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debra

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« on: June 04, 2003, 05:34:00 pm »

If you have a public PGP key, please feel free to post it here:

-----BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK-----
Version: PGPfreeware 6.5.8 for non-commercial use <http://www.pgp.com>

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=ggTi
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« Reply #1 on: June 04, 2003, 07:59:55 pm »

Hi Debra!
I like your admin title... Mistress of the Web :)  
Believe it or not, I'm very uninformed when it comes to PGP, and I have no idea what a public PGP key is.  I have something like that at ladylearning@mailvault.com, but I assumed it was for the vault only.
Some years ago I read at several sites that PGP, in it's progressive versions,  was fast becoming less than secure or ideal for sensitive material or email and I just didn't become interested enough to look into it, and lately my paranoia about secure communications has lessened. Perhaps it's naive and foolish but I assume that if anyone REALLY wants to know what I'm blabbing about, they'll find a way around whatever measures I take.  
However, as my screen name suggests, learning is something I engage in daily, so if you think I'm remiss, I'd appreciate any facts you could throw my way.
It's nice to see you posting! ;)

LL    
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« Reply #2 on: June 04, 2003, 09:27:40 pm »

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Hi Debra!
I like your admin title... Mistress of the Web

Thanks - Claire calls me her "webmistress of the dark" so it's kind of a play on that. :)

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Perhaps it's naive and foolish but I assume that if anyone REALLY wants to know what I'm blabbing about, they'll find a way around whatever measures I take.

That's probably true. The way I figure it, though, it adds a slight level of security, and I can at least tie up some of Ashcroft's resources trying to decrypt my jelly recipes.  ;)

Doing Freedom! had some good information on using PGP.  I'll see if I can dig up their article; I think it was called, "So you have PGP. Now what?"  It was pretty good for beginners (it's what I used).

Do you use Windows or another OS?

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It's nice to see you posting!

I'm having a blast - it was so cool of Bark & Elias to put this up!

D.
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« Reply #3 on: June 05, 2003, 01:17:39 pm »

I just added kgpg to KDE so lets see if it works!

-----BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK-----
Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux)
Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org

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« Reply #4 on: June 10, 2003, 01:09:17 am »

Personally I prefer Gnu Privacy Guard. The source code is open for computer nerds to pick apart. I am not sure how good or easy it is for Windows users. YMMV, but I don't have to say that here, right? ;)

-----BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK-----
Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (GNU/Linux)

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« Reply #5 on: June 10, 2003, 06:31:48 am »

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Hi Debra!
I like your admin title... Mistress of the Web :)  
Believe it or not, I'm very uninformed when it comes to PGP, and I have no idea what a public PGP key is.  I have something like that at ladylearning@mailvault.com, but I assumed it was for the vault only.
Some years ago I read at several sites that PGP, in it's progressive versions,  was fast becoming less than secure or ideal for sensitive material or email and I just didn't become interested enough to look into it, and lately my paranoia about secure communications has lessened. Perhaps it's naive and foolish but I assume that if anyone REALLY wants to know what I'm blabbing about, they'll find a way around whatever measures I take.  
However, as my screen name suggests, learning is something I engage in daily, so if you think I'm remiss, I'd appreciate any facts you could throw my way.
It's nice to see you posting! ;)

LL
I"ve also been uninformed on PGP.  I knew it was out there, and the basic concept, but didn't know how to integrate it into my life.  However, I'm currently taking some web/network security courses, and I can say that there is some good value to even simply encryption.

The goal, LL, should not be that you will keep everyone from reading your mail.  That's impossible.  The goal with all security measures, physical and electronic, is to make it so expensive to break the security that they don't want to.

Currently, the problem I have with using PGP is that it is primarily intended for email programs such as Outlook, and not web mail like yahoo.  That's where mailvault is a great idea and I'm really working to move important communications there.  Even a tiny bit of security can go a long way to keep out riff raff.
 
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« Reply #6 on: June 10, 2003, 07:40:03 am »

Here are a couple of Doing Freedom! articles on PGP:

So You Finally Got (Windows) PGP, Now What? by Don Henson
http://doingfreedom.com/gen/1000/ht.winpgpprimer.html

Secure Instant Messaging with other PGP tips by John Michaels
http://doingfreedom.com/gen/0203/scimpgp.html

You can get PGP at http://pgp.com/. There's a free package that just does encryption/decryption, or pay $50 to keep them alive and add better email integration and PGP Disk, which allows you to create encrypted volumes. I use a PGP Disk for my personal stuff. Works great.

The PGP frreeware download link is always hard for me to find. Intentional? Don't know. Anyway, it's at http://www.pgp.com/products/freeware.html

BTW, GPG (Gnu Privacy Guard) and PGP are mostly compatible. As long as you don't use one of the patented encryption algorithms in PGP, GPG will understand it. I don't know all the details, but I have successfully traded encrypted messages between my copy of PGP and another person's GPG.


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« Reply #7 on: June 10, 2003, 05:57:44 pm »

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"ve also been uninformed on PGP. I knew it was out there, and the basic concept, but didn't know how to integrate it into my life. However, I'm currently taking some web/network security courses, and I can say that there is some good value to even simply encryption.

The goal, LL, should not be that you will keep everyone from reading your mail. That's impossible. The goal with all security measures, physical and electronic, is to make it so expensive to break the security that they don't want to.

Wow, Scarmy, I sincerely thought you knew just about everything when it comes to these boxes. And I'm not being cute. I really did.  But your now taking the courses proves my other hunch, if you don't know, and you think you should, you'll find out.  
I've been hesitant to ask for advice or assistance because I know the time constraints most everyone is under and I can usually muddle my way through when and if I reach that critical "need to know" point.  
Yah, I know the part about making it expensive and troublesome.  That at least directs the feds effort toward those they consider high profile.
Besides, if I never reveal all I know, what I do know remains a mystery.  ;)

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« Reply #8 on: June 10, 2003, 05:59:56 pm »

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Here are a couple of Doing Freedom! articles on PGP:

Hi Bill, and thanks for the timely information.  I do believe I'll mosey over there and check it out.
Welcome to the board btw. :)

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« Reply #9 on: June 10, 2003, 06:26:30 pm »

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The goal, LL, should not be that you will keep everyone from reading your mail.  That's impossible.  The goal with all security measures, physical and electronic, is to make it so expensive to break the security that they don't want to.
 
Heh - there was an article on The Onion a long time ago about this. It's not in their archive, more's the pity.

It was basically an interview with a FBI or similar agent begging people to stop encrypting boring stuff. There were some hysterical quotes about, "We're sick of spending all this time decrypting only to read about your aunt's illness. If it's not a plot, don't encrypt it - please!"  :D

Wish I had kept a copy.    
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« Reply #10 on: June 10, 2003, 06:37:32 pm »

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"We're sick of spending all this time decrypting only to read about your aunt's illness. If it's not a plot, don't encrypt it - please!"

What a hoot!  That's priceless.  Poor overworked buggers.   :P

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« Reply #11 on: June 10, 2003, 07:06:59 pm »

Found it! Found it!

Only it was on Satirewire, not the Onion, and it was hackers, not Fibbies. Ah well - memory is the first thing to go, they say.

http://www.satirewire.com/news/aug02/encryption.shtml

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"Maybe you think hacking coded messages is simple, but it's not — well, except for the Microsoft Outlook ones," said Haxor. "The rest of it is a pain in the backdoor. So here's a tip: if you encrypt just because you want to keep your personal information 'secret,' but all you're encrypting is blather about your stupid promotion or a recipe for fruit salad, guess what? Your secret's already out. You're dull."

"Please, keep it to yourself and stop wasting our time," he added.

Instead, Haxor said, people should only encrypt if they are going to send information such as passwords, credit card numbers, blueprints for an unreleased product, or confidential sales figures. Barring that, he advised, "at least give us something revealing, like you slept with your boss's wife, or his Airedale."

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« Reply #12 on: June 10, 2003, 07:16:55 pm »

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Ah well - memory is the first thing to go, they say.

I'll have to remember that one *sigh*  :huh:
Hey, I just noticed it says "chatter" under my name and avatar.... I wonder why?  :lol:
I can't wait to see if "scatterbrained incessant chatter" comes up soon.... hehehe

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« Reply #13 on: June 10, 2003, 11:35:23 pm »

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Hey, I just noticed it says "chatter" under my name and avatar.... I wonder why?  :lol:
I can't wait to see if "scatterbrained incessant chatter" comes up soon.... hehehe
 
I believe it has to do with the number of posts. At one point, you'll become a "Keyboard Revolutionary," among other titles.  :lol:  
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« Reply #14 on: June 11, 2003, 12:21:54 am »

Here's mine:

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And Tomlinson took up the tale and spoke of his good in life.
"O this I have read in a book," he said, "and that was told to me,
"And this I have thought that another man thought of a Prince in Muscovy."
The good souls flocked like homing doves and bade him clear the path,
And Peter twirled the jangling Keys in weariness and wrath.
"Ye have read, ye have heard, ye have thought," he said, "and the tale is yet to run:
"By the worth of the body that once ye had, give answer—what ha' ye done?"
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