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NORAD Releases Mother Lode of 9/11 Tapes
« on: April 18, 2008, 01:25:03 pm »

Black Listed News
April 17, 2008

Source: Danger Room - Media Monarchy

The Web site governmentattic.org says NORAD and U.S. Northern Command "have released a copy of their audio files, telephone conversations and situation room discussions, from the terrorist attacks on September 11, 2001."

And governmentattic.org has posted them all to its site, in .zip files linked within a .pdf document.

It was a little labor intensive getting to the files & i think they’re mislabeled. so i’ve sorted them out & saved you some headaches. here are the direct download links:


DRM1_DAT2_Channel_2_MCC_Op.zip
DRM1_DAT2_Channel_3_MCC_TK.zip
DRM1_DAT2_Channel_4_ID_Op.zip
DRM1_DAT2_Channel_5_ID_TK.zip
DRM1_DAT2_Channel_7_ID2_OP.zip
DRM1_DAT2_Channel_8_ID2_TK.zip
DRM1_DAT2_Channel_9_TT_Op.zip
DRM1_DAT2_Channel_10_TT_TK.zip
DRM1_DAT2_Channel_11_ACWO_OP.zip
DRM1_DAT2_Channel_12_ACWO_TK.zip
DRM1_DAT2_Channel_13_TT_Op.zip
DRM1_DAT2_Channel_14_TT_TK.zip
DRM1_DAT2_Channel_15_AST_Op.zip
DRM1_DAT2_Channel_16_AST_TK.zip
DRM1_DAT2_Channel_17_TT_Op.zip
DRM2_DAT1_Channel_20_SD2_TK.zip
DRM1_DAT2_Channel_21_TT_Op.zip
DRM1_DAT2_Channel_24_AICC.zip
DRM3_DAT2_Channel_24_Emerg-AICC.zip


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Re: NORAD Releases Mother Lode of 9/11 Tapes
« Reply #1 on: April 18, 2008, 02:24:00 pm »

I have mixed feelings over these tapes. How do we know they weren't manufactured given the time that has passed. The other issue is that there is sufficient evidence to begin prosecuting many people here in the States for complicity in the attacks and covering up the attacks. If these tapes are fake then they are a distraction from the plethora of evidence already pointing to a Mossad/CIA operation.
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Re: NORAD Releases Mother Lode of 9/11 Tapes
« Reply #2 on: April 18, 2008, 02:40:09 pm »

Here's the file list as clickable links. Most of the files are about 45 megabytes. I've only tested the first one, but assume the others are in the same directory. In order to be nice to governmentattic.org, I've added a "2" to the end of each link. Remove that when you download. This will keep the search engines from downloading all those files over and over.

http://www.governmentattic.org/docs/DRM1_DAT2_Channel_2_MCC_Op.zip2
http://www.governmentattic.org/docs/DRM1_DAT2_Channel_3_MCC_TK.zip2
http://www.governmentattic.org/docs/DRM1_DAT2_Channel_4_ID_Op.zip2
http://www.governmentattic.org/docs/DRM1_DAT2_Channel_5_ID_TK.zip2
http://www.governmentattic.org/docs/DRM1_DAT2_Channel_7_ID2_OP.zip2
http://www.governmentattic.org/docs/DRM1_DAT2_Channel_8_ID2_TK.zip2
http://www.governmentattic.org/docs/DRM1_DAT2_Channel_9_TT_Op.zip2
http://www.governmentattic.org/docs/DRM1_DAT2_Channel_10_TT_TK.zip2
http://www.governmentattic.org/docs/DRM1_DAT2_Channel_11_ACWO_OP.zip2
http://www.governmentattic.org/docs/DRM1_DAT2_Channel_12_ACWO_TK.zip2
http://www.governmentattic.org/docs/DRM1_DAT2_Channel_13_TT_Op.zip2
http://www.governmentattic.org/docs/DRM1_DAT2_Channel_14_TT_TK.zip2
http://www.governmentattic.org/docs/DRM1_DAT2_Channel_15_AST_Op.zip2
http://www.governmentattic.org/docs/DRM1_DAT2_Channel_16_AST_TK.zip2
http://www.governmentattic.org/docs/DRM1_DAT2_Channel_17_TT_Op.zip2
http://www.governmentattic.org/docs/DRM1_DAT2_Channel_18_TT_TK.zip2
http://www.governmentattic.org/docs/DRM1_DAT2_Channel_19_SD2_OP.zip2
http://www.governmentattic.org/docs/DRM2_DAT1_Channel_20_SD2_TK.zip2
http://www.governmentattic.org/docs/DRM1_DAT2_Channel_21_TT_Op.zip2
http://www.governmentattic.org/docs/DRM1_DAT2_Channel_24_AICC.zip2
http://www.governmentattic.org/docs/DRM3_DAT2_Channel_24_Emerg-AICC.zip2
« Last Edit: April 18, 2008, 02:42:02 pm by Bill St. Clair »
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Re: NORAD Releases Mother Lode of 9/11 Tapes
« Reply #3 on: April 18, 2008, 03:32:47 pm »

Should this be in the 911 sub board?
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Re: NORAD Releases Mother Lode of 9/11 Tapes
« Reply #4 on: April 21, 2008, 01:09:17 pm »

One thing I failed to realize...... :doh:

Are these the true tapes or have they been doctored by the powers that be ?
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Re: NORAD Releases Mother Lode of 9/11 Tapes
« Reply #5 on: April 21, 2008, 02:19:05 pm »

One thing I failed to realize...... :doh:

Are these the true tapes or have they been doctored by the powers that be ?

Or have they been doctored by conspiratoid nutjobs?

You guys should probably just assume, for the sake of convenience, that they're genuine and therefore you'll need to start working on your conspiracy theories to explain why they don't support your current round of conspiracy theories.
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Re: NORAD Releases Mother Lode of 9/11 Tapes
« Reply #6 on: April 23, 2008, 05:52:35 am »

Personally, I have no plan to listen to them. I downloaded one, just to be sure it worked, listened to a minute or two, during which I heard the time over and over and nothing else, then stopped.
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Re: NORAD Releases Mother Lode of 9/11 Tapes
« Reply #7 on: April 23, 2008, 08:29:26 am »

One thing I failed to realize...... :doh:

Are these the true tapes or have they been doctored by the powers that be ?

Or have they been doctored by conspiratoid nutjobs?

You guys should probably just assume, for the sake of convenience, that they're genuine and therefore you'll need to start working on your conspiracy theories to explain why they don't support your current round of conspiracy theories.

      Here's the problem.

      It is as near the truth as you can reasonably expect to get, that the three WTC skyscrapers were brought down by explosives.  There is no other theory that matches explanation to the observables so decisively.  Likewise, it is impossible to explain the damage at the Pentagon by the impact of a Boeing jetliner.  There was no Boeing.

       Unless you want to "force-fit" the theory that bin Laden & Co. handled the demolitions, you are left with the inescapable conclusion that the two airliners were misdirection, intended to confuse people as to the cause of the demolitions.

       Thus, the insertion of the airliners into a practice exercise doesn't tell us very much about how the buildings came down.

       Until the Government is completely open and "up front" about the demolitions, there is little to gain from scrutinizing the peripheral details, interesting as these may be to detail-savants.  The peripheral details may be fundamental to the deceptions, but not to the causes of the demolitions.

       Straightforward application of scientific method.  No "conspiracy theories."

       It simply doesn't matter what people think they "believe."  All that matters is facts, descriptions, explanations and predictions. Dare to use your own intelligence.

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Re: NORAD Releases Mother Lode of 9/11 Tapes
« Reply #8 on: April 25, 2008, 11:25:08 pm »

You guys should probably just assume, for the sake of convenience, that they're genuine and therefore you'll need to start working on your conspiracy theories to explain why they don't support your current round of conspiracy theories.

Interesting... so even a desire to look at the evidence means one is a "conspiracy theorists"?
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Re: NORAD Releases Mother Lode of 9/11 Tapes
« Reply #9 on: April 30, 2008, 12:39:34 am »

Actually, I agree that this thread should be moved to the 9/11 sub-board, preferably in the "after 9/11" section. Any moderator reading here is invited to make that transfer.

Secondly, I'm more or less of the same mindset as Bill, who was kind enough to activate the links provided initially by Secret Six - I'm not likely to listen to these tapes at this time. Why am I not interested enough to listen to them at present moment? Several reasons, but the prime reason is that these tapes are not likely to reveal anything not already pieced together by observant and thoughtful skeptics of the official government story, which is, in my opinioin, the real conspiracy theory.

Additionally, jai-mann's reflection, in which he questions the possibility that the tapes may have been edited or otherwise tampered with, renders this extremely belated release to be less than of instant interest.

Perhaps Khagler may be persuaded to define for us this remarkable term - "conspiratoid nutjobs". Personally, I'm interested in seeing a definition by Khagler of what a "conspiratoid nutjob" might be. I need to know the definition, so I won't accidentally, in my misplaced enthusiasm, morph into one - jeez, I'd hate to be a "conspiratoid nutjob"!  And I would hate also to be one of those whilst not even knowing that I was one! Ack!  So a definition would be helpful....

For Anduril and jack, (and anyone else who may be interested, the science of the entire question of 9/11/2001 is being worked out very meticulously by some very fine minds at a place which is packed with scientists and scholars and thinkers and researchers. That place is called "Scholars for 9/11 Truth and Justice", and they can be found here (among other places) -

http://www.stj911.org/

A place where they post findings is here -

http://www.journalof911studies.com/

A couple of samples from that page are here - (this first one is by Dr. Graeme MacQueen, whom I've met personally and with whom I at times exchange emails. This link is a pdf file, and is a good example of the level of objectivity maintained by the Scholars for 9/11 Truth and Justice... ) -

http://www.journalof911studies.com/volume/200701/MacQueenWaitingforSeven.pdf

This article should be of interest to any reader, if for no other reason than to experience the combined thinking of so many Ph.D's and associates such as Kevin Ryan, the fellow who got fired from his job at Underwriters Laboratories (which had certified the steel used in the construction of the WTC towers), for daring to point out the flaws in the NIST (National Institute for Standards and Technology) report -  (this link also is a pdf file) -

http://www.journalof911studies.com/articles/WTCHighTemp2.pdf

... teaser from that link ....

Extremely high temperatures during the World Trade Center destruction
Steven E. Jones1, Jeffrey Farrer2, Gregory S. Jenkins3, Frank Legge4, James Gourley, Kevin Ryan,
Daniel Farnsworth, and Crockett Grabbe5.
1 S&J Scientific Co., Provo, Utah (EA note: Dr. Steven Jones was formerly a tenured professor of physics at Brigham Young Univ.)
2 Department of Physics and Astronomy, Brigham Young University, Provo, Utah
3 Physics Department, University of Maryland at College Park, Maryland
4 Logical Systems Consulting, Perth, Western Australia
5 Department of Physics, University of Iowa, Iowa City, Iowa

Abstract
In an effort to better understand the conditions that led to complete collapses of the World Trade Center
Towers and WTC 7, we apply scanning-electron-microscope (SEM) and energy dispersive x-ray
spectroscopy (XEDS) methods to analyze the dust generated, with an emphasis on observed micro-spheres
in the WTC dust. The formation of molten spheres with high iron contents along with other species in the
WTC dust required extremely high temperatures. Our results are compared with those of other laboratories.
The temperatures required for the molten sphere-formation and evaporation of materials as observed in the
WTC dust are significantly higher than temperatures associated with the burning of jet fuel and office
materials in the WTC buildings.


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In closing this post, I would like to ask a three-fold question. What on earth was Osama bin Laden's al Qaeda network doing with the same software program that was used by the U.S. Secret Service and CIA? - and - How did al Qaeda come to own and use "real time" software (PROMIS / PTech) that was suitable for the U.S. Intelligence community and which was being used by the Secret Service and the CIA on the morning of 9/11 to inject the fake hijack blips (inserts) onto the radar screens of the FAA and NORAD? - and - Does the U.S. Intelligence community conduct "black operations", or not?

http://www.fromthewilderness.com/free/ww3/012005_ptech_pt1.shtml

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Re: NORAD Releases Mother Lode of 9/11 Tapes
« Reply #10 on: April 30, 2008, 12:01:04 pm »

Well.....all I've got to say about this is that if government never started lying in the first place.......then anything they say wouldn't be suspected of being a lie..........
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Re: NORAD Releases Mother Lode of 9/11 Tapes
« Reply #11 on: April 30, 2008, 12:22:57 pm »

Well.....all I've got to say about this is that if government never started lying in the first place...

But, you don't understand. It's for your own good and the good of the chilluns. Your loco parentis (emphasis on the loco) knows the truth might cause you untold psychic disturbances.
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« Reply #12 on: April 30, 2008, 01:11:29 pm »

Well.....all I've got to say about this is that if government never started lying in the first place.......then anything they say wouldn't be suspected of being a lie..........

Indeed, Zoot! There exists a long list of lies put forth by the U.S. Federal government.

While all governments feel compelled to misrepresent the truth and often will deliberately lie to their subjects/citizens, that old trait of official pathology really got ramped up in our nation when the people allowed the government to create the National Security Act of 1947 which created the CIA, the NSC, and the Black Budget - and effectively granted the Federal government the "legal right" to lie to us all. Operation Paperclip (CIA) in the late 1940s was followed immediately by the UN-sponsored war in Korea, the Gary Powers shoot-down over Russia, Operation MK-ULTRA (CIA), the takedown of the government of Iran (CIA), the takedown of the government of Guatemala (CIA), the secret CIA army (36,000 hired-gun mercenaries) in Laos during the 1950s/early 1960s, the Bay of Pigs invasion of a sovereign nation-state, the assassination of JFK (Warren Commission Report), the Gulf of Tonkin incident, the Pentagon Papers, Watergate, East Timor, the Iran-Contra scandal and CIA-drug-running into this nation, the WTC-1993 attack, Ruby Ridge, Waco, the Oklahoma City bombing, and the attacks of 9/11/2001 - just to name a few - are all now known to have been outright lies promoted by and covered-up by the government/media propaganda tandem. And any time the government gets confronted by angry citizens who demand the truth, the government simply hides behind a veil named "National Security Secrecy".

It's disgusting, immoral, unsatisfactory, and completely inconsistent with the way a truly representative government would administer itself upon its citizens. Transparency in government and accountability are absolutely necessary - but are conspicuously missing in today's America. The absence of transparency and accountability is exactly the cover needed by organized criminals who control the assets of government agencies. That absence of transparency and accountability literally made it possible for Dick Cheney and his cronies (all of whom are working obviously for the New World Order's one-world government) to create the most massive and traumatic black operation ever conducted against any people by their national government, surpassing in violence even the massive lie of the 16th Amendment / IRS.

But you already know all that, Zoot, so I recommend you revisit (if you have not already) that post I made above and click on that link to Indira Singh's interview on the PTech/PROMIS software phenomenon. That one ought to raise the hair on the back of your neck!....

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Re: NORAD Releases Mother Lode of 9/11 Tapes
« Reply #13 on: April 30, 2008, 08:31:21 pm »

Don't trust anyone, not even yourself.
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