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byron mc

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Cuba Russia Venezuela China- 2009-2012
« on: November 29, 2008, 01:08:33 pm »

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After 50 years, President-elect Obama will be presented with an opportunity do something different in Cuba. If he chooses, the "what if " in 1963 can become the new reality in 2009.
The "What If" in 1963 Could be Reality in 2009
November 29, 2008
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/byron-williams/the-what-if-in-1963-could_b_147015.html



Russian President Dmitry Medvedev Friday signed mining and oil exploration deals with Cuban leader Raul Castro,
Russian president signs deals with Cuba
Nov. 28, 2008
http://www.upi.com/Top_News/2008/11/28/Russian_president_signs_deals_with_Cuba/UPI-65901227920299/



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He's a Castro clone with barrels of petro-dollars to bankroll his Marxist dreams: Hugo Chavez.
The Elephant in the Room: It's time to take on Chavez
The Venezuelan can be clownish, but can't be dismissed. He is a threat to U.S. security.

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Iran also uses Venezuela's financial system - specifically, the Iranian-controlled Banco Internacional de Desarrollo in Caracas - to launder money and circumvent U.N., U.S. and European economic sanctions.

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Chavez's relationship with Iran is worse. Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad has said of himself and Chavez, "We are brothers."
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Recently, the brotherhood of Iran and Venezuela announced a $4 billion joint venture in oil production.
Nov. 20, 2008
http://www.philly.com/inquirer/opinion/20081120_The_Elephant_in_the_Room__It_s_time_to_take_on_Chavez.html


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In his fifth visit to Beijing in October, Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez agreed to double oil shipments to China to 200,000 barrels per day. In return, China manufactured and launched Venezuela's first satellite on October 30.
Medvedev in Cuba to improve ties
28 November 2008
http://www.wsws.org/articles/2008/nov2008/chin-n29.shtml


related:
China to be 1 million barrel/day oil customer by 2012 -Venezuela - Euros or yuan
https://thementalmilitia.com/forums/index.php?topic=17028.0
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Re: Cuba Russia Venezuela China- 2009-2012
« Reply #1 on: November 29, 2008, 01:11:48 pm »

So...nation-states of which the U.S. government does not approve are committing acts of unauthorized peaceful commerce?  They're getting on with their lives without permission?

Horror!  Think of the children!

Invade right now!
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modernization of Russia's nuclear forces
« Reply #2 on: March 17, 2009, 09:53:48 am »

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RUSSIAN President Dmitry Medvedev last night ordered a large-scale Russian rearmament - including its nuclear arsenal - from 2011.
"From 2011, a large-scale rearmament of the army and navy will begin," he said in Moscow.
March 18, 2009
http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,25203319-5013948,00.html

Russia resumed long-range bomber patrols after a 15-year hiatus in 2007
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Russia's Interfax news agency reported
"There are four or five airfields in Cuba with 4,000-meter-long runways, which absolutely suit us," Maj. Gen. Anatoly Zhikharev told Interfax.
Zhikharev, who is the chief of staff of the Russian Air Force's long-range aviation, said, "If the two chiefs of state display such a political will, we are ready to fly there."
http://www.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/europe/03/14/russia.cuba.bombers/
http://www.defensetech.org/archives/004743.html
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/29691183/

scroll down and check the November 29, 2008 post too.

Something to keep an eye on...
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Re: Cuba Russia Venezuela China- 2009-2012
« Reply #3 on: March 19, 2009, 07:57:01 am »

 I don't think we'd have the problems with Russia if we'd understand the following:

Russia has faced annihilation as a people several times in their history, expanding military alliances & NATO expansion with countries that border Russia is seen as a threat.
When the Demican wing of the communist party w/Republicrat support decided to intervene in the Balkans wars of the 90s, we bombed Serbia, a strategic ally of Russia. The Russians and Serbs are as close as we are to the British. The Russians went to WAR for the Serbs in WWI for cryin' out loud!
We, a young nation, like to lecture and wag our finger at ancient Russia, if I was Ivan, I'd tell Uncle Sam to go pound sand, too.

 We wouldn't have any of the problems with Russia if we'd adhere to the wisdom of our founding fathers & stay the hell out of entangling foreign alliances & mind our own affairs.
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Re: Cuba Russia Venezuela China- 2009-2012
« Reply #4 on: March 29, 2009, 02:43:50 am »


We, a young nation, like to lecture and wag our finger at ancient Russia, if I was Ivan, I'd tell Uncle Sam to go pound sand, too.

 We wouldn't have any of the problems with Russia if we'd adhere to the wisdom of our founding fathers & stay the hell out of entangling foreign alliances & mind our own affairs.

Amen, Brother!

Salute!
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Re: Cuba Russia Venezuela China- 2009-2012
« Reply #5 on: June 10, 2009, 08:15:50 pm »

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to intervene in the Balkans wars of the 90s, we bombed Serbia, a strategic ally of Russia.

We bombed Serbia because Serbia would not join the EU after the fall of the Warsaw Pact like all of the other Eastern European nations except Belarus and Moldova which both are under heavy pressure to look west.  Ukraine and Georgia and their color revolutions have gained little since the collapse.

I mean, face it NATO bombed Serbian infrastructure and not the Serb 3rd Army that left Kosovo virtually intact after 78 days, why?  So Serbia would be so desperate that they would have no choice but to ask for help from the west and that help would require EU or NATO membership and all soverignty lost.

We did not hear about Kosovo indpenedence until after Serbia signed the $15 billion South Stream oil pipeline deal with Russia as punishment for the Serbs.  That pipeline project rivals the west's Nabucco pipeline into Europe.  And let's not forget the $1 billion AMBO oil pipeline being built in the Balkans as we speak and all of those vital minerals in the Trepca mines in Kosovo as bait.

The west got what they wanted, evil Milosevich removed (after the conflict and later poisoned at the Hague), Serbia was weakened and Russia was in no position to help at the time and Serbia was surronded not only by EU states but NATO ones likewise.  Serbia has no choice but to obey their western masters now.

Moldova is next on the hitlist and with their recent elections where the commies won a fair election, youths rioted after the vote which leads me to believe the west is somehow involved in vote rigging (CIA) type of behaviors to install a loyal western regime and then off to Belarus.

Ukraine and Georgia are still under review.  Recent coup attempts in Ukraine and Georgia was stupid to attack Russian positions last summer in South Ossetia then again the U.S. could have ordered Georgia to do this under the cover of the Olympics to paint the Russians as the aggressors and not even a few days passed that the former Sec. of State Rice was in Poland to use this example to convince the Polish to sign the ABM missile deal.  Stranger things have happened.

Back to Serbia, they were busy fighting Islamic terrorists the KLA and we punished them for that.  We knowingly supported a known international terror group and the cradle of what was Serbia's traditional religious homeland is now destroyed and Christian churches have been replaced (actually bombed) by Mosque's.

Now I did not forget NATO's continued expansion and Camp Bondsteel in Kosovo the largest U.S. base since Vietnam...





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We wouldn't have any of the problems with Russia if we'd adhere to the wisdom of our founding fathers & stay the hell out of entangling foreign alliances & mind our own affairs.


Get this, Russia the world's largest oil and gas producer (yeah we need this stuff to fuel our economy and way of life) a major nuclear power and has been a loyal fighter against radical Islamic thugs and terrorists in Chechnya and Afghanistan and what do we do?  We punish them and supply their Islamic enemies like the Taliban.

We create our own enemies period!
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Russia Venezuela 2009-2012
« Reply #6 on: September 12, 2009, 09:52:17 am »

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Venezuela's President Hugo Chavez has announced that the country will soon take delivery of Russian missiles with a range of 300km (185 miles).



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Venezuela is involved in a long-running diplomatic stand-off with neighbouring Colombia,

But he denied they would be used for offensive purposes.

"We are not going to attack anybody, these are just defence tools, because we are going to defend our country from any threat, wherever it may come from," the president said.
12 September 2009
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/8251969.stm
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Cuba & USA
« Reply #7 on: September 15, 2009, 07:07:11 am »

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After 50 years, President-elect Obama will be presented with an opportunity do something different in Cuba. If he chooses, the "what if " in 1963 can become the new reality in 2009.

Opportunity lost.
Obama keeps the trade & travel embargo officially┬  this week.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/low/americas/8256196.stm
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Re: Cuba & USA
« Reply #8 on: October 07, 2015, 03:14:43 pm »

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After 50 years, President-elect Obama will be presented with an opportunity do something different in Cuba. If he chooses, the "what if " in 1963 can become the new reality in 2009.

Sept. 2015
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Obama told the U.N. on Monday he was confident the U.S. Congress would eventually lift the U.S. embargo on Cuba.
http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/09/29/us-un-assembly-obama-castro-idUSKCN0RT1VR20150929

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They stunned the world late last year by announcing detente, and in July, the United States and Cuba restored diplomatic relations after a 54-year break.
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