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Basil Fishbone

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The pathology of the Montana Fish, Wildlife and Parks department.  This used to be called the Fish and Game department.  Basil

Dear MSSA Friends,

I composed the email below to a member of the FWP Commission and sent it to him and to a few others.  Some of those others liked it so much, I thought I'd share it with you.



Shane Colton
FWP Commission


See the story in the Bozeman Chronicle at:

This is the first overt symptom of the agency "death spiral" for FWP.

For two decades, FWP has come to focus on wildlife and biology, when it should have been focused on fish and game.  A significant part of this picture has been FWP's shocking tolerance and support for large predators.  FWP's total, willing, even eager cooperation with large predator enhancement has long been predicted to result in an economic crash for the agency, when the word unavoidably spreads that there is no game left to hunt so there is no reason to buy a license.

FWP leaders have for too long leaned on the scales of policy by making excuses for the devastation wrought to game herds by large predators, fudging game counts and census numbers, and blaming any population declines that could not be covered up on climate change, sunspots, or aliens - anything but the truth.  This coverup culture has been fostered by senior staff, always near retirement, who knew they'd be gone and not in the hot seat when the crisis actually arrived.

If the overall FWP attitude had not been so Hell-bent on "ecosystem management," "biological diversity," "natural balance" and other similar catchy but terminal "green" ideas destined to end hunting, FWP managers could have projected the current crisis years ago.  I guess nobody at FWP noticed or cared several years ago when the editor of the NRA's American Hunter magazine wrote a feature article about his fruitless elk hunting trip to southwest Montana, a trip where the only tracks he saw were wolf tracks.  Nobody at FWP noticed or cared about the other thousands of warnings from Montana citizens.  Worse, those warnings were ignored in a mad pursuit of a "green" agenda for FWP.

The stock mantra from FWP managers has been:  We're the professionals.  We know best.  The outcome concerned citizens project will never come to pass.  The "evidence" of crashing game herds citizens cite is just "campfire stories" and is without merit because it doesn't come from professional FWP biologists.

Yet when retired FWP employees, freed from the institutional FWP muzzle, asserted that FWP-tolerated wolves were turning the Montana landscape into a "biological desert," FWP dismissed such comments summarily.

For the last two decades, FWP has been busy digging a hole for itself.  As it sees daylight disappearing around the edges of the hole, it still won't quit digging.

Of course, the obvious solution for the bureaucratic-bound and reality-disconnected FWP will be to announce, "We've been managing wildlife for the general public (including the non-Montana public) for years.  Now we need the general public to pay the bills."  FWP has so fouled its nest by inadvisably removing hunters from the economic equation that it will eventually have to go to the Legislature asking for relief, including increased fees that hunters simply won't pay to access a vanishing resource, and, ultimately, general taxpayer money.

You can bet that when FWP approaches the Legislature demanding an allowance increase as a reward for having flunked Econ 101, MSSA and thousands of Montana hunters will be there to say "Absolutely no way."  FWP has not only ignored the many warnings from Montana hunters, it has mocked and disrespected them.

What FWP needs is not more or alternate sources of money, but a total change in attitude and culture.  Until that happens, let FWP starve!  It is not serving Montanans.

Sincerely yours,

Gary Marbut, president
Montana Shooting Sports Association
author, Gun Laws of Montana



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Re: The pathology of the Montana Fish, Wildlife and Parks department.
« Reply #1 on: January 22, 2012, 07:25:21 am »

Excellent. Hope they get the message.
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Re: The pathology of the Montana Fish, Wildlife and Parks department.
« Reply #2 on: January 22, 2012, 10:03:23 pm »

It wouldn't have anything to do with Montana jacking up the liscence fees over 100% would it?

I know what costed me $150 three years ago is now $350(nonresident mule deer tag) I and the other dozen guys that used to go there every year say to hell with hunting in that's about $4000 a year........and that's just one party out of probably thousands that "used" to go there.

now add in that it was cheaper for us to buy our groceries, and a lot of other neccessities and niceties(smokes, beer, gas, etc,etc,etc) out there rather than truck them from a thousand miles away...........and that takes about $1000 away from the local merchants in the area we hunted.
And then add in how many other partiers probably stayed in the local hotels and motels and ate in the restaurants and everything else............but won't be doing it anymore

Yup Montana fish and game really screwed the people of Montana big time................but then again, the people of Montana don't want our money anyways.....or at least fish and game doesn't think I guess it doesn't matter........

Even some cowboy and indian outlaws in the 1800's eventually stopped sleeping under buffalo skins, and came to town to entertain paying customers. For some I imagine the bruising of their ego never healed.

We all have some scar tissue that never lets us completely forget the intent of the adventure.
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