[Moonbeam]

Up until about 8 or 9 months ago I worked on the night shift with seven male co-workers and only saw women at breaks.  I had for the last 10 years.  On the first "day" I realised that five of the seven were hardened swearers who seemed to be unable to complete a sentence without at least three swearwords.  the boss was particularly bad and used the "f-word" as part of normal speech, not even to "emphasise" anything (you know:  "I'm going to f...ing smoko now, tomorrow I have to take my f...ing car in for an f..ing service").  After that I just said to all of them that I didn't like it and would they please clean up their language when I was around.

It worked perfectly and they all ceased swearing, even around the other two guys who didn't swear themselves.  (OK, one didn't swear because he was Brazilian and didn't know enough English to swear, but somehow I don't see him as a swearer anyway).  The other non-swearer said he was "greatly relieved" as he also didn't like swearing but had not wanted to say anything in case they accused him of being a "sissy" or something, but it is somehow acceptable for a woman to object.

I don't suppose that you see the irony in your demanding that they "clean up their language when I was around"?

Let's suppose that another person comes into the work force and asks that everyone "Please do not use the word  it, it's or its when the subject or object already has a correct name."

How is that different from your demanding that everyone else adapt to your standards rather than you either adapting to the standard in use or leaving that work space and requesting a change of work space from your employer?
How does that differ from imposing your form of tyranny as opposed to the tyranny of the government? (spit)

There is no One Correct Way in anything in which humans are involved.
Even NAP/ZAP must be voluntary or it is just another form of aggression.

That's not the impression I got from her post --at all. I am surprised that you equate her politeness by asking (not demanding) with tyranny! I see nothing unreasonable asking someone to "clean up their language." I suppose MamaLiberty's recent request to S. Jester to refrain from using the "f-bomb" in his post qualifies her as being "demanding" and "tyrannical," too? [Regardless of the TOG.] I agree with you that MOUSE could have ignored the bad language or reported it or asked to be removed or she could have quit her job. However, I do not agree that merely asking someone to temporarily refrain from certain behavior would be on par with tyranny (her form or otherwise). I might be missing your point here, but I just don't see what's so offensive about the act of asking?

[Tahn L.]

Moonbeam,  I certainly agree that it is OK to ask someone to refrain from certain language, whether from using a G--Damn or the f bomb.

When I was young and stupid(er), I acquired the phrase "Miss on you pister, you're not so mucking futch". I soon learned, after a brief encounter in a bar, that it wasn't the actual words that caused harm (to myself that time)  but the intent.

Now, I try to refrain from any insults but the PC crowd keeps changing the rules and I have pretty much given up on them. EVERYTHING insults them.

[Klapton Isgod]

So, I've been watching some of these Netflix Original series...  They have a lot of gratuitous sex in them.  And I'm a guy who likes pr0n.  I don't watch TV for that sort of thing.  I want to be told a story, and it just distracts from it.

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[Baked at 420]

So, I've been watching some of these Netflix Original series...  They have a lot of gratuitous sex in them.  And I'm a guy who likes pr0n.  I don't watch TV for that sort of thing.  I want to be told a story, and it just distracts from it.

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Marco Polo has a lot of that.