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Windoze updates
« on: February 28, 2007, 02:05:37 pm »

« Last Edit: October 06, 2007, 04:12:52 pm by prometheus »
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Re: Windoze updates
« Reply #1 on: February 28, 2007, 04:32:21 pm »

Ask 10 people and you likely will receive 11 opinions.

Do you need to update? Probably not.

I have been using NT4 Workstation for 10 years now. I never updated to W2K, XP, and certainly I have no intentions to update to the Draconian Vista. I have tinkered with GNU/Linux for five years or so, but my primary box remains old faithful. Of course, in the eyes of the Microsoft psychologists and fan-boys, NT4 is obsolete and therefore, by simple decree, a useless operating system. According to popular belief, I am supposed to be ashamed and embarrassed that I run such an "old" operating system. I'm not.

I like "old" NT4 because that was the last of the benign and innocuous operating systems delivered by the Microsoft people. After I learned how to remove IE, ActiveX, scripting, and Outlook from my box, my box has always been rock stable. Although usually known as a terrible operating to support multi-media, I have installed all the necessary software to provide me what I need in that area. And one thing I have yet to find with any operating system, including GNU/Linux distros, is how incredibly fast NT4 is on my aging hardware.

Point being, I have not updated any direct Windows software in, oh, 7 years or so when the last service pack (6a) rolled out. I haven't visited the Microsoft Update web site in many years. I can't anyway because I do not have IE and ActiveX installed.

As a conversation piece, I still maintain my old Windows for Workgroups 3.11 partition that I transferred from my old 486 to my current box. Runs like a champ and on a "mere" 400 MHz K6-III+ CPU, is the fastest operating system I know. The thing is almost instantaneous everywhere. I still have Microsoft Office 6.0 installed there (I use Office 97 in NT4). All still very useful to somebody who has no computer. I used to use that OS solely to connect to the web. Obsolete? Ha.

With that said, several years ago I helped a brother with his then new computer with XP SP1 preinstalled. After I configured the software firewall I installed for him (Kerio 2.15, which is what I continue to use), I instructed him to never update Windows. He never has and continues to run XP with only SP1. After he learned the hard lesson of not downloading any file that looks delicious or fun, he has since had a solid stable box to use. And he never deals with the additional nonsense that the Microsoft people have added to all the XP service packs since SP1.

Using a good firewall, avoiding the temptation to download every piece of software on the web, and surfing the web understanding how and when to use JavaScript, then people eliminate almost all of the potential for trouble. I rarely enable JavaScript in my browsers and I am certain that avoids a significant number of problems because people designing malicious or ill-conceived web sites cannot take control of my browser, and hence cannot control my box. Of course, with IE, ActiveX, and scripting not installed, I further reduce access to my box.

I have some essays and how-tos at my computer web site regarding dual booting. You might want to browse. Do know that sometimes dual booting is a PITA. My primary box is set up for several operating systems, and I dual boot into Slackware as needed, but usually when I want to use GNU/Linux I power up my second box, which is networked to my first. I received the second box as a hand-me down gift, so I don't complain.

I have no idea about your computer experience, so if all of this is dry and old news then please forgive me. ;)
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Re: Windoze updates
« Reply #2 on: March 07, 2007, 11:01:12 am »

What are you running on that anyway, XP?
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Re: Windoze updates
« Reply #3 on: March 07, 2007, 01:52:32 pm »

I never update my XP.

I used to, until I realized it was screwing everything up (resetting things to defualt etc etc) and was just causing general frustration.
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Re: Windoze updates
« Reply #4 on: March 07, 2007, 03:26:22 pm »

I have no idea about your computer experience, so if all of this is dry and old news then please forgive me. ;)

[glazed over dumb-founded look]  I now know how my wife feels when my buddie and I talk about 350/454, tuned port/TBI, NP205/NP241, dana 20 twin stick/dana 18, tapered roller bearing dana 60's/ball joint dana 60's etc, etc... [/glazed over dumb-founded look]

I better not close the auction on Jac until after he helps me out, OTOH he might load something that will send porn to DHS.   :thinking:

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