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[ZooT_aLLures]

but the attitude and beliefs have to change first.

Yeah with the biggest belief being that's it's "government money" that just magically springs from the ground rather than money stolen from other people.
Which of course points to the attitude, which is that as long as "I" didn't personally steal the money then it's alright to take the money.

There is zero "validity" in voting if one's goal is self ownership and justice.

Of course not, because ANY vote is a vote against self ownership at least, and most probably justice as well, as that vote allows another to define what justice is and is not.

[MamaLiberty]

My first post says last edited by scarmig...it was a 1 sentence post:  That makes for an excellent visual!

Sorry, I did not see that. No idea why scarmig would do that...

What you're responding to under my name was not written by me...see what I mean when I say people aren't sure what was said by whom in response to what?

Well, that was highly unusual for scarmig to do that. Normally, it is fairly clear who says what.

[Scarmiglione']

No something went wrong, and something I posted appears to have gotten confused or messed up.  Or maybe I accidentially "edited" Byte's post with what I was posting instead of responding.

Either way, it was not intentional.  My apologies!

[MamaLiberty]

Or maybe I accidentially "edited" Byte's post with what I was posting instead of responding.

Either way, it was not intentional.  My apologies!

AH!! I've actually done that a few times myself. Mystery solved.

[Byte Me]

No something went wrong, and something I posted appears to have gotten confused or messed up.  Or maybe I accidentially "edited" Byte's post with what I was posting instead of responding.

Either way, it was not intentional.  My apologies!

I know how it goes...

But, a floggin' is in order!  vvvv Flogging Molly video of The Worst Day Since Yesterday - prob my favorite song of theirs!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sDSud7vAH_0


No biggy.  Just wanted to make sure it was all straight!

[RVM45]

Sane and Cautious Tyrants may respond to edgy protests that are right on the Edge of Erupting into Open Rioting and Insurrection…

Our Tyrants are tunnel-visioned and while all of them May not be technically Insane—the Soi Disant Politikal System they form the Monitoring and Response portions of is built in such a way that it can only react Sluggishly and/or in Inappropriate and Neurotic ways to external stimulation.

It isn't so much that the Kenyan _{(and many Individual members of Congress)} are Crooked, Stupid and Neurotic…

The interesting—and tragic—thing is, even if they were Sane Men of Goodwill they couldn't do much differently at the moment.

Sure, given forty or fifty years and carte blanche to rebuild the whole system from the ground up…

{Yeah, many are saying, "Even a new Rational State would lack any Moral Authority to use Force and Coercion."

That isn't really responsive when someone asks not "Should we have a Machine?" but "How could we do a full Arsenal Rebuild on the Machine that we have?"}


…..RVM45               

[Taylor Kalashnikov]

Tyrants tend to listen to peaceful protest if they fear that the alternative is a viable violent opposition that is a true threat to them

[MamaLiberty]

Tyrants tend to listen to peaceful protest if they fear that the alternative is a viable violent opposition that is a true threat to them

Maybe, if they are not too arrogant or deluded to even believe such a thing is possible. If you have a vast army, the humble, unarmed prophet at the gate is unlikely to cause such fear. Or even dozens of such peaceful prophets.

Armed prophets probably won't waste their time sitting at the gate. What is there about unarmed and peaceful protesters that would indicate violent opposition was possible? Not saying it can't go that way, but I don't see much indication.

[Taylor Kalashnikov]

Tyrants tend to listen to peaceful protest if they fear that the alternative is a viable violent opposition that is a true threat to them

Maybe, if they are not too arrogant or deluded to even believe such a thing is possible. If you have a vast army, the humble, unarmed prophet at the gate is unlikely to cause such fear. Or even dozens of such peaceful prophets.

Armed prophets probably won't waste their time sitting at the gate. What is there about unarmed and peaceful protesters that would indicate violent opposition was possible? Not saying it can't go that way, but I don't see much indication.

for example.....throughout the soviet bloc in the late 80s/early90s, with the exception of Romania, the fall of communism was for the most part peaceful...and I hypothesize that was partially due to fear that the rank and file of the red army would possibly join the opposition and the communist party knew that.
also, during the civil rights movement, the militant wing, like Malcolm, the panthers etc, were a much scarier  alternative than sitting down and compromising with the likes of Dr King.

[MamaLiberty]

during the civil rights movement, the militant wing, like Malcolm, the panthers etc, were a much scarier  alternative than sitting down and compromising with the likes of Dr King.

King was backed by a fairly large number of armed folks, but I'm not at all sure there was any compromising done in truth. King is a very complex subject, and I suspect a lot of the truth will never be known. In any case, us mundanes won't be pushed around quite as much as long as we keep our guns.

[ZooT_aLLures]

THESE PEOPLE HAVE NO CONSCIENCE AND WE KEEP ACTING LIKE THEY DO!

that's because you base it on the incorrect assumption that they are people.
They're not.....they're animals devoid of logic and ethics.