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RagnarDanneskjold

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Got gold?
« Reply #60 on: July 21, 2004, 04:25:32 pm »

EconGeek @ Jul 20 2004, 05:31 PM
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I'd like to suggest everyone here read Rothbards "What has the government done with our money?".

Some more very good reading about "our" money:
What Is A "Dollar"? An Historical Analysis Of The Fundamental Question In Monetary Policy by Edwin Vieira, Jr.
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from the Foreword
Today, all thinking, informed Americans know their country is in trouble. Many haven't a clue as to what went wrong with their government, while others can recite a litany of reasons for their country's distress. Of course, no one reason is paramount; but surely a debased, corrupt, and inflationary monetary system must be placed near the top of the list of causes of America's woes.

What To Do About It?

This Monograph presents, in irrefutable fashion, the legal and economic history of the "dollar,” and of the "dollar's" role in America's monetary system, as originally devised by the Founding Fathers. It also analyzes the Coinage Act of 1792, signed into law by President Washington, which put into effect the monetary system the Founders had previously outlined in the Constitution.

This system helped make the United States "dollar" the safest, most sought-after currency in the world, leading to the well-known saying "sound as a dollar.” However, in 1913, Congress - in an unconstitutional act - relinquished its constitutional power and duty to "coin Money and regulate the Value thereof" to a private banking cartel, the Federal Reserve System.


and: Why Does The United States Need Constitutional Money? Six Questions On Monetary Reform By Edwin Vieira, Jr.
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This Monograph asks and answers six of the most important questions concerning America's monetary system.
1. What is the economic role of money?
2. Why is the relationship between money and government important?
3. Why is the Constitution important to money and banking?
4. What powers over money and banking does the Constitution delegate to the government?
5. Why should constitutional monetary and banking reform be an important issue today?
6. Why should Americans demand restoration of the constitutional systems of money and banking?



Actually, there is a lot of good info at the FAME.ORG reading list.
 
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Got gold?
« Reply #61 on: July 15, 2005, 09:51:44 am »

Gold down to $420..418

Silver to $6.97..6.92
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« Reply #62 on: July 16, 2005, 07:02:11 am »

Gold and silver down, but those who bought in early May 2004, as discussed on page 3 of this thread, are still ahead 10-11%.

This pattern will almost certainly repeat.  Time to buy.

 
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« Reply #63 on: July 18, 2005, 01:17:33 am »

I started buying small amounts of gold when it was $330 an ounce. I'm not particularly woried daily fluctations.  ;)

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Re: Got gold?
« Reply #64 on: September 03, 2005, 09:20:52 am »

Nonya.
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Re: Got gold?
« Reply #65 on: September 03, 2005, 11:44:14 am »

Question for you guys...

I'd like to buy some gold and/or silver bullion, but I don't want to buy online. What kind of stores sell it locally? Would I find it in small (not chain) jewelry stores? Antique/collector stores??

Coin stores, usually (and not just for gold & silver coins, but for bars and rounds as well). Some pawn shops also deal in metal.
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Re: Got gold?
« Reply #66 on: September 04, 2005, 07:13:11 pm »

What is the typical spot price for buying and selling bullion and non-numismatic gold coins?

What is the typical spot price for buying and selling numismatic gold coins?

Do coin dealers bat an eye when buying and selling in FRNs? For example, 10 gold coins at $400/coin would be $4,000 (FRNs), minus the spot price. Do such exchanges create paper trails?

I've gone through this thread and did not find any answers and I don't know how this thread has changed because of recent legislation.
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Re: Got gold?
« Reply #67 on: September 05, 2005, 12:24:30 pm »

The spot price varies whenever the commodities markets are open.  I usually get my prices from Kitco or from here  http://www.golddealer.com/  That link also includes a good tutorial about buying bullion as well as numismatic coins.  Their prices on bullion are always competitve, often beating the local coin shops slightly.  They also discuss in one of the tutorials what the FRN and other limits are before any reporting to Uncle Sam is required.

The local shops hereabouts PREFER FRNs to any other form of payment.  In fact,  some will only accept FRNs.  All their prices vary by a dollar or two per ounce (gold) and a few pennies per ounce (silver).  I simply chose to do business with the store with the friendliest staff.
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Re: Got gold?
« Reply #68 on: September 05, 2005, 03:41:26 pm »

What is the typical spot price for buying and selling bullion and non-numismatic gold coins?
Depends on the dealer and sometimes on the quantity. My dealers listed premium is $0.50/oz. for silver bullion @50 oz+ the premium is $10.00 = $0.25/oz. over the first 50 oz. and 100+ oz is negotiable. The premium per oz of gold bullion is $5  and the premium at 10 oz+ is negotiable.

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What is the typical spot price for buying and selling numismatic gold coins?
check www.kitco.com daily for the current spot prices on silver, gold, platinum, palladium and rhodium. The dealer usually has these quotes online or are obtained with a phone call at the time of sale. The kitco chart looks like this:

In fact, if we could persuade the admins, this chart could be posted here at TCF daily. It's a javascript critter, completely self-updating and functions as a link to kitco. An admin could go to this link and get the permission and code to post a chart in the TCF header or wherever the admin thought most appropriate:
http://www.kitconet.com/indexes.html


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Do coin dealers bat an eye when buying and selling in FRNs? For example, 10 gold coins at $400/coin would be $4,000 (FRNs), minus the spot price. Do such exchanges create paper trails?
Dealers do not bat an eye at such sales. However, the government does get antsy and upset when there are "large" transfers of FRNs. Reporting kicks in at $5000+ dollars. Beware! State laws DO vary. Check with your dealer first.


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Re: Got gold?
« Reply #69 on: September 05, 2005, 06:59:37 pm »

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In fact, if we could persuade the admins, this chart could be posted here at TCF daily.

That's called "advertising".....and folks "pay" other folks to do that......some pretty serious money sometimes.......

Wonder how much Kitco would "pay" for this?

Wonder if www.barnyard-porn.com would pay more than that?

You really wanna' start opening such doors?
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Re: Got gold?
« Reply #70 on: September 05, 2005, 11:03:08 pm »

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I usually get my prices from Kitco or from here  http://www.golddealer.com/

Looks like I'll have to do some online reading some day---. Thanks.
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Re: Got gold?
« Reply #71 on: September 06, 2005, 06:09:06 am »

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In fact, if we could persuade the admins, this chart could be posted here at TCF daily.

That's called "advertising".....and folks "pay" other folks to do that......some pretty serious money sometimes.......

Wonder how much Kitco would "pay" for this?

Wonder if www.barnyard-porn.com would pay more than that?

You really wanna' start opening such doors?

What advertising? It's simply a handy reference for the spot price of gold AND a link to the site for those who have interest in the current price of commodities, gold lease rates, the current avg's onin equities markets, market commentaries, oh yes, they also offer to buy or sell gold or silver. Not one damned thing is being sold or even offered for sale by the posting of the chart. No such activity is promoted until you actually go to the kitco site Yes, it does have the Kitco name on it and it does function as a link. Does that mean you're being urged to buy something? All the chart does is give the current price of gold and it functions as a link to further information. You don't have to click on it. And if the chart is so damned offensive to you you could just avert your eyes. There are others here who are interested in information about gold and I thought they might appreciate the handy info.

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Re: Got gold?
« Reply #72 on: September 06, 2005, 10:27:24 am »

*LMAO*....ahh a play on words substituting "convenience" for "advertising"....

This place, if you hadn't noticed this place  is  unique in that it "doesn't" wear a uniform, and the only agenda that it promotes is one of freedom.
Start sticking "conveniences/advertising" all over the place and it will then wear a uniform, and not only just any uniform, but one promoting products offered by some firm while ignoring similiar products offered by others, and thus one will have willingly joined into assocations with those firms and thus promote "their" agenda.

Quite frankly all the "gold bugs" here probably already check the spot at kitco and other places on a daily basis.......now shall we force other folks into checking the spot of some product or commodity that they very well could have "no" interest in for the priviledge of reading "content" here?

Chances are.....particularly for our dial-up readers.....this place could be painfully slow to load already....now do we want to add a bit more time to that under the handy label of "convenience"?

Convenient for who?........you?.....what about other folks?......is it a convenience, or merely an annoyance?
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Re: Got gold?
« Reply #73 on: September 27, 2007, 03:21:42 pm »

Still noting...

Gold

Jan '07 $620
Sep '07 $740

at kitco charts
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Re: Got gold?
« Reply #74 on: September 30, 2007, 01:34:12 pm »

Download the desktop program from Kitco here and you can have up-to-date precious metal quotes in your status tray with no advertising...

http://kcast.kitco.com/
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