Elias,
One thought I had, just to throw it out there and break the ice.
To be most effective, whatever message/method you use, has to go viral. TV/cable/youtube whatever. Perhaps one to three minutes of a very funny liberty fighter telling great jokes that either lampooned the state or promoted freedom. There are enough good writers on this forum to come up with that material but of course you would need a personality.
Just throwing thoughts Bro.
Let's start something and see if we can help is grow. We have discussed a series of uncomfortable facts regarding the militarization of our police in America, the surveillance state's crimes against the American people, and other aspects of what the U.S. Army called in 1980 "MindWar".
I am noting that the individual mind as well as the group mind (collective consciousness of the USA population) is now in the crosshairs of a government hell-bent on controlling our lives in every minute detail. Fedgov wants to be sure it knows what you've been thinking, and what you will most likely think next. That is all covered in the initial thread called "MindWar".
So I am wanting to collect up a group of hard-hitting liberty fighters, of the Psy-Op sort, who can help me form a Resistance to this MindWar idiocy. I'm open to ideas, but am also discerning and my sixth sense will cause me to accept some and reject other ideas submitted, so don't take anything personal if I do not like something, or if I do. Let your ideas spring onto this board and thereby help us form the Resistance. Once we think we know what we want to do, we'll get something organized.
I would like to introduce one of my friends who has just joined TMM. Her name is Cyrellys, and I'm especially hoping she will help me motivate a "Guerrilla Grrls" Regiment of Psy-Op ladies who are sharp as tacks and keen on liberty and have the guts to fight tyranny face to face. "Cy" is a tireless liberty fighter in her own right, and she brings with her some interesting new perspectives I've not seen floating around these forum boards. ;)
Cy, welcome to TMM and especially welcome to the MindWar Resistance project, which I hope you'll help me organize, eh? ;)
Salute!
Elias
Elias, I strongly advise that anyone who wants to understand why some individuals in society
damage society without concern for the consequences thoroughly read
Snakes In Suits - When Psychopaths Go To Work
http://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/snakes-in-suits-paul-babiak/1100609654?ean=9780061147890
It is critical for liberty-minded individuals to understand that there are a few people whose malevolent tendencies
are pathological - you can't help them, you can't cure them, ...
To quote a movie - "There are some people you just can't reach"
When you delve into the mind war you'll find yourself confronted with two choices...either getting very angry, or remaining open-minded and thoughtful.
When you delve into the mind war you'll find yourself confronted with two choices...either getting very angry, or remaining open-minded and thoughtful.
You left out curling up into fetal position and wishing it wasn't true.
When you delve into the mind war you'll find yourself confronted with two choices...either getting very angry, or remaining open-minded and thoughtful.
Alright, so what would motivate each of you here to participate in Elias's project on the mindwar?
I'm not going to insist it be all ladies. I think there is just as much potential to be found among men too. At this point in the game it is important to find out if there is anyone out there still willing to put up a fight. So let's start there.
Who yet carries a sword? Any takers?
Not necessarily. We're talking about using our MINDS. I am definitely willing to use mine, and don't mind saying so on a public forum. :laugh:Alright, so what would motivate each of you here to participate in Elias's project on the mindwar?
I'm not going to insist it be all ladies. I think there is just as much potential to be found among men too. At this point in the game it is important to find out if there is anyone out there still willing to put up a fight. So let's start there.
Who yet carries a sword? Any takers?
Isn't that kind of blowing your OpSec, talking about what you have and are willing to use, on a public forum?
Alright, so what would motivate each of you here to participate in Elias's project on the mindwar?
I'm not going to insist it be all ladies. I think there is just as much potential to be found among men too. At this point in the game it is important to find out if there is anyone out there still willing to put up a fight. So let's start there.
Who yet carries a sword? Any takers?
Isn't that kind of blowing your OpSec, talking about what you have and are willing to use, on a public forum?
QuoteWhen you delve into the mind war you'll find yourself confronted with two choices...either getting very angry, or remaining open-minded and thoughtful.
Interesting. My "awakening" started as a *spiritual* one then it morphed into a *poltical* one. There are a lot of rabbit holes to fall into out there! I would liken the (poltical awakening) process as the 7 stages of grief, if you will. I have often thought that folks who are waking up from the Matrix pod need to have a coach; similar to what LSD users need when they're having a bad trip. I could really have used one to help calm me down...
Not necessarily. We're talking about using our MINDS. I am definitely willing to use mine, and don't mind saying so on a public forum. :laugh:Alright, so what would motivate each of you here to participate in Elias's project on the mindwar?
I'm not going to insist it be all ladies. I think there is just as much potential to be found among men too. At this point in the game it is important to find out if there is anyone out there still willing to put up a fight. So let's start there.
Who yet carries a sword? Any takers?
Isn't that kind of blowing your OpSec, talking about what you have and are willing to use, on a public forum?
Cy- What are we talking about here? What will participation entail?
Same here and my understanding is, that this is the purpose of this forum.
Tahn , look I have no ill will towards those who still wish to work within the system , nor with those who push the limits of said system in the search for positive results.
The rub comes when and individual's freedom of choice to participate or not participate is abrogated by social pressure or the attempted coercion of others , however subtle that may be. You've seen an example of same here between Cy and I wherein she not only failed to understand my stance as regards the rights accorded to every human being she also misread quite badly my stance as regards the Constitution , thus drawing castigation ,innuendo and judgementalism from her quarter.
This of course sets up an adversarial scenario wherein she'll never be able to " bring the people together " , it's also quite like the various aspects of " do what I tell you 'cause I tell you." endorsed and practiced by the masters already in control.
See here's the rub..........our personal rights are a birthright , you are BORN with those rights. Sure they may be eroded right from the jump , they may be taken away or abused ( and often are)......BUT you are BORN with those rights.
They are not subject to the whims of man except within the context of the aforementioned abuses , they are not changed by pen put to paper nor the documents created , The Articles of The Confederation , the Constitution , the Bill of Rights etc.etc.through history are a support structure for those inborn ,inalienable human rights.
Not the other way around , support the Foundation , the Paper blowing in the breeze on top of it isn't the real important part.
I have given immense energy over a 15-year period to steering the herd, but the team of professional showmen had a more attractive act for most of the audience. I still put some effort into scattering leaflets and seeds of thought as I fly over, but know few will be turned by me. The lesson is: give the receptive ones more of my time than the adamantly ignorant.
As the masses stampede over the cliff, more will wake up. Sadly too late for many of them, but fortunately for us the survivors will be wholesale-enthusiastic FOR us ad AGAINST our common enemy at that time.
We do need to pace ourselves and be ready for that time.
and before the internet there were newsletters and booksellers/publishers like Loompanics. The incremental destruction of liberty was there too, if you were paying attention.
I have given immense energy over a 15-year period to steering the herd, but the team of professional showmen had a more attractive act for most of the audience. I still put some effort into scattering leaflets and seeds of thought as I fly over, but know few will be turned by me. The lesson is: give the receptive ones more of my time than the adamantly ignorant.
As the masses stampede over the cliff, more will wake up. Sadly too late for many of them, but fortunately for us the survivors will be wholesale-enthusiastic FOR us ad AGAINST our common enemy at that time.
We do need to pace ourselves and be ready for that time.
And there you have it folks ( see above). Far from having " quit trying" I nowadays just put my efforts into those individuals who HAVE already " awoken" , for when the Crunch comes ( and make NO mistake it IS coming.) those will be the folks that are as Slide refered to above.
I'd rather concentrate my efforts on those folks who stand a fighting chance of being around after the coming storm.
Will I feel a degree of empathy/sympathy for the Lemmings racing off the cliff? Of course I will , I *am* still human after all ( though certain folks here may dispute that.That said , you can't save Lemmings that are bound to the herd-mass.
I have given immense energy over a 15-year period to steering the herd, but the team of professional showmen had a more attractive act for most of the audience.
I still put some effort into scattering leaflets and seeds of thought as I fly over, but know few will be turned by me. The lesson is: give the receptive ones more of my time than the adamantly ignorant.
I've taken my hands off the brakes. I'm pushing from behind now... if anyone looks awake, and I can, I'll gladly pull them out of the handbasket to hell. Everyone else deserves the flames their blind belief has earned them.
Re transforming our rage:
-- It is in bringing the rage of what hurts you personally into the world that you have the power to bring neart, this active spirituality, out into the world. -- from a speech by Nuala Ahern, Irish member of the European Parliament.
I think that she is referring to "ka" (for those that read Stephen King), or "ki" for those that have studied martial arts or have watched any Dragon Ball. :mellow:Re transforming our rage:
-- It is in bringing the rage of what hurts you personally into the world that you have the power to bring neart, this active spirituality, out into the world. -- from a speech by Nuala Ahern, Irish member of the European Parliament.
Neart = Power ?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aCOLXx8dPrE
I think that she is referring to "ka" (for those that read Stephen King), or "ki" for those that have studied martial arts or have watched any Dragon Ball. :mellow:Re transforming our rage:
-- It is in bringing the rage of what hurts you personally into the world that you have the power to bring neart, this active spirituality, out into the world. -- from a speech by Nuala Ahern, Irish member of the European Parliament.
Neart = Power ?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aCOLXx8dPrE
WRT beginnings and knowing your backstory; 'help them remember who they are'...
This is sometimes called Mediating the Primal.
A culture that doesn't have...a shaman, that doesn't therefore have access to the potencies of the beginning, is in trouble. -- John Moriarty, Turtle Was Gone a Long Time
The ability to access the primal powers of life, to connect with them and mediate them, is the historical task of the shaman or "land sovereign". Today we use the term Mediator or Facilitator. Today most of us have forgotten to honor (or even recognize) the value of primal powers and historical beginnings of life. Life is merely the stream of existence in which each of us swims. We move along this stream largely unaware of the larger reality in which we are involved.
We can ignore the potency of who we are or we can allow it to revitalize our selves. Most of us can recite our history but how many truly drink from the immortal draught?
Cy
Yup. I did. That's why I included the Dragon Ball reference. :mellow: I doubt that you have seen any of it. Not to sound sexist, but it's more of a guy show (anime).I think that she is referring to "ka" (for those that read Stephen King), or "ki" for those that have studied martial arts or have watched any Dragon Ball. :mellow:Re transforming our rage:
-- It is in bringing the rage of what hurts you personally into the world that you have the power to bring neart, this active spirituality, out into the world. -- from a speech by Nuala Ahern, Irish member of the European Parliament.
Neart = Power ?
Ki as known with the oriental tradition is an accurate definition and use but also think of it in terms beyond just the body as part of a fundamental component of the universe.
Yup. I did. That's why I included the Dragon Ball reference. :mellow: I doubt that you have seen any of it. Not to sound sexist, but it's more of a guy show (anime).I think that she is referring to "ka" (for those that read Stephen King), or "ki" for those that have studied martial arts or have watched any Dragon Ball. :mellow:Re transforming our rage:
-- It is in bringing the rage of what hurts you personally into the world that you have the power to bring neart, this active spirituality, out into the world. -- from a speech by Nuala Ahern, Irish member of the European Parliament.
Neart = Power ?
Ki as known with the oriental tradition is an accurate definition and use but also think of it in terms beyond just the body as part of a fundamental component of the universe.
(http://sd.keepcalm-o-matic.co.uk/i/keep-calm-and-spirit-bomb-13.png)
sexism, racism, discrimination do not exsist. They are nothing more than beliefs. We all should be allowed to have our beliefs without having to apologize for our views, thoughts, beliefs. It' s amazing how the government loves to codify and indoctrinate us based on our beliefs. sticks and stones man, sticks and stones !
Just in response to diablos comment about not wanting to be viewed as sexist for his dragonball z comment... It seemed like a natural fit, but that is just one individuals take on the whole shebang !I understood your sentiments.
Just in response to diablos comment about not wanting to be viewed as sexist for his dragonball z comment... It seemed like a natural fit, but that is just one individuals take on the whole shebang !
why do you need anybody? somebody has to hold your little hand, or what? This sort of thing far too often leads to people having trouble with the cops, so beware. You are going to NEED that 'sixth sense", most likely.
why do you need anybody? somebody has to hold your little hand, or what? This sort of thing far too often leads to people having trouble with the cops, so beware. You are going to NEED that 'sixth sense", most likely.
Go beat your chest in another thread , god knows that you've shit on about every thread within the forum by now. Of course that's your usual modus operandi.
Instead of naming the boards of a survival or firearms orientation you've been thrown off of since the late '90s lets just name one you *haven't* been tossed off of.
So you run up on this thread where folks are now getting down to a fruitful discussion ( one that's far , far over your head) and decide to f*** it up too.............fine I'll just turn your ass back over to the script kiddies over towards /b/.....should keep you busy for a while...........AGAIN.
We're losing whole generations as far as the ability to think critically.
I survived the indoctrination. My kids will too.We're losing whole generations as far as the ability to think critically.
Parts of generations, probably, but not all of them by any means. I know about 100 homeschooled young folks, from ages 2 to 20, and they can most certainly think critically... And I'm very sure there are a lot more of them. I'm sure there are a number of children who manage to see the truth in spite of government schooling. I think a number of us survived that conditioning - so can others.
Quality, not quantity. No way to save the world. Help as many as you can, obviously, but don't worry about the lemmings going off the cliffs.
the youth and children however are worth making an attempt , the educational , moral and ethical investment will pay large dividends down the road.......at least I feel it will , could be wrong though.
These...........( credit to Cyr) , the core values inherent in 'most every Warrior culture the world 'round , some of whom were highly developed as regards societal structures. Examine if you will the similiarities between actual application of the concepts of Bushido and the similar concepts applied within the structure of the Celtic and or Nordic tribes , or many others for that matter.
But I digress , the above is a different discussion for a different time.
Insofar as " Mindwar" , perhaps the first hurdle is the fact that the majority of JQP is unaware of when and how they are being gamed. And quite frankly they'd rather remain blissfully unaware rather than face up to the manipulation present in their everyday lives.
I seriously doubt that there is a single individual present here that hasn't faced the " you're wearing a tinfoil hat , dude!" scenario at some point when these subjects have been broached with the unknowing.
A tangent consideration , though y'all may think I'm out of my tiny little mind , is the relatively constant fomentation of the divisions within our society. It serves the PTB purpose to have folks at each others throats over arbitrary issues such as religion , race , ideology , party affiliation etc.etc.
How to counter that particular aspect of the MindWar campaign currently being conducted upon the unsuspecting public is a huge undertaking.
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The values surrounding the focus include:
Honor (a "face" value of the individual to the community sometimes called "reputation", as well as the product of exercise of moral code and authority)
Loyalty (steadfastness, inalienable property, authentic, unchangeable, dependable)
Hospitality (altruistic, approachability, ability to deal with strangers without hostility)
Justice (coair - in accordance with truth: truth being a cosmic indisputable rightness which human behavior must seek to imitate; also "properly ruled", in conformity with right)
Courage (to measure to reckon, to maintain control over one's emotional mood; a certain hardness or bloodthirstyness with regard to strength in endurance of Character; spirit and mettle)
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A website as a repository of knowledge would be an almost crucial component , 'course it would have to be guerillaed up the hit rankings based on keywords such as freedom , Libertarianism , liberty.
Here's one of the ways I try to fight the mental war: commenting on news articles. Perhaps some of you folks do so as well. Most newspapers have an online version where readers can post comments. Example:
http://www.news-herald.com/opinion/20150423/editorial-dont-mess-with-concealed-carry-law
I, and another person, have posted comments on this editorial which opposes a Vermont-style carry bill in Ohio. On this newspaper site, you can use an anonymous nom de guerre. Yes, the paper does have to approve the comment, but they did post these.
Who knows what the results might be, but maybe comments like these will get some people thinking.
Still quite a bit of mental capability setting on the sidelines lurking , not to mention a few that are no longer present that it might be beneficial to drag back for this project.
If the goal is "push a website up the hit rankings" count me out.
Disagree , the actual goal is to disseminate the information in a form that folks can actually " connect the dots" and come to some conclusions themselves.
If the hypothetical website comes up on the first page of results when someone googles " freedom" .............or liberty , libertarianism etc.then the information may have a wider degree of dispersal.
If the goal is "push a website up the hit rankings" count me out.
Disagree , the actual goal is to disseminate the information in a form that folks can actually " connect the dots" and come to some conclusions themselves.
If the hypothetical website comes up on the first page of results when someone googles " freedom" .............or liberty , libertarianism etc.then the information may have a wider degree of dispersal.
"the actual goal is to disseminate the information in a form that folks can actually " connect the dots"
I agree. At the same time, my caveat: every person who is awake and aware perceives the paradigm somewhat differently.
For example. Some people equate some of the factions within the NWO crowd with zionism. Others do not, and may see them in different terms such as a variety of nazi international, british or european banking interests, deep state'rs involved in the contact paradigm and on down the line. So the line of dots is going to have variations based on perceptive position and knowledge base from which that perception takes place. This is why I suggested a library where the various patterns may co-exist with their respective supporting points AND they may reside for the purpose of comparing notes and allow for perceptional evolution. As new information becomes available the various perception of paradigm patterns would be free to evolve and those actors out there who are making decisions in the face of paradigm issues or problems may draw their own conclusions based on their own review and take on the situation. IN other words there is only presentation and no dictating of what they take away. For example: Someone who is libertarian and operates only with classical sources is not going to perceive the paradigm situation in the same light as someone coming out of USAPs or from the several research groups operated by either Richard Dolan or Jim Mars or singular investigators like Joseph Farrell. We don't solve the problem of presenting or allowing for information if there is not room for the various versions of truth. If we cannot do that then there is probably little point in doing any of it BECAUSE we cannot make the interconnections with each other and be united on our commonalities in the face of abject tyranny because our egos cannot allow for variances in views and knowledge bases.
What happens if we cannot unite on the shield wall? Tyranny then does what it has always done...it continues to pick us off one by one. And it wins. The factionalization I see in the liberty community at this time is the noose that will hang every single one of us. It already does irreparable harm to the over-all cause in the eyes of the uninformed general population. IT makes everyone look bad because they don't see the narratives at all (those get lost in the infighting). They only see the knock-down, drag-out, bar room brawls that rage across the net.
What is that definition of insanity...“The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again, but expecting different results”
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I also agree with SaG about the leadership. It is an astute tactic. As long as we are not involved in a crisis we have the luxury of the leadership exchange hands to allow the strengths of each to match the respective problem. Might as well take advantage of that as long as we can!
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Now here is my next question, what does this group believe should be done when it comes to any need of real-time actors when the work they are involved in face aspects of the mindwar?
For example (and not set in stone!): the counter Jade Helm investigators running into the narratives presented by active duty mil depicting a different conclusion than the evidence being spot-lighted by the investigators? Is this something the group could address in the mind war? What about other pre-conflict needs that might be able to help prevent open conflict? OR worst case scenario in the event of open conflict? Mindwar doesn't cease just because open conflict erupts. We know this from examples in WWII.
Cy
Actually, if the more religious folk needed a practical "word" to use for the legal systems and other tyrannical constructs encroaching upon our lives from hidden (the latin word being "ocultus" and that being its original nuance in religious inquisition as well) meanings and hidden purposes, the word you're looking for is....
Sorcery. The legal systems of non living (read: soulless) constructs being built which have more rights and more power than living men and women are indeed nothing more than the daemons of old. Evil sorcerers have built their very own godlike beings, known as nation states, corporations, and other constructs built of nothing but the faith of those they tyrannize and those used to tyrannize.
The only reason this "sorcery" works, is the same as ever. FAITH. Nothing holds the invisible house of cards and false hopes up high on its foundation of hot air, than that. FAITH. BLIND FAITH.
If men were to be men, not stupid cattle, they'd pay attention, and the rebellion would be complete with belly laughs from all, and a few persistent bad guys getting shot instead of laughed at, when they keep trying to lay hands on folks who want "no touchy."
But until BLIND FAITH is eradicated and men grasp at their true birthright... that being KNOWLEDGE and real FAITH (faith in that which is and that which can be, not that which isn't and never was) all will remain mired in misery and sorrow.
Damn, I gotta stop talkin' like a preacher, eh?
Ki as known with the oriental tradition is an accurate definition and use but also think of it in terms beyond just the body as part of a fundamental component of the universe.Try this exercise:
What about a Wiki type format for the information we have to present to the public?I second that. Have you made one? Where is it?
Cyrellys Geibhendach, this morning on The Covert Report with Susan Lindauer host discussing Yellowstone helium 6 scenario, Jade Helm 15, and Operationalize CONUS. http://truthfrequencyradio.com/the-covert-report-w-susan-lindauer-51960/
No threats were made.
Pages that link to "Wolfekipedia" seems to be empty. That needs work.
I am trying to define systems that turn psychological factors OFF in order to prevent time being wasted trying to influence systems psychologically that were disconnected from that influence a long time ago. For instance, I think trying to influence the global warming crowd is a lost cause.
No threats were made.
Pages that link to "Wolfekipedia" seems to be empty. That needs work.
I am trying to define systems that turn psychological factors OFF in order to prevent time being wasted trying to influence systems psychologically that were disconnected from that influence a long time ago. For instance, I think trying to influence the global warming crowd is a lost cause.
Bullshit , you tried that " when we meet face to face " gambit with the wrong individual , no matter how you attempted to veil it.
And you're all over the map out in left field in Tin Foil HatLand. To manage to impart a usable degree of information one must first gain and hold the attention of the intended recipient(s) of that information. An approach that puts forth the perception of being shithouse mouse loony will bring no positive gains.
Those are minutia for the already knowledgeable , and even then minor if factor.
The more realistic approach is to define the basic information to be delivered , who such information should be oriented towards and method of delivery.
Said information , at least at the basic level , should be understandable by the layman one is trying to reach.
Bill , who can make changes to it? I looked it over and it looks to me like a very good start , perhaps the addition of a " Mindgames and Manipulation" sector might be of some benefit.
Look Cy , I'm not going through this with you again. I exerted zero degree of " control" , I could care less to have such a commodity. And quite frankly if voicing an objection to one who outright *advocates* " exerting control" then that leaves me rather disappointed in your stance.
The handmaiden to this is that AGAIN you seem to either misunderstand my emphasis , or flat out ignore it.
Show me where I made an objection to a discussion of compartmentalisation? Figure something out here , what I care about is the end result of all this and I don't have the freaking time to waste with anyone whomsoever that approaches these interactions with the standard " y'all are the great unwashed and I'm here to light your way out of Sodom and Gomorahh" schtick.......and so far that's how Z. comes across , and in case you haven't figured it out I don't really get on too well with types who'll try to run roughshod , I'd rather NOT get " off the sidewalk" for them and enjoy their flustered reaction.
While we're at it.........."rifts in society" , define what you meant by " establish" said rifts?
If you mean establish that they exist , hell a blind deaf and dumb human can figure that out , just look around. It's the prime reason behind the growing dissatisfaction and restless apathy of the Public at Large........
If you mean to actually establish yet another " rift in society " then such a concept begs the question of " to what avail?"......
Could you provide for us two lists so that we can follow your thinking...
a. The systems you're trying to define
b. The psychological factors you're intent is to turn OFF.
Oh and your caste system elimination. Tell me are those who don't worship as you do to be equal citizens in your little utopia?
QuoteOh and your caste system elimination. Tell me are those who don't worship as you do to be equal citizens in your little utopia?
I don't worship anyone or anything.
There is no such thing as a utopia. It cannot exist.
There is no such thing as a panacea. Panaceas cannot exist.
Yes, they will be equal beings.
That is why the ERZs are entirely voluntary, and that is why the rules are spelled out up front.
No hidden regulations. No "yeah, buts...".
Elias,
I have had a thought on another possible mind war concept.
Using Shorty Dawkins concept of a parallax meme, for youtube or wherever, have an audio reading of the Declaration of Independence but with video of current totalitarian tactics. SWAT teams kicking in doors, IRS agents seizing land, all visuals to coincide with the reading at the most appropriate places.
May already be done. Just a thought for the Fourth of July.
Elias,
I have had a thought on another possible mind war concept.
Using Shorty Dawkins concept of a parallax meme, for youtube or wherever, have an audio reading of the Declaration of Independence but with video of current totalitarian tactics. SWAT teams kicking in doors, IRS agents seizing land, all visuals to coincide with the reading at the most appropriate places.
May already be done. Just a thought for the Fourth of July.
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain inalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of Happiness. That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed. That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.
Elias isn't the only one around here with movie-making capabilities. Tahn's idea is a good one. It would be You-Tube size and could get a lot of attention there.
While the saying is "If you want to get something done, assign the task to a busy person. They are the ones getting stuff done." All well and good, but we do have limits ... and quite often are running at their very edge.
Elias,
I have had a thought on another possible mind war concept.
Using Shorty Dawkins concept of a parallax meme, for youtube or wherever, have an audio reading of the Declaration of Independence but with video of current totalitarian tactics. SWAT teams kicking in doors, IRS agents seizing land, all visuals to coincide with the reading at the most appropriate places.
May already be done. Just a thought for the Fourth of July.
Still eagerly anticipating! :threvil:Elias,
I have had a thought on another possible mind war concept.
Using Shorty Dawkins concept of a parallax meme, for youtube or wherever, have an audio reading of the Declaration of Independence but with video of current totalitarian tactics. SWAT teams kicking in doors, IRS agents seizing land, all visuals to coincide with the reading at the most appropriate places.
May already be done. Just a thought for the Fourth of July.
Hi Tahn,
Your idea is a good one. Sorry it took me so long to get back here and thank you for this post.
I can say that I'm learning to make videos now, and am actually making a movie which will be released in September -- it's just a "raw footage" type low-or-no-budget endeavor, but it's coming along nicely. I plan to sell it and hope sales go well. If the movie sells well, I'll talk with James Jaeger and/or Jim White of Northwest Liberty News about doing the movie you've suggested.
Tahn, I've got a lot going on, which is why I'm not here very much, but what I'm up to will result, if it's successful, in my being back here much more than I've been in years. I have not only the movie, but another surprise for all TMMers here, which I can announce sometime in September. I'm very excited, and want to build everyone's anticipation without telling folks yet just what the surprise is. Don't hate me for building suspense -- I'm wanting to get both the movie and the other surprise fully presentable before announcing them. It won't be long now, another six weeks or less. I think it will bring a smile to your face, Friend.
Then we can talk about your idea for the video. It is a good suggestion, and could make a powerful presentation.
Salute!
Elias
Still eagerly anticipating! :threvil:Elias,
I have had a thought on another possible mind war concept.
Using Shorty Dawkins concept of a parallax meme, for youtube or wherever, have an audio reading of the Declaration of Independence but with video of current totalitarian tactics. SWAT teams kicking in doors, IRS agents seizing land, all visuals to coincide with the reading at the most appropriate places.
May already be done. Just a thought for the Fourth of July.
Hi Tahn,
Your idea is a good one. Sorry it took me so long to get back here and thank you for this post.
I can say that I'm learning to make videos now, and am actually making a movie which will be released in September -- it's just a "raw footage" type low-or-no-budget endeavor, but it's coming along nicely. I plan to sell it and hope sales go well. If the movie sells well, I'll talk with James Jaeger and/or Jim White of Northwest Liberty News about doing the movie you've suggested.
Tahn, I've got a lot going on, which is why I'm not here very much, but what I'm up to will result, if it's successful, in my being back here much more than I've been in years. I have not only the movie, but another surprise for all TMMers here, which I can announce sometime in September. I'm very excited, and want to build everyone's anticipation without telling folks yet just what the surprise is. Don't hate me for building suspense -- I'm wanting to get both the movie and the other surprise fully presentable before announcing them. It won't be long now, another six weeks or less. I think it will bring a smile to your face, Friend.
Then we can talk about your idea for the video. It is a good suggestion, and could make a powerful presentation.
Salute!
Elias
Still waiting............ :thrbiggrin:
Any updates??
We decided to put this film back up for free. Anyone who likes the film and wants to support this effort is invited to purchase copies of it on DVD and/or donate to the marketing campaign. Both can be accomplished at http://www.MidnightRide.us/trailer -- James Jaeger
Watching it right now!
MIDNIGHT RIDE - When Rogue Politicians Call For Martial Law
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jno9r-OWKDM
EDIT- Checking out the comments, I saw this and felt compelled to include the quote below.QuoteWe decided to put this film back up for free. Anyone who likes the film and wants to support this effort is invited to purchase copies of it on DVD and/or donate to the marketing campaign. Both can be accomplished at http://www.MidnightRide.us/trailer -- James Jaeger
No problem! :thrbiggrin:
Thanks DL for posting that link. James called me today to let me know that the movie would remain online. He feels that it is an important movie with a message that needs to be plastered all over the country. Please do tell all your friends to check it out. Thanks mucho!
Salute!
Elias
I just dashed off to MidnightRide.us intending to buy a dvd of the movie ... and Molan Labe. I guess I'm blind in one eye and deaf in the other, cuz I could see where that was done.Hmmmm. I can't seem to find any way to buy Midnight Ride either. Perhaps Elias can help with that. I did find links to Molon Labe though. Hope this helps!
Please... a link to mail-order purchases
I just dashed off to MidnightRide.us intending to buy a dvd of the movie ... and Molan Labe. I guess I'm blind in one eye and deaf in the other, cuz I could see where that was done.Hmmmm. I can't seem to find any way to buy Midnight Ride either. Perhaps Elias can help with that. I did find links to Molon Labe though. Hope this helps!
Please... a link to mail-order purchases
http://www.oathkeepersgear.net/DVD-Molon-Labe_p_92.html
What else will be offered? A TMM T-shirt would be pretty cool! *hint hint*
And by Christmas Eve next month it will be available at The Mental Militia's new online store. ;)
What else will be offered? A TMM T-shirt would be pretty cool! *hint hint*
And by Christmas Eve next month it will be available at The Mental Militia's new online store. ;)
You can borrow mine, Elias. :)
Do you have a copy that is high-resolution, larger?
Do you have a copy that is high-resolution, larger?
I don't have one, Elias, but I'll see what Carl Bear might be willing to produce. I'll get back to you in email. :)
Remember the "Freedom Gang Sign" thread? One of the coolest ideas in there was to use the electrical symbol for a resistor.
--\/\/\/\--
I can crank these out ... and probably many others you can imagine. Shown here sewed onto my tan jacket.
My web host made major changes Sunday and Monday. They were down for me all afternoon.
The RESISTOR patch is showing up now on my view of TMM. I think it is cured for all.
Please let me know if there still is a problem.
Most folks still don't get the reference even after I explain for them what the symbol is actually.
The "Resistor patch" was my idea that I had executed by a mother/daughter machine embroidery company. When they decided to close it down, my partners and I bought the company.
I can crank these out ... and probably many others you can imagine. Shown here sewed onto my tan jacket.
(http://www.thepatchworks.biz/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/Resistor-patch-300x102.jpg)
Elias's latest Trailer-
Red Neck Nullification 2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UYOOQYt1EOk
Elias's latest Trailer-
Red Neck Nullification 2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UYOOQYt1EOk
I wish there were subtitles available. Sometimes, he's kinda hard to understand.Elias's latest Trailer-
Red Neck Nullification 2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UYOOQYt1EOk
Haven't finished watching it yet, but looks very good so far.
Finished watching it. Nicely done. Ernie is always a joy to watch and listen to. I don't entirely grok his natural ease with rejecting the CORPORATE LEGAL FICTION, but I'm getting there. He sure disarms that judge.
He refers at the end to "Ernie's page at thementalmilitia.net". I don't know where that is. Elias?
Yup. Found here- https://thementalmilitia.net/welcome/Finished watching it. Nicely done. Ernie is always a joy to watch and listen to. I don't entirely grok his natural ease with rejecting the CORPORATE LEGAL FICTION, but I'm getting there. He sure disarms that judge.
He refers at the end to "Ernie's page at thementalmilitia.net". I don't know where that is. Elias?
versus the addy for the page I am typing on which is : thementalmilitia.com/forums/etc-etc-etc-etc
Elias' new TMM?
Maybe?
Yup. Found here- https://thementalmilitia.net/welcome/
:laugh: I was answering Gooch.Yup. Found here- https://thementalmilitia.net/welcome/
I KNOW about the site. I set it up. But what I don't know is where to find Ernie's PAGE on the site.
:laugh: I was answering Gooch.
Meh....It happens. As a matter of fact, I did something similar to Gooch during the Ebola thread flare-up. :laugh::laugh: I was answering Gooch.
Duh. Apologies.
:laugh: I was answering Gooch.Yup. Found here- https://thementalmilitia.net/welcome/
I KNOW about the site. I set it up. But what I don't know is where to find Ernie's PAGE on the site.
I looked for "Ernie's page" as well. I couldn't find it either. :dontknow:
Elias,
I read on the paying for web hosting thread that you are creating the new membership system for the TMM dotnet.
Will those of us here at the TMM dotcom be able to transfer/migrate our membership from here to there? IF so, How? (keep it simple please, remember that I am a country boy at heart. )
Thanks,
gooch
I can't speak for Elias, but there's no existing way I know of to migrate SMF forum memberships to a WordPress site. It would certainly be possible to CREATE such a mechanism, in a couple of days of my time, but it's not that hard to create a WordPress account using its dialog boxes, so we'll probably go with that.
Also, Bill, I will want to create a National Site Forum here that will be for dues-paying members only.
Also, Bill, I will want to create a National Site Forum here that will be for dues-paying members only.
MamaLiberty can probably handle that, or I'll figure it out if she declines. I would guess it would go in "Partner Sites" or "Private Boards".
Thanks Bill. I'm pretty sure I can create it -- it's been a while since I did that here, but am guessing I can get through that easily enough. I'll get with ML to see what I'm prolly overlooking, soon. Tonight I'm on getting the memberships stuff organized so we can go "live".
Thanks Bill. I'm pretty sure I can create it -- it's been a while since I did that here, but am guessing I can get through that easily enough. I'll get with ML to see what I'm prolly overlooking, soon. Tonight I'm on getting the memberships stuff organized so we can go "live".
Just tell me what you want and where. I'll take care of it. I've got a LOT more time for stuff like this than you do, Elias. :)
Bill and Cindy are straightening out the paypal BS by substituting a new payment system at the national site. I am getting rid of paypal. We will be using an alternate money-transfer system. That should "go live" sometime this week.
Bill and Cindy are straightening out the paypal BS by substituting a new payment system at the national site. I am getting rid of paypal. We will be using an alternate money-transfer system. That should "go live" sometime this week.
Hello,
I'm interested in your pmt/donation options and what you decide to go with. We do have Paypal but have rarely used it (once in the last 10 years). I use Google Wallet for internal transactions (fuel pmts) but I also do cash, check or charge. Since it's an LLC you can also do the Square. It's free in the sense there is no monthly pmt, just a 2.75% transaction charge. They do need an FEIN though. For non-point-of-sale transactions I just get an email, log in and send them an invoice - then they can complete transaction at home. Likewise, Google Wallet pmts can be arranged with just an email - but it requires a smartphone and the app. - same with Apple Pay.
All of my pmt options involve some amount of 'evil' - i.e. banks, Google, taxes, ideology, State - so I suppose it depends on your level of tolerance in dealing with the State and statists. For example, I wanted to donate to ericpetersautos.com with Google Wallet but he ended affiliation with Google (edit: Google ended its affiliation first) ... but he does do Paypal!
My motivation is getting $ transferred as easily as possible from as many different pmt sources as I can.
We're Back, and Better than Ever!
Now that we have the necessary structures in place to take down TMM.com, and the yet to be unveiled TMM.net, we thought we should wait until the appropriate time. In the meantime, it is a continuing source of amusement to follow the goings on behind the scenes.
Some of us think no further action is warranted, because this forum is already on the skids. It is highly doubtful it will ever regain its former glory (heh.) The new site at TMM.net is sure to alienate, guaranteed to further discredit the liberty movement. Do some really think people will pay $25 for that tripe?
Many members have noted the decline of this forum, commenting both publicly and privately. As Silver said in a message to the penguinphobe, Elias has gone, and we quote, "batshit crazy."
We could go on, but you get the idea. Things are not well here, not well at all. We considered ending the suffering, but there are voices who say we should let it die naturally. It would be morbid entertainment for some.
Until next time, we are Legion.
Legion must be our troll, contemplating bringing us down more spectacularly than last time, which she likely knows how to do. No idea why we're worth the time, but since when did adolescents make sense?
Legion must be our troll, contemplating bringing us down more spectacularly than last time, which she likely knows how to do. No idea why we're worth the time, but since when did adolescents make sense?I have a feeling that you were duped into thinking that it's just an adolescent girl. Why would whomever this is be using the word "we"? Seems to me that the most logical perpetrator(s) is/are disenfranchised former member(s) who failed to steer the forum into their desired direction and were run off or banned. Of course this is just my opinion.
Legion must be our troll, contemplating bringing us down more spectacularly than last time, which she likely knows how to do. No idea why we're worth the time, but since when did adolescents make sense?I have a feeling that you were duped into thinking that it's just an adolescent girl. Why would whomever this is be using the word "we"? Seems to me that the most logical perpetrator(s) is/are disenfranchised former member(s) who failed to steer the forum into their desired direction and were run off or banned. Of course this is just my opinion.
Legion must be our troll, contemplating bringing us down more spectacularly than last time, which she likely knows how to do. No idea why we're worth the time, but since when did adolescents make sense?I have a feeling that you were duped into thinking that it's just an adolescent girl. Why would whomever this is be using the word "we"? Seems to me that the most logical perpetrator(s) is/are disenfranchised former member(s) who failed to steer the forum into their desired direction and were run off or banned. Of course this is just my opinion.
Actually, I know little about our troll, but since it represented itself as an adolescent female, I'll treat her as such for now. Either she IS one, or it's a suitable insult.
Legion must be our troll, contemplating bringing us down more spectacularly than last time, which she likely knows how to do. No idea why we're worth the time, but since when did adolescents make sense?I have a feeling that you were duped into thinking that it's just an adolescent girl. Why would whomever this is be using the word "we"? Seems to me that the most logical perpetrator(s) is/are disenfranchised former member(s) who failed to steer the forum into their desired direction and were run off or banned. Of course this is just my opinion.
Actually, I know little about our troll, but since it represented itself as an adolescent female, I'll treat her as such for now. Either she IS one, or it's a suitable insult.
Isn't "We are Legion" a direct quote from the Anonymous website?
Perhaps an adolescent female aspiring to be an Anonymous member?
:twocents:
Let’s ask Anonymous, with their abilities and contacts, to search out and discover the culprit or culprits and expose them for what they are, internet terrorists.
Are you guys still out there? Lol
I'm sure they are... but here at the TMM forum, they seem to be keeping very, very quiet.
I'm gonna finish reading the thread before I start discussing. Also Idk how the quoting thing works...but it's cool. Glad you guys are out here. I'll try to tune into your show
You are currently listed as a "guest" and cannot use most of the forum's features unless you log in as a member.
You are currently listed as a "guest" and cannot use most of the forum's features unless you log in as a member.
"guest" means that someone deleted dtc's account. The backup server has an archive, if he wants it back, but only for a week.
I'm sure they are... but here at the TMM forum, they seem to be keeping very, very quiet.
ML, I don't know what may happen with this, but should let you know just in case we get some "ripple-effect" next Tuesday night. (July 11, 2017) I will be on the Caravan To Midnight show with John B. Wells on Tuesday for an hour and a half to talk about The Mental Militia and other things, such as our relationship with G. Edward Griffin's Red Pill Expo and Jeanette Finicum's ongoing struggle to keep her family's ranch and seek justice for the state-sponsored assassination of her husband, LaVoy Finicum.
Caravan To Midnight does not have as big an audience as Coast To Coast does, but Caravan To Midnight is a fairly large listening audience, so we may see a couple of new members sign up here after the show.
Here is a sample of Caravan To Midnight which I've posted at TMM's national site --
At TMM: https://thementalmilitia.net/readers-regiment/patrick-wood/
The video at Caravan To Midnight channel -- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H7QlOTi86Nk
Thanks, ML.
And Welcome dtc! Enjoy. (Yes, we're still around, just being uncharacteristically quiet for the most part.)
Salute!
Elias
I'm writing this for Elias Alias and for John B Wells simultaneously so that you will both be aware of this information on "A Brief History of the Study of Consciousness" with Stuart Hammeroff and "Is Consciousness the Unified Field" with Dr. John Hagelin.
I can't stress the importance of the content of these two videos - for the Mental Militia, something I've been involved with since 1975.
The first video - which will provide the information about the physiological structures that support our interaction with the quantum field - sets the stage for the second video that explains how consciousness acts like the unified field - where TREMENDOUS energies are in play...
We may harness this field via the development of consciousness and as it turns out, nature abhors the abuse of power, so we can only achieve life-supporting ends with this "Science of Creative Intelligence".
You will be glad you watched these videos.
1. https://youtu.be/hKAVgq99o_w (https://youtu.be/hKAVgq99o_w)
2. https://youtu.be/LPhgDfT4Zpc (https://youtu.be/LPhgDfT4Zpc)
I've informed both you and John B Wells with the same text so you might coordinate a discussion down the road - similar to the one I listened to just the other day.
Happy sanyama (samyama also correct...), gentlemen.