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Re: Escaping the bad guys
« Reply #15 on: September 06, 2009, 08:20:59 pm »

IIRC Boston recommended having a hand held spot light to blind a persurer at night.
Most effective if used on a sharp curve.
Industrial lasers might do the same job during the day, but with permanent eye damage likely.
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Re: Escaping the bad guys
« Reply #16 on: September 07, 2009, 03:16:40 pm »

An oil injector fitted into the exhaust manifold will produce a nice thick smoke cloud at teh flick of a switch. (not for use with CAT equipped vehicles unless placed DOWNSTREAM of said CAT).

Similar nozzles fitted under the rear bumper spraying oil down will send pursuers in a lateral trajectory when taking corners (particularly effective on high speeed freeway cloverleaf exits).

Plain old motor oil sprayed into the air will coat a windshield quite nicely, and while it CAN be removed with wiper fluid, it will take several seconds in a best case scenario to restore effective vision which could be used to your advantage when approaching a turn, and can be readily re-applied at will.

A device designed to feed out some barbed wire behind may prove effective as such items tend to get caught up in rotating massess (of which there are plenty under a car) causing less than desireable operating conditions.

A drop box of ball bearings under the bumpre will have a negative effect on windshields.

another thing to concider... a kill switch for all running/brake lights.
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Re: Escaping the bad guys
« Reply #17 on: September 07, 2009, 07:54:45 pm »

A small tank of diesel/ motor oil in the trunk with a solenoid valve hooked to a dash switch.  Drill holes to route the tube into the last foot of so of your exhaust pipe.  The diesel/motor oil will create a massive cloud.  Make sure you put it IN the pipe, outside the exhaust would have too much air and be a big fire hazard.  Modifying one of those after market "flaming tailpipe" kits would probably do it.

The speed of a bunch of ball bearings might not spider web a windshield, but it would definitely get someone to back off.  What do you do when a dump truck is dropping gravel in front of you and you hear the banging/rattle?  I agree with the ability to leave no continuing hazard, bystanders should not be included in the problem.

Ballistic protection may be start at the reaer trunk and layer it as you move forward, and hope they are not shooting AP rounds at you.  I know 9mm ball will go thru car doors (don't ask) and that the heavier .30/7.62 class ammo will go clean thru the vehicle if it doesn't hit the engine block.  Plan appropriately.  Incidentally if they have AP and use it, you are done.

An M16 using AP rounds will penetrate a 1" steel plate, heavier rounds are worse.
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Re: Escaping the bad guys
« Reply #18 on: September 07, 2009, 10:45:00 pm »

Thanks, socalserf, Phssthpok, Rarick, for that spate of ideas.  I have a headlight that's already wired for use with a 12-volt battery.  I could easily adapt that to shine out my rear-door window.  I like the rear-lights cutoff switch too.  Blast 'em with headlights then cut all visible lights.

BTW, I got ingredients for two disguise kits, one for house, one for van:  hair color kit, depilatory cream, and sunglasses.  Still need colored contact lenses, skin darkener, face-changing materials.  Also ordered chemicals for making my own smoke bombs.
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Re: Escaping the bad guys
« Reply #19 on: September 14, 2009, 06:13:27 pm »

Face recognition software can run off of a cellphone CPU, it is the picture database that requires a big desktop.  A disguise kit is not going to do any good if they start zapping people at checkpoints.  If they are only looking for a few people the data base can be in a Patrol Car's laptop and a simple blue tooth link allows the phone and laptop to talk.  If they are looking for YOU they will find you.  A casual disguise kit will probably be okay, just remember to keep your current diguise/ID/Vehicle plates in synch a lot of security and investigation is about spotting anomalies, don't create any.
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Re: Escaping the bad guys
« Reply #20 on: September 17, 2009, 12:04:02 am »

Hooked up a headlight to shine out a rear door window on my van. I just plug it into my lighter socket.  I have another headlight that I might hook up on the same circuit.  It could be useful for nighttime loading operations too.
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Re: Escaping the bad guys
« Reply #21 on: September 17, 2009, 01:20:49 am »

i had cut out switch's on my trucks growing up and two wooden box's with headlights in them bolted behind the cab.
 and i tyred the 4/4 with spikes in it hung under the rearend. couldn't get both sides to release at the same time.
smoke bombs didn't work for me,if there after you they don't even slow down, you got to make them wont to leave you alone!!!
i did rig a 22 under the hood and put wax pencil marks on the inside of the windshield to shoot deer.?
and a double barrel  12 rig to shoot tires ? I'm up town now my Toyota truck's rear window rolls down all the way.
and with the other 4 windows down you can shoot back with out blowing out  or cracking windows.
sfe,synthetic fermented egg, sold to trappers, is a nose killer dogs have a hard time smelling after a nose full of it.
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