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« Reply #15 on: November 24, 2003, 05:41:40 pm »

Claire, need a hairdo? Aussie.com
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« Reply #16 on: November 24, 2003, 05:43:52 pm »

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Anyway, Claire, I can answer your questions for you. God had nothing to do with the Inquisition or witch burnings. (Those were the work of <surprise> government [either the government of the Church or just plain ol government])

There! Now you can get to the real important mind-bending questions; like, where does infinity end? :unsure:
Thanks, Jac. But if Big Kahuna zaps people into pillars of salt just because they turn and look in the wrong direction, and if He inflicts plagues of boils upon people just because (ohmilord) ... He LIKES them ... then my next question is, "Where the heck were those lightning bolts when Torquemada or one of the various non-innocent Pope Innocents were doing their thing?"

Come to think of it, where the heck are those lightning bolts when Dubya and Mr. Ashcroft are claiming to be doing God's work?
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« Reply #17 on: November 24, 2003, 05:45:40 pm »

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Claire, need a hairdo? Aussie.com
Yeah, but my spammer gets his hair done at aussie.com.au ... different style altogether. Hotmail Down Under.
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Just as the flattery of friends often leads us astray, so the insults of enemies often do us good. -- St. Augustine, Confessions, Book IX, Chapter 8


When faith ceases to be a challenge to the standards of polite society, it is no longer, or has not yet become, faith. -- Donald Spoto, Reluctant Saint:  The Life of Francis of Assisi


My life is my message. -- Gandhi

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« Reply #18 on: November 24, 2003, 05:48:01 pm »

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It is very unlikely that this doofus (who is probably on a dialup account in France or the Netherlands) even know who you are.  He probably just bought a spammer software package, clicked "OK" at all the prompts and started sending out his junk.
Wow. I think I have the new advertising slogan for the Internet:

"The Net: Magnifying the Power of Idiots Beyond Their Wildest Dreams."
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Just as the flattery of friends often leads us astray, so the insults of enemies often do us good. -- St. Augustine, Confessions, Book IX, Chapter 8


When faith ceases to be a challenge to the standards of polite society, it is no longer, or has not yet become, faith. -- Donald Spoto, Reluctant Saint:  The Life of Francis of Assisi


My life is my message. -- Gandhi

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« Reply #19 on: November 24, 2003, 05:48:27 pm »

well, I once read that God must either be a perv sadist of the worst kind, tolerating all evil though being able to stop it in its tracks - or not being almighty at all. So he is either a pig or an impostor.
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« Reply #20 on: November 24, 2003, 05:55:48 pm »

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Okay, since we've just certified in another thread that these forums are heavily populated by heavy geeks, I got a question for you.

This morning a client of mine received an e-mail from "Clairewolfe." Only it wasn't from me. (I assure you, I had NO reason to send him a Viagra ad.) The spammer who sent the message didn't spoof my e-mail address. He, she, or more likely IT, just used a version of my name attached to a different address. Nor did anybody's virus get ahold of my MS Outlook info because my computer is 100 percent MS-free.

Here are the message headers, with the recipient's info deleted. Can anybody tell me 1) how or why this was done (e.g. was it some random choice to use my name or was there a reason they used me instead of Joe Blow or Mary Smith?) and 2) whether, if I sent a message to abuse@aussiemail.com.au they'd likely be able to identify this cretin and block him (or is the aussie.com.au address itself some sort of spammer spoof)?

Claire

Return-Path: <woodqqjalq@aussiemail.com.au>
X-Original-To: (recipient suppressed)
Delivered-To: (recipient suppressed)
Received: from john (unknown [81.241.117.51])
 by boromir.vpop.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 3DB533A943C
 for <recipient suppressed>; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 07:25:42 -0800 (PST)
Message-ID: <kzqon.806648lhmqetbht@Clairewolfeywqhihiztc>
From: "Clairewolfe" <woodqqjalq@aussiemail.com.au>
Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 16:28:53 +0100
To: (recipient suppressed)
Subject: Re: Good Enough For Her?
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1

Claire:

From the headers, it looks like the perpetrator was using IP address 81.241.117.51 to send mail to a customer (presumably your unlucky client) of VPOP.  The <woodqqjalq@aussiemail.com.au> return address is in all likelihood a complete fiction.  Since the IP address in question is allocated to customers of Skynet Belgacom I'd complain to <abuse@skynet.be>

Hope this helps.  I'm just a "total geek" according to the test and not a "geek god."  ;)

Dana
 
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« Reply #21 on: November 24, 2003, 08:20:20 pm »

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Since the IP address in question is allocated to customers of Skynet Belgacom I'd complain to <abuse@skynet.be>

Hope this helps.  I'm just a "total geek" according to the test and not a "geek god."  ;)
 
Hey, Dana! "Mere" Total Geek is good enough for me. This is a most useful piece of information! I'll go complain to skynet.be now.

Claire
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Just as the flattery of friends often leads us astray, so the insults of enemies often do us good. -- St. Augustine, Confessions, Book IX, Chapter 8


When faith ceases to be a challenge to the standards of polite society, it is no longer, or has not yet become, faith. -- Donald Spoto, Reluctant Saint:  The Life of Francis of Assisi


My life is my message. -- Gandhi

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« Reply #22 on: November 24, 2003, 08:24:38 pm »

I've been fighting this particular problem for months. My personal email account has periodically been banned by various of the spam filters because of this sort of nonsense. There really doesn't seem to be a lot you can do about it. I've only had one of the dozen or so ISPs I complained to where the spam originated even respond.
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« Reply #23 on: November 26, 2003, 06:06:37 pm »

I hate to drag this out, but I finally figured out how to answer this...

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Thanks, Jac. But if Big Kahuna zaps people into pillars of salt just because they turn and look in the wrong direction, and if He inflicts plagues of boils upon people just because (ohmilord) ... He LIKES them ...
Well, I'm no theological scholar, so all I can do is correct you. :P

Lot's wife was turned to salt not because she looked back, but because she was told not to look back. It wasn't the act itself, it was that she disobeyed God.

And, He didn't give boils to the people He liked... He gave them to the people who were enslaving the people He loved.

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then my next question is, "Where the heck were those lightning bolts when Torquemada or one of the various non-innocent Pope Innocents were doing their thing?"
Good question; again, I'm no scholar... I believe it's because after the death of Christ, the concept of salvation changed. They'll get theirs on Judgement Day.

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Come to think of it, where the heck are those lightning bolts when Dubya and Mr. Ashcroft are claiming to be doing God's work?
Same as above... they'll be roastin' beside the Popes (un)Innocent, after all is said and done.
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« Reply #24 on: December 08, 2003, 10:13:31 pm »

It was not me and my damned cc thingy! I buy my Viagra like a man-from a back alley guy who just so happens to drive a white, nondescript van...
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« Reply #25 on: December 09, 2003, 05:20:30 am »

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 ----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors -----
<woodqqjalq@aussiemail.com.au>

   ----- Transcript of session follows -----
... while talking to sitemail.everyone.net.:
>>> RCPT To:<woodqqjalq@aussiemail.com.au>
<<< 550 <woodqqjalq@aussiemail.com.au>: Recipient address rejected: This user does not have an account here (MTA:imta25)
550 <woodqqjalq@aussiemail.com.au>... User unknown


You're right, Dana
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« Reply #26 on: December 09, 2003, 09:35:16 am »

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P.S. Mr. God, I'll save the rest of my questions for later. But here's a hint: You'd better have a *really* good answer about that little Inquisition thingie. And those witch-burnings, too.
Here is an interesting aside on that subject:

http://www.holysmoke.org/sdhok/foxholes.htm

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My great-grandfather returned from the Somme in the winter of 1916. He was an officer in a Welsh Guards regiment. He had been gassed and shot and had seen his platoon numerically wiped out and replaced more than three times since he first took command of it. He had used his side arm, a Webley revolver, so much that its barrel was pitted into uselessness. I heard a story about one of his advances across no-man's-land in which he set out with a full company and by the time he arrived at the German wire was one of only two men left alive.

Until that time, this branch of my family had been Calvinistic Methodists. . .

But when he returned from the war, my great-grandfather had seen enough to change his mind. He gathered the family together and banned religion in his house. 'Either god is a bastard,' he said, 'or god isn't there at all.'"

Paul Watkins, "A Friend to the Godless," pp. 40-41, in A Tremor of Bliss: Contemporary Writers on the Saints, ed. by Paul Elie, Riverhead Books / Berkeley, 1995.
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« Reply #27 on: December 09, 2003, 09:50:48 am »

See also R. Bach, Running from Safety.
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