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S. Jester

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TV gone to Pot?
« on: September 22, 2014, 12:15:56 pm »

Here's a TV reporter that actually owned a Medical Cannabis Business and is quitting to lobbying for legalization.

http://www.mediabistro.com/tvnewser/alaska-tv-reporter-quits-on-air-fk-it-i-quit_b239657

But such dirty language on the air! What about the kids?   :thumbsup:


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Re: TV gone to Pot?
« Reply #1 on: September 22, 2014, 01:15:20 pm »

Yeah, that was great.
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Re: TV gone to Pot?
« Reply #2 on: April 01, 2015, 05:23:49 am »

Been thinking about this for a while and I concluded that I should leave it alone in case I said something that might offend someone, but it seems to me I'm being dishonest and disingenuous by not saying what I think.

This would have been great, and I certainly agree with her sentiments, she did everything perfectly and got her point across, BUT with her using an obscenity like that totally negated any good in what she had to say.  When people use obscenities when trying to make their point I often think that what they have to say can't be that important to them if they have to resort to using profanity to make people listen to them.

Likewise, no matter how good a film seems to be and how many good reviews it has had, if obscenities are used by the actors throughout the film, or even only one in the film, I often think "there can't really be must artistic merit in the film if they have to resort to 'shock tactics', even if the producer thinks, usually erroneously, that it is just 'realism'".

Now having said that I wish the woman luck with her business.  And hope it helps with the legalisation of marijuana in Alaska.
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Re: TV gone to Pot?
« Reply #3 on: April 01, 2015, 05:39:25 am »

Been thinking about this for a while and I concluded that I should leave it alone in case I said something that might offend someone, but it seems to me I'm being dishonest and disingenuous by not saying what I think.

This would have been great, and I certainly agree with her sentiments, she did everything perfectly and got her point across, BUT with her using an obscenity like that totally negated any good in what she had to say.  When people use obscenities when trying to make their point I often think that what they have to say can't be that important to them if they have to resort to using profanity to make people listen to them.

Likewise, no matter how good a film seems to be and how many good reviews it has had, if obscenities are used by the actors throughout the film, or even only one in the film, I often think "there can't really be must artistic merit in the film if they have to resort to 'shock tactics', even if the producer thinks, usually erroneously, that it is just 'realism'".

Now having said that I wish the woman luck with her business.  And hope it helps with the legalisation of marijuana in Alaska.
So called "obscenities" are just words. Nothing more. There is no special power invoked when a person speaks them. In fact, the work fuck is probably the most versatile word in the English lexicon. It can be a noun, verb, adjective, adverb....pretty much anything! If "bad words" turn you off THAT MUCH, then you must be an old fuddy duddy. :laugh: They are just words.
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Re: TV gone to Pot?
« Reply #4 on: April 01, 2015, 06:09:04 am »

If "bad words" turn you off THAT MUCH, then you must be an old fuddy duddy. :laugh: They are just words.

Words have meaning. People can obviously use any words they wish, and I can just as obviously not listen to them. I'm with mouse this far... if people can't talk without interjecting filth into each phrase, they don't have anything to say I want to hear... so I don't listen to them - whether it is in person, a movie or a book. My choice... The English language is quite versatile enough without such drivel.

So, if that makes me an old "fuddy duddy," that's fine with me.
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Re: TV gone to Pot?
« Reply #5 on: April 01, 2015, 01:00:58 pm »

Geroge Carlin.... 7 dirty words....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vbZhpf3sQxQ
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Re: TV gone to Pot?
« Reply #6 on: April 01, 2015, 02:20:47 pm »

Likewise, no matter how good a film seems to be ... if obscenities are used by the actors throughout the film ... I often think "there can't really be must artistic merit in the film if they have to resort to 'shock tactics', even if the producer thinks, usually erroneously, that it is just 'realism'".

I agree with that, Mouse with one exception*. So many films/TV shows could be elevated to great/awesome, but instead the gratuitous use of "bad language" keeps it bogged down in the sewer. I don't mind an "F-bomb" here and there - but geez Louise, sometimes it reaches insane levels.

* (For whatever reason...) I make "bad language" allowance for Robert De Niro :)
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Re: TV gone to Pot?
« Reply #7 on: April 01, 2015, 04:32:55 pm »

If "bad words" turn you off THAT MUCH, then you must be an old fuddy duddy. :laugh: They are just words.

Words have meaning. People can obviously use any words they wish, and I can just as obviously not listen to them. I'm with mouse this far... if people can't talk without interjecting filth into each phrase, they don't have anything to say I want to hear... so I don't listen to them - whether it is in person, a movie or a book. My choice... The English language is quite versatile enough without such drivel.

So, if that makes me an old "fuddy duddy," that's fine with me.
Never venture onto a construction site then! :laugh: I have a completely different vocabulary while working than I do at home or even online. Sailors got nuthin' on me! :icon_pirat:
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Re: TV gone to Pot?
« Reply #8 on: April 01, 2015, 04:38:45 pm »

Never venture onto a construction site then! :laugh: I have a completely different vocabulary while working than I do at home or even online. Sailors got nuthin' on me! :icon_pirat:

My first husband was a mechanic, and I spent a lot of time at the garage and service stations where he worked. I don't ever remember hearing any of the men there swear, but that was 50 years ago of course. Both of my sons are doing construction work of all kinds. Neither one of them would dream of using foul language in my hearing. I was married to a sailor... and never heard a bad word from him either. If men (or women) want to talk that way, it's no skin off my nose. I just have zero interest in hearing it. I don't insist they stop swearing, unless they actually want to talk to me.
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Re: TV gone to Pot?
« Reply #9 on: April 07, 2015, 08:46:53 pm »

Although I don't think I was ever a potty mouth (I curse for emphasis though) my partners at work are pretty mild-mannered. They never asked me to not curse around them. I don't curse around them because I care about them and do not want to make them uncomfortable; it's my choice, however. And when somebody comes into our area cursing indiscriminately it sounds kind of ugly. English is probably the richest language on the planet; I have begun to think of people that curse constantly as being impoverished.
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Re: TV gone to Pot?
« Reply #10 on: April 08, 2015, 04:49:54 am »

Up until about 8 or 9 months ago I worked on the night shift with seven male co-workers and only saw women at breaks.  I had for the last 10 years.  On the first "day" I realised that five of the seven were hardened swearers who seemed to be unable to complete a sentence without at least three swearwords.  the boss was particularly bad and used the "f-word" as part of normal speech, not even to "emphasise" anything (you know:  "I'm going to f...ing smoko now, tomorrow I have to take my f...ing car in for an f..ing service").  After that I just said to all of them that I didn't like it and would they please clean up their language when I was around.

It worked perfectly and they all ceased swearing, even around the other two guys who didn't swear themselves.  (OK, one didn't swear because he was Brazilian and didn't know enough English to swear, but somehow I don't see him as a swearer anyway).  The other non-swearer said he was "greatly relieved" as he also didn't like swearing but had not wanted to say anything in case they accused him of being a "sissy" or something, but it is somehow acceptable for a woman to object.
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Re: TV gone to Pot?
« Reply #11 on: April 08, 2015, 06:11:12 am »

 :rolleyes: They are just words.  :wacko:
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Re: TV gone to Pot?
« Reply #12 on: April 09, 2015, 01:52:48 pm »

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They are just words.

Are they though?

In the sense of, “what makes a word a ‘bad’ word,” why is that we use the common known cuss words and not say, “pinwheel,” or “cobbler,” or “wax paper,” or “unicorn breath?” Oh I understand there is a story behind the “f word” and the “s word,” for example. But, throughout history insults and “bad” words have changed. So on one hand I do understand how one might conclude, “they’re just words.”

On the other hand, words have context. We string a few words together to form a sentence. String a few sentences together and a mental picture can be constructed. Words can birth and nurture ideas. Words can inflame and words can comfort.

One can use words to lie and sabotage, even bring about murder. One can use words to express loyalty and love, and words perhaps even heal.

What gives a word special meaning? And who assigns a word special meaning: the one speaking them or the one listening to them; the one writing them, or the one reading them?

We lend voice fluctuation to our spoken words. Words can drip with sarcasm, disdain, cruelty. Words can ooze lust, jealousy, or ardor. We use words, specific words, to emphasize our anger, our displeasure, our sadness, our regret, our admiration, our love.

Energetic folks and shy folks use words differently. Children and adults use words differently. Men and women use words differently. Cultures and nationalities use words differently. We speak differently in turn to our children, to our spouse, to our neighbors, to our friends, to our extended family, to our coworkers, to total strangers.

Is it that words themselves have power, or do the words become powerful because of how someone wields them?

Are words, “just words?” I don’t think so. I think they have meaning, have purpose. If the eyes are the windows to our souls, then words are the mirrors to our hearts.
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Re: TV gone to Pot?
« Reply #13 on: April 15, 2015, 06:31:08 am »

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They are just words.

Are they though?

In the sense of, “what makes a word a ‘bad’ word,” why is that we use the common known cuss words and not say, “pinwheel,” or “cobbler,”

I guess this proves your point about "cultures and nationalities use words differently".  "Cobbler" (or "cobblers"), oh the irony!  Yep, that's one of "them words that are not good to say".

The kids watch a cartoon where the characters say "oh tail feathers" ("Sheriff Kallie"), I think that's brilliant.  And another cartoon has the characters saying "oh hamburgers".  My daughter taught the kids to "cuss" with "oh chicken nuggets", there are alternatives.


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Re: TV gone to Pot?
« Reply #14 on: April 15, 2015, 02:22:21 pm »

Cussing with "kiddie" words does not change the intention. When Sarah Palin starts up with the oh geez shimmy bangs, or whatever, how is that any better than an oh shit ? It's all about Intention, not the actual words. I am going to DONK your daughter, is that better ? I am gonna wiffle bat your muffled slop hole ? Someone drops a brick on their foot and they scream snickers, that might be the person in the crowd you would want to watch a little more closely than the rest perhaps ?
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