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[Rarick]

Over time= over history.  The soldiers of the modern era are highly trained technically savvy professionals.  The soldiers of ww1 and ww2 were of the quantity has a quality all its own variety of mass produced force......

A lot of veterans have a self resourceful, independent minded and often liberty minded minset which makes them unfit for being the sheeple TPTB want for easy farming.  That makes them unfit for general society that they protect......

[S. Jester]

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[ZooT_aLLures]

A lot of veterans have a self resourceful, independent minded and often liberty minded minset which makes them unfit for being the sheeple TPTB want for easy farming.

Sucking up veterans benefits and living on social security by now.............One of the main "sheeple" points is feeding from the hand of the shepherd, and accepting that the theft is legitimate.........and they'll do just about anything..........including voting an asshole like Arapio(Hitler wannabe) into a position to assure that the feed keeps coming in.

It's far cheaper to rent souls than to buy them..............hence the welfare state we live in now...........with an additional aspect being..........the rent payments can stop at any time........so they get the souls at a fraction of the sale price, and can hold them hostage as well under threat of stopping payment.

One might be forced to "pay into" the system via taxes and such..........and in many respects that "is" supporting the system of enslavement..........but one doesn't have to and isn't forced to "take" the stolen money..........it's a free choice in that regard, and "it" just as much as paying in, serves to support the system................

[bennie]

A lot of veterans have a self resourceful, independent minded and often liberty minded minset which makes them unfit for being the sheeple TPTB want for easy farming.

Sucking up veterans benefits and living on social security by now.............One of the main "sheeple" points is feeding from the hand of the shepherd, and accepting that the theft is legitimate.........and they'll do just about anything..........including voting an asshole like Arapio(Hitler wannabe) into a position to assure that the feed keeps coming in.

It's far cheaper to rent souls than to buy them..............hence the welfare state we live in now...........with an additional aspect being..........the rent payments can stop at any time........so they get the souls at a fraction of the sale price, and can hold them hostage as well under threat of stopping payment.

One might be forced to "pay into" the system via taxes and such..........and in many respects that "is" supporting the system of enslavement..........but one doesn't have to and isn't forced to "take" the stolen money..........it's a free choice in that regard, and "it" just as much as paying in, serves to support the system................

That pegs a few people on this board . Some have developed a way around it by saying their involvement in a particular group is about recruiting certain types to the liberty movement so that makes it all ok for them to get back into the system, back on the grid, renew passports, tape back together those drivers licenses and soc sec cards they had once torn up....and collect that soc sec and use veterans benefits.  Some others only talk shit while never admitting their own hands are in the till.

Kind of like that tag line says: "Even some cowboy and indian outlaws in the 1800's eventually stopped sleeping under buffalo skins, and came to town to entertain paying customers. For some I imagine the bruising of their ego never healed."

Me...I know I work for the state and due to being a RN for the last 35 years that has not been something I can get around as a RN. That is the ways medicine is unless one thinks they can work for butter and eggs in trade for services and still pay the rent and one's own medical bills (or not get sued for malpractice should something go wrong in treating somebody when only getting paid in eggs and butter. ) I live in my reality of life and make no excuses for it. I have never had to use the VA for medical but would if I had to.

ZooT, you are a hoot and I miss you when you are not around these boards to point out the obvious when many here try to pass gas under cover of "it's the dog that farted...not me."

[heyoka]

I live in my reality of life and make no excuses for it.

As do we all.
Comfy keyboard judgement and condemnation is (almost) free......and easy, apparently invigorating and ego inflating. 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LQMr9DvXXF8
Matthew 7
Military training is the most sophisticated and refined brainwashing there is. Some people get past it, some don't. It offers adventures of a lifetime for raging hormone jugend.
It makes fertile recruiting ground for various positions of authority, from loco local po-po to the ever expanding TLAs.
Some are genuinely altruistic and buy into the "fighting evil" meme. Some of it's real.
Some (probably mostly NCOs and ground pounders), get how effed up it is, and become well trained Milgram experiment outliers.
 

[slidemansailor]

I spent most of my life feeding the machine ... indirectly mostly, but for 3 years, 8 months and 11 days during "the Vietnam era", directly.

I completely comprehended and accepted the libertarian philosophical concepts of accepting nothing from big brother. No handout was okay. Keep your distance. Stay pure.

One day an emotionally close, geographically distant friend of my age slapped me in the face ... "You are putting in while I am taking out."  Sadly, in approximately equal amounts.

Holey crap. I'm feeding the monster that I hate while he is bleeding it.  Who is doing the better thing?

Of course both of us are insignificant gnats. But the point was very well taken... startling even. 

A tiny bit of research showed me that I could have every bit as much money in my pocket if I moved to the other side.  Since the management I was working under was, to be polite, HORRID, I took my leave and moved over to the parasite class.

A parasite on a wholesome host is a bad thing.  I'm not so sure how to classify a parasite on an evil beast.  Are you?

Meanwhile, I rail, organize and prepare against the evil that approaches us, while keeping myself from starvation via the dole that they assume I am dependent upon. 

Interesting side benefit - lulling them into that belief that I feel obliged to them.  AssUming THAT couldn't be much farther off the mark.

Nothing could please me more than a full awakening of the people with the demise of the true parasitic class, the ruling elites, as a result.

[ZooT_aLLures]

A parasite on a wholesome host is a bad thing.  I'm not so sure how to classify a parasite on an evil beast.  Are you?

A parasite is a parasite.......period.........and were it not to be feeding on an evil beast.......it'd be looking for another host to feed on.........it doesn't care whether it's wholesome or evil, only that it can feed on it.

And I look daily into the mirror, and I really don't see an evil beast, and even though I'm forced to be the host for parasites, I DON"T have to be a parasite myself.......I only become a parasite if I make a willing choice to indulge in the results of the plunder of other nameless faceless people who also happen to be forced to be hosts for those who do choose to be parasites.

[ZooT_aLLures]

Some have developed a way around it by saying their involvement in a particular group is about recruiting certain types to the liberty movement so that makes it all ok for them to get back into the system, back on the grid, renew passports, tape back together those drivers licenses and soc sec cards they had once torn up....and collect that soc sec and use veterans benefits.  Some others only talk shit while never admitting their own hands are in the till.

It's been said:
An honestly mistaken man, when confronted by truth, either ceases to be mistaken, or ceases to be honest.

[DiabloLoco]

It's been said:
An honestly mistaken man, when confronted by truth, either ceases to be mistaken, or ceases to be honest.

Nice!  I may use that one sometime. Is it a quote by you, or someone else?

EDIT- Nevermind Found it!

When a man who is honestly mistaken hears the truth, he will either quit being mistaken, or cease to be honest. --Unknown