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byron mc

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Senate passes spy bill and phone immunity
« on: February 12, 2008, 06:31:49 pm »

"Phone companies that took part in President George W. Bush's warrantless domestic spying program would receive retroactive immunity from lawsuits under a bill passed overwhelmingly on Tuesday by the Democratic-led Senate.

But it was unclear if the Democratic-led House of Representatives would also approve the measure to shield firms from potentially billions of dollars in civil damages."

Senate passes spy bill and phone immunity
Feb 12, 2008 7:12pm EST
http://www.reuters.com/article/topNews/idUSN1223400220080213
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Re: Senate passes spy bill and phone immunity
« Reply #1 on: February 13, 2008, 07:25:20 am »

By playing around with this bill, the sick fact that the Bush-41 Administration acknowledges that the crime was done. And it becomes apparent that corporations complied with the criminal activity of the White House.

Retroactive immunity is a great concept, eh? :)

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Re: Senate passes spy bill and phone immunity
« Reply #2 on: February 13, 2008, 08:27:19 am »

1) Seems this would be illegal, but that seems par for the course for the District of Criminals.

2) Well, we can easily see the Dems will pick up the 'slack' on domestic spying/revocation of privacy and personal liberties, when der Bush Admin leaves in Jan 09.

3) An no, it won't matter whether it's the Rep or Dem that gets elected.  They will continue the trend of working together for our mutual disadvantage all in the name of safety and security. 

Don't you believe it.  Time for  :ph34r:

AuH2O for POTUS.  He's got to be rolling in his grave or smilin' that he doesn't have to deal with this crap anymore...  Just imagine if he had been elected, we likely would not have had the 'Great Society' spend-o-matic programs.  The slippery slope continues...
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Re: Senate passes spy bill and phone immunity
« Reply #3 on: February 13, 2008, 09:39:17 am »


AuH2O for POTUS.  He's got to be rolling in his grave or smilin' that he doesn't have to deal with this crap anymore...  Just imagine if he had been elected, we likely would not have had the 'Great Society' spend-o-matic programs.  The slippery slope continues...

Totally agree with you about AuH2O - I firmly believe that he would have yanked the US out of the UN. That would have been a huge blow for liberty, to be sure. Here is his autobiography, which contains the reasons why I believe he would have got us out of the UN:

With No Apologies
By Senator Barry Goldwater; copyright 1979 by Barry Goldwater; published by William Morrow and Company, Inc.; 105 Madison Ave., New York, NY 10016; ISBN:0-688-03547-7.

And here are two passages from his book which cause me to think he would get us uninvolved with the UN:

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"The C.F.R. is the American branch of a society which originated in England. Internationalistic in viewpoint, the C.F.R., along with the Atlantic Union Movement, and the Atlantic Council of the U.S., believes national boundaries should be obliterated and one-world rule established ... What the Trilaterals truly intend is the creation of a worldwide economic power superior to the political government of the nation-states involved. As managers and creators of the system they will rule the world ... In my view, the Trilateral Commission represents a skillful, coordinated effort to seize control and consolidate the four centers of power: political, monetary, intellectual, and ecclesiastical." (With No Apologies, [1979], Senator Barry Goldwater pp. 128, 284).

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Re: Senate passes spy bill and phone immunity
« Reply #4 on: February 13, 2008, 11:33:29 am »

AuH2O - that's where I started my political action, Phoenix, AZ.

and that brings me to

    Karl Hess (1923–1994) was an American speechwriter, editor, welder,
    motorcycle racer, political philosopher, hippie, atheist, tax resister and
    libertarian activist. His career included stints on both the Republican
    right and the New Left before he became an
anarcho-capitalist theorist.

As a speechwriter for Barry Goldwater, Hess explored ideology and politics and
attracted some public interest. He was widely considered to be the author of
the infamous Goldwater line,

"Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice; moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue"
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Edit in: Oh yeah, and [wiki]Karl Hess[/wiki].
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House puts spy bill on hold and goes on vacation - Prez.' reply
« Reply #5 on: February 15, 2008, 02:46:19 pm »

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"This bill came to the House of Representatives and it was blocked. By blocking this piece of legislation our country is more in danger of an attack," he said

"When they come back from their 12-day recess, the House leaders must understand that the decision they made to block this legislation has made it harder for us to protect you the American people," Bush said.


http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20080215/pl_afp/usbushcongressintelligence_080215150829

ahh...the use of fear as a tactic...again.
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