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[Mad Wet Hen]

Women have strengths that amaze men.
They bear hardships and they carry burdens, but they hold happiness, love and joy.
They smile when they want to scream. They sing when they want to cry. They cry when they are happy
and laugh when they are nervous. They fight for what they believe in. They stand up to inju stice.
They don't take 'no' for an answer when they believe there is a better solution. They go without so their family can have. They go to the doctor with a frightened friend. They love unconditionally.
They cry when their children excel and cheer when their friends get awards. T hey are happy when they hear about a birth or a wedding. Their hearts break when a friend dies.
They grieve at the loss of a family member, yet they are strong when they think there is no strength left.
They know that a hug and a kiss can heal a broken heart. Women come in all shapes, sizes and colors.
They'll drive, fly, walk, run or e-mail you to show how much they care about you.
The heart of a woman is what makes the world keep turning They bring joy, hope and love.
They have compassion and ideals. They give moral support to their family and friends.
Women have vital things to say and everything to give,
HOWEVER, IF THERE IS ONE TINY FLAW IN WOMEN,

IT IS THAT THEY FORGET THEIR WORTH.

[Joel]

Ah!   

So that was the problem!  My ex-wife wasn't a woman!

[Mad Wet Hen]

That is mean, but most men feel that way about ex's. My ex husband most likely felt that way about me before he passed on. He was a great guy but couldn't inderstand why I loved him so he said all kinds of mean things. One day I couldn't take it any more and the rest is history.

[Claire]

They bring joy, hope and love. They have compassion and ideas. They give moral support to their
family and friends. Women have vital things to say and everything to give.

Mmmmm ... well, that's a pretty broad generalization. I've certainly been blessed to know women like that. But I've also known a few .... well, I don't think I ever met Joel's ex-wife. But I'm pretty sure I've encountered her twin sister. And I've met women who were so giving it became oppressive.

HOWEVER, IF THERE IS ONE FLAW IN WOMEN, IT IS THAT THEY FORGET THEIR WORTH.

But I agree that this part is generally true. Women do tend to undervalue themselves. We're so busy picking at our own flaws & doubting our own abilities that we don't see the good in ourselves.

And just to make this more freedom-oriented, I perceive that women's general lack of self-confidence keeps us from trying or suceeding at a lot of things we could otherwise do. ("Oh, me? I couldn't handle a gun." "I could never understand how solar power works." "I don't understand what that economist meant; I must be too stupid to understand economics.")

[Bear]

I'm going to make a big generalization here, but ...

If there is one flaw in women, it's that they are too prone to
self-doubt.

If you figure that one out, you've got the world by the tail.

Bear

[Mad Wet Hen]

Of core we doubt ourselves. Look even the Bible starts off saying that it is woman's fault that man was thrown out of the Garden of Eden, because we supposedly listened to the serpent.

[dogsledder54]

You can't generalize that broadly. Some women are so sweet and nice that you can't say enough GOOD about them. But some are totally devoid of ANY redeeming features. Go figure. 

[iloilo]

 The Bible was written by men.
Try reading The Chalice and the Blade,
and other works by and for women.
Forget all the Bible stuff about women: those guys were just trying to destroy the Goddess faith.
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[Mad Wet Hen]

I understand that there are books that lift women up but the first thing little girls learn about religion is from the Bible.

[iloilo]

Well, no not all of us: some little girls learn from the Tao and Buddha.

We don't get such a creepy bad self image as Bible-reading women get.

I think that if this is so, that girls have other sources of world creation myths and stories, even many Native culture legends, then there is less unlearning to do than for those who believe all the bad stuff about women that is in the Bible.  I think the Bible is totally abusive to women, just so those old guys could smudge out the Goddess part of faith.  Creeps!
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[Klapton Isgod]

Jesus loves little girls just as much as little boys.  What they learn about Jesus is what their parents teach them about Jesus.  Or even better, what Jesus teaches them about Jesus.

In other words, one's religion (or lack thereof) is whatever they choose it to be, and whatever they choose to focus on as being truly important.  I see no need to throw out Baby Jesus with the bath water.

[Mad Wet Hen]

I had no intention of starting a conflict. Just when I was a little girl my dad said that girls where not equal to boys that girls needed boy to keep them from making the same mistakes as Eve did. He also told me to think twice before I did anything then think again, that way I would have a better chance of doing the right thing. When I was all grown he told me that he had told my step brother the same thing. It would have been nice if I would have known that when I was little for it has taken me a long time to get to the point that I know I am just as able as any man to think and figure out how to do for myself. Good thing I did finally learn that or my husband would be in a world of hurt now. Seeings he has had a stroke and needs me more then ever.

[dogsledder54]

What religion teaches girls and boys about women, is NOT what is in the Bible. It can be quoted to back up almost any opinion, bias, or belief that the quoter wants to back up. Fraud, theft, even murder. It's words are twisted in every way possible, and when the words are not twisted, the ideas are. But if the reader really GROKS the Bible, they will not use it for ill, but for good. The IDEA about women in the Bible is NOT that they are inferior OR superior to men. But you can quote it to make it seem that way. That's MY opinion.
What religion teaches girls and boys about women, is NOT what is in the Bible, but whatever the attitude of the TEACHER is. Good or bad.

[Mad Wet Hen]

True that is why my dad did twist it and so did the Catholic church, to make little girls think that they where naturally bad and so they would listen to any man. I was a slave to my first husband until I found out he gave drugs to our son so the baby would sleep while I worked. My second husband helped me see that I was worth something and my husband now needs me and tells me from time to time just how much he is glad I am his wife. He calls me his angel in his arms.

[SoundTheBell]

Religion aside, look at what girls are bombarded with everyday.
Billboards of airbrushed supermodels that look nothing like them.
Television shows, magazines, video games full of perfectly-proportioned girls and women that look nothing like them.
Being clustered into herds with one teacher for 30 kids where the "if you're different, you're lesser" attitude is both lived and held up as the pinnacle of life's meaning, where one adult can't possibly keep up and do all of the intervention against this self-eating behavior that needs to be done when this many kids are clustered together.
Boys taught that if they sleep around they're more of a man, girls told that if they do the same thing they're worthless sluts.

In today's society it almost takes a miracle for a girl to see herself as worthwhile, competent, confident. Wresting her freedom from society's groupthink is probably the hardest thing she'll ever do, IF she manages to do it at all. Most don't.