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Title: MindWar
Post by: Elias Alias on December 17, 2014, 07:21:03 am

It will take a lot of posts here to get the basics all laid in, but I will begin the task now. The world at large is the backdrop we’ll have to use to get this down on paper.

MindWar is a specific program which was born in the U.S. Army's 7th Psychological Operations Group. MindWar as a concept has been with the Army and by extension has been with the Intelligence community since 1980. I also wish to remind readers that MindWar, by its own definition, targets all minds on earth including the minds of American citizens. I am taking a close look at a public figure, a retired US Major General, Paul E. Vallely, and I am looking at his relationship to MindWar.

With that much in mind, let us cast far afield now, and step by step reel it in.

On November 12 2008 Steven Aftergood, who is the director of the Federation of American Scientists’ “Secrecy Project” and an outstanding patriot, published an article which linked an Army Field Manual of 248 pages. The Manual is on Unconventional Warfare. (Quoting from below link)
Army Rethinks Unconventional Warfare  *  http://blogs.fas.org/secrecy/2008/11/unconventional/

The conduct of unconventional warfare is explored in depth in a major new U.S. Army Field Manual on the subject (pdf). <  http://fas.org/irp/doddir/army/fm3-05-130.pdf  >  (Download that pdf while it's still available, yes?)

Unconventional warfare (UW) is defined as “Operations conducted by, with, or through irregular forces in support of a resistance movement, an insurgency, or conventional military operations… This definition reflects two essential criteria: UW must be conducted by, with, or through surrogates; and such surrogates must be irregular forces.”

(end quoted passage from Federation of American Scientists)

Looking into that large document we learn many astonishing things. For one thing, we find therein the verification that the US Military is targeting American citizens at large with Psychological Operations of various types. The Army has “psy-warriors”, and the Army has NORTHCOM sitting right there in Colorado on “domestic duty”, aimed at behavior control of large numbers of citizens. Bear that in mind.

Psy-warriors sometimes “handle” “surrogates”. Surrogates may include “terrorists”. It’s all in the document, and much more. I would remind readers that under MindWar’s all-encompassing war zone, which is the whole world including We The People of America, Unconventional Warfare is a force multiplier. Unconventional Warfare is available as an asset to the MindWar operative.

The pdf is 248 pages. Following excerpts are taken from an article published by Oath Keepers in 2011.
PSYOP specialists are military soldiers specializing in psychological operations, so they are interfaced at times with Intelligence community black operations on the clandestine battleground. That is one of the reasons why the Army’s manual on UW stresses the absolute need to work through surrogates. (i.e., various types of criminals, compromised persons, drug smugglers, money launderers, terrorists).

A surrogate, as we gather, is to have a “handler”. The handler causes the surrogate to be motivated to do certain things which will lead to media and press releases which will influence the perception of the public mind. The handler would be a book-trained sort of black ops specialist of the type who would work in the FBI or CIA. Or – one who would work as an Unconventional Warfare operative, either on active duty within the military or as private sector specialty companies. But let us certainly note that government’s psychological operations are admittedly focusing on “such social dynamics as tribal politics, social networks, religious influences, and cultural mores.” Let us never forget that.

Our UW warriors (“psy-warriors”) do many other things as well. These soldiers or agents mingle and work with the media and press, for instance. They create tv and radio programming and make up press releases and other beneficial activities such as running columns in newspapers. They manufacture and distribute “influence” for public consumption. They may publish pamphlets and fliers, letters to editors, etc. They may call into talk-radio shows, even sometimes run radio stations. They will back factions. Call it “national security” or “advertising” or “propaganda”, or call it “UW” – it’s inclusively one and the same. And it is interlinked. By design.

Handlers use surrogates as assets. The Army’s UW document shows how and why. Let us notice briefly, from the document itself:

“Irregulars, or irregular forces, are individuals or groups of individuals who are not members of a regular armed force, police, or other internal security force. They are usually nonstatesponsored and unconstrained by sovereign nation legalities and boundaries. These forces may include, but are not limited to, specific paramilitary forces, contractors, individuals, businesses, foreign political organizations, resistance or insurgent organizations, expatriates, transnational terrorism adversaries, disillusioned transnational terrorism members, black marketers, and other social or political “undesirables.”  (Unconventional Warfare, p. 1-3)

Please note that UW openly admits using terrorists as “surrogates”.

Let that one sink in for a moment. Our government admits using terrorists as surrogates in Unconventional Warfare.

Psy-ops warriors, Unconventional Warfare ‘handlers’, are expected to manipulate terrorists as surrogates for carrying out psychological operations missions.

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Title: Re: MindWar
Post by: Elias Alias on December 17, 2014, 07:29:38 am

There is something else named in the Army’s UW document – “Irregular Warfare” (IW). The two – UW and IW – are not to be confused or seen as varied names for the same kind of mischief. Irregular Warfare is its own distinct psychological warfare system. From the document:
[Irregular Warfare – IW] also relies on the understanding of such social dynamics as tribal politics, social networks, religious influences, and cultural mores. Although IW is a violent struggle, not all participating irregulars or irregular forces are necessarily armed. People, more so than weaponry, platforms, and advanced technology, will be the key to success in IW. Successful IW relies on building relationships and partnerships at the local level. It takes patient, persistent, and culturally savvy people within the joint force to execute IW. (from U.S. Army manual on Unconventional Warfare, p. 1-5)
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Paraphrase: The taxpayer’s government is now financing Army psy-warriors in official activeduty, ranked and filed duty-stations of military capacity to be working on building relationships and partnerships with citizens like each of us at the local level. Ideal candidates for Psy-warrior assignment would be “culturally savvy”. This is coming directly from the U.S. Army itself. Earlier we spoke of the Founders’ preference against having a standing army. The Founders’ wisdom now confronts our apathy as we awaken to see what we have allowed to develop unawares.

Some may state that all of this Unconventional Warfare and Irregular Warfare and Special Operations and Black Operations, all of it, is only to be used on America’s “enemies”. Aside from the fact that the only enemies we have are those whom we’ve deliberately agitated into becoming our enemies, we note that MindWar’s target, by General Vallely’s own definition, includes the American people as a whole.

I do not think that the Army can wriggle out of that one. Cat’s out of the bag.

Ah, they will say, “but the Army has not declared MindWar!”

To that I must retort – MindWar is not meant to be “declared”, for to declare it is to instantly render it impotent. When the target consciousness knows it is being targeted, it shores up automatically, rendering MindWar impotent. But further, all of the compositional elements for MindWar operations are clearly now in existence and under a chain of command, as well as plans for sharing authority with a civilian department named the U.S. Department of Homeland Security (DHS).
Let’s look at a bit more from the angle of Unconventional Warfare, just to get our picture focused and clear.

The following is found on page ii of the Contents section of the Army manual. It is a directory for the paper’s Appendix. It is in all-caps below because that is just how the Army has published it. Please note the “attitude” carried inherently by the titles of the various appendixes. That “attitude” is a red flag to me, and is a taunt to the legacy of our nation’s Founders. Yet this is what Army feeds our soldiers who win assignments in Psychological Operations and Unconventional Warfare. Are we, as Americans, all about “National Power”? What happened to States’ sovereignty, the Tenth Amendment, and “Power To The People”? Did those sentiments die and fade away? The questions should be asked. See this:

Appendix A THE DIPLOMATIC INSTRUMENT OF NATIONAL POWER……………………….A-1
Appendix B THE INFORMATIONAL INSTRUMENT OF NATIONAL POWER………………..B-1
Appendix C THE INTELLIGENCE INSTRUMENT OF NATIONAL POWER……………………C-1
Appendix D THE ECONOMIC INSTRUMENT OF NATIONAL POWER …………………………D-1
Appendix E THE FINANCIAL INSTRUMENT OF NATIONAL POWER…………………………. E-1
Appendix F THE LAW ENFORCEMENT INSTRUMENT OF NATIONAL POWER…………. F-1
Appendix G THE MILITARY INSTRUMENT OF NATIONAL POWER ……………………………G-1
Appendix H THE ROLE OF HISTORY AND CULTURE ……………………………………………….H-1
Appendix I A HISTORICAL SURVEY OF UNCONVENTIONAL WARFARE …………………. I-1
Appendix J AN OUTLINE HISTORY OF THE UNCONVENTIONAL WARFARE DEFINITION….. J-1

Isn’t that remarkable? Here is a bit more from the Internet:

US Army UW at Wikipedia
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unconventional_warfare_%28United_States_Department_of_Defen se_doctrine%29

UW was the first mission assigned to United States Army Special Forces when they were formed in 1952; they now have additional missions, including foreign internal defense (FID).[2] In the United States, “special forces” refers specifically to the United States Army Special Forces (SF), as opposed to the usage in most other countries, where “special forces” refers to the range of unit types that the U.S. calls “special operations forces” controlled by the United States Special Operations Command (USSOCOM). SF units are tasked with seven primary missions: :*unconventional warfare (United States Department of Defense doctrine) (UW)

• foreign internal defense (FID)
• special reconnaissance (SR)
• direct action (DA)
• counter-terrorism (CT)
• counter-proliferation (CP)
• psychological operations (United States) (PsyOps)

• information operations (IO).

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Psychological Operations USA
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychological_operations_%28United_States%29

Psychological operations (PSYOP) or, as it has been known since 2010, Military Information Support Operations (MISO) are planned operations to convey selected information and indicators to audiences to influence their emotions, motives, objective reasoning, and ultimately the behavior of governments, organizations, groups, and individuals.

The purpose of United States psychological operations is to induce or reinforce behavior favorable to US objectives. They are an important part of the range of diplomatic, informational, military, and economic activities available to the US. They can be utilized during both peacetime and conflict. There are three main types: strategic, operational, and tactical. Strategic PSYOP include informational activities conducted by the US government agencies outside of the military arena, though many utilize Department of Defense (DOD) assets. Operational PSYOP are conducted across the range of military operations, including during peacetime, in a defined operational area to promote the effectiveness of the joint force commander’s (JFC) campaigns and strategies. Tactical PSYOP are conducted in the area assigned to a tactical commander across the range of military operations to support the tactical mission against opposing forces.

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When contemplating today’s MindWar theater we may also want to recall the Joint Chiefs of Staff from the year 1962. They were in agreement that psy-ops plans using our military’s special forces and CIA personnel to create a wave of terrorism (which would blow up buildings in American cities, killing innocent American citizens), to exact a desired public response, were certainly permissible under that ‘old adage‘ concept which states – “The ends justify the means.”

Most of my readers already know about the Northwoods Document, but perhaps many of our newer members have yet to learn about it. Note that this happened in 1962. Let’s get into it.


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Title: Re: MindWar
Post by: Elias Alias on December 17, 2014, 07:34:05 am

ABC News coverage of Northwoods Document, 2001

http://abcnews.go.com/US/print?id=92662

Book: U.S. Military Drafted Plans to Terrorize U.S. Cities to Provoke War With Cuba
By David Ruppe * N E W Y O R K, May 1, 2001

In the early 1960s, America’s top military leaders reportedly drafted plans to kill innocent people and commit acts of terrorism in U.S. cities to create public support for a war against Cuba. Code named Operation Northwoods, the plans reportedly included the possible assassination of Cuban émigrés, sinking boats of Cuban refugees on the high seas, hijacking planes, blowing up a U.S. ship, and even orchestrating violent terrorism in U.S. cities. The plans were developed as ways to trick the American public and the international community into supporting a war to oust Cuba’s then new leader, communist Fidel Castro. America’s top military brass even contemplated causing U.S. military casualties, writing: “We could blow up a U.S. ship in Guantanamo Bay and blame Cuba,” and, “casualty lists in U.S. newspapers would cause a helpful wave of national indignation.” Details of the plans are described in Body of Secrets (Doubleday), a new book by investigative reporter James Bamford about the history of America’s largest spy agency, the National Security Agency. …The plans had the written approval of all of the Joint Chiefs of Staff and were presented to President Kennedy’s defense secretary, Robert McNamara, in March 1962. But they apparently were rejected by the civilian leadership and have gone undisclosed for nearly 40 years.

(end quoted passages from ABC News article.)

It is highly recommended that we each read the Northwoods document which James Bamford uncovered while researching for his books. ABC News was being as nice as they could be under the circumstances, in using the word “reportedly” – but the story is much more definite than that. The Joint Chiefs of Staff most definitely did draw up such a plan. This link to the ABC News article is good as of early April, 2014.
>>>embedded link – http://abcnews.go.com/US/print?id=92662

And here is the document itself, as a pdf, courtesy of George Washington University. If you have never read this document, please by all means take a pause here and read it. It’s only a few pages, about thirteen, but it is one of the most important documents you’ll ever read.

http://www2.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/news/20010430/northwoods.pdf

World War II had ended seventeen years prior to the writing of this document. The arms industry had over-ramped by the end of the war, and a recession was assured if too many Defense contracting small businesses were suddenly closed down due to “peace”, so the need for more warfare was obvious to the business sector. The military brass wanted to invade Cuba, and Eisenhower had granted CIA the initial finding to do so. CIA was still preparing for how to do that when Kennedy came to office and sent Ike’s finding forward for DCI Allen Dulles, General Cabal, and Richard Bissell. Under the rubric of “Unconventional Warfare” the Joint Chiefs of Staff sent up to McNamara and Kennedy a plan to create a wave of terrorism in U.S. cities, blow up an American ship, blow up an American airplane, and blame all of it on Cuba.

They were talking about killing innocent Americans in U.S. cities and blaming their deaths on Cuba. The idea was to influence the American people to support an invasion of Cuba, which, without that wave of terrorism at that time, the American people would not support. The plan would be a psychological operation under auspices of Unconventional Warfare (UW).

The Northwoods document’s significance to us here is that it undeniably proves that our Federal government and Department of Defense, Department of Justice, and Department of State will each and all not only lie to the American people to perpetuate US POWER, but will also order terrorist strikes even against Americans here in our own country, on U.S. soil.

Please read that document in full. Why? Because we must understand that our government will deliberately commit acts of terrorism here on U.S. soil, and because something just that evil is afoot today. We must prepare our minds to accept how methodically evil our government has become in certain departments and agencies. Even if we take the “D” out of the word “Devil”, we still have “Evil”. And even if we add a small “o” to the word “God”, we still have “Good”.

Psy-War, MindWar, Unconventional Warfare, Irregular Warfare, Special Ops, Black Ops, all go beyond our older understanding of the term “Covert Operations”. The MindWar operations of the US Military are of course kept shrouded in secrecy, but individuals have the courage to admit that such evils exist inside departments of our government.

“NSA surveillance is reality, it is unstoppable, and it is one of the undeniable preludes and force multipliers to MindWar being waged upon the American people.”


We must always remember that Generals have intimate contact with the emissaries of the Military-Industrial Complex.

President Eisenhower cautioned us to be wary. We weren’t. Now we’re in deep.

(Continued)

Title: Re: MindWar
Post by: Elias Alias on December 17, 2014, 07:43:23 am

Readers who have taken time to dig deeper into the hidden history of American banking, into our evolving government policy, into the great tax-exempt Foundations such as Ford, Carnegie, Rockefeller, and Morgan, into Defense Contracting,
>>>embedded link – http://projects.washingtonpost.com/top-secretamerica/network/#/overall/most-activity/
...into Wall Street, into the U.S. Intelligence Community at large; readers who have noticed the insanity carried daily in our headlines; and readers who understand that the Snowden leaks have exposed things the Establishment does not want us to know exist, have an inkling about what I’m going to say next:

“NSA surveillance is reality, it is unstoppable, and it is one of the undeniable preludes and force multipliers to MindWar being waged upon the American people”. – Elias Alias

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How Covert Agents Infiltrate the Internet to Manipulate, Deceive, and Destroy Reputations
By Glenn Greenwald 24 Feb 2014, 6:25 PM EDT

https://firstlook.org/theintercept/2014/02/24/jtrig-manipulation/

Also, link for the pics in scroll: https://firstlook.org/theintercept/document/2014/02/24/art-deceptiontraining-new-generation-online-covert-operations/

(quoting)
One of the many pressing stories that remains to be told from the Snowden archive is how western intelligence agencies are attempting to manipulate and control online discourse with extreme tactics of deception and reputation-destruction. It’s time to tell a chunk of that story, complete with the relevant documents. Over the last several weeks, I worked with NBC News to publish a series of articles about “dirty trick” tactics used by GCHQ’s previously secret unit, JTRIG (Joint Threat Research Intelligence Group). These were based on four classified GCHQ documents presented to the NSA and the other three partners in the English-speaking “Five Eyes” alliance. Today, we at the Intercept are publishing another new JTRIG document, in full, entitled “The Art of Deception: Training for Online Covert Operations.”

I want to focus and elaborate on the overarching point revealed by all of these documents: namely, that these agencies are attempting to control, infiltrate, manipulate, and warp online discourse, and in doing so, are compromising the integrity of the internet itself.

Among the core self-identified purposes of JTRIG are two tactics: (1) to inject all sorts of false material onto the internet in order to destroy the reputation of its targets; and (2) to use social sciences and other techniques to manipulate online discourse and activism to generate outcomes it considers desirable. To see how extremist these programs are, just consider the tactics they boast of using to achieve those ends: “false flag operations” (posting material to the internet and falsely attributing it to someone else), fake victim blog posts (pretending to be a victim of the individual whose reputation they want to destroy), and posting “negative information” on various forums…

The infrastructure which would set the tone of, and shape the character of, an ongoing massive war on the collective consciousness of the American people embodies every agency, group, and coterie mentioned in the preceding paragraphs. It is also interfaced with the internationalists at the United Nations (UN), with foreign banking, with the European Union, as well as with the Trilateral Commission, the Council on Foreign Relations (CFR), the Bilderberg group, the British RIIA, with many international and multi-national corporations, and with others such as the Club of Rome etc. That infrastructure defines objectives for its own existence and expansion. How that infrastructure, which itself is the military-industrial complex as a whole with inter-related external forces vying for favor and profit, arrives at definition is more a mechanical manifestation of proactive marketplace forces than a logical process.

That infrastructure has little use for the human spirit, or for how humans engage life processes. It is a meta-robotic phenomenon. We will give an example:

Government, being enacted by humans who occupy various offices of governance, ‘perceives’ (through the minds of government employees) that it was created in part to provide certain types of “security” for the governed. We can all relate to that simple observation.

But a perceived need for security might spawn a perceived need for a standing army, despite the expressed wishes of the Founders. The perceived need for a favorable consensus in the public sector spawned a perceived need for a public relations (propaganda) operation designed to influence the perception of the collective public consciousness in ways favorable to the desired shift in policy. The perceived need for public relations ‘product’ (the influencing of the public mindset) spawned, over many decades, the perceived need for the perceived standing army to create and operate Psychological Operations groups inside the US military (and its contracting private sector accomplices), which train “psy-warriors” whose orders include not only spying on the American people but also lying to the American people. It is MindWar.

While it is sometimes referred to as “mind control” the military calls it an aspect of “Operations Other Than War (OOTW)”.

OOTW among other activities, is conducted as element(s) of Unconventional Warfare and Special Operations and Irregular Warfare.

All of those alien-sounding terms fit nicely into MindWar, as we shall see. And they are all being implemented by the US military. This extreme psychological aggression is clearly outside any parameters our Founders would condone under any circumstance.

Let us look at some random selections to hone our fears. Here are some studies which show government’s interest in what we the people may think:

Homegrown Radicalization and the Role of Social Networks and Social Inclusiveness in the United States

http://www.start.umd.edu/research-projects/homegrown-radicalization-and-role-social-networksand-social-inclusiveness-united

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Patterns of Radicalization in Political Activism
http://www.start.umd.edu/research-projects/patterns-radicalization-political-activism

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MIAC report in February 2009: http://www.constitution.org/abus/le/miac-strategic-report.pdf
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DHS leak of April 07 2009: http://www.fas.org/irp/eprint/rightwing.pdf
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It would take time and expertise to convince people to dissolve their Militia of the several States and accept in its place a standing army. The process by which the public mindset, the public perception, was altered/changed was gradual but effective, so that now, more than twenty-three decades after this nation’s founding, nobody hardly ever speaks against the “standing army” – they just accept it, or, worse, remain oblivious to it.

It is good to remember what the Founders intended. Because I do try to learn and remember, I participated strongly in the documentary film based on Dr. Edwin Vieira, Jr.’s book, “The Sword And Sovereignty”, which is a 2400 page tome of the history of the Militia in America. The film, MOLON LABE! How The Second Amendment Guarantees America’s Freedom”, is available here, and incorporates the knowledge presented by Dr. Vieira in the book. The book and the movie are both excellent sources for direct knowledge of our Constitution, the Militia, and the American Spirit.

So now let us get down to brass tacks.

Let us be clear:

“The “means by which” we “process information” “to make up (our) minds” is to be “adjusted” so our minds are made up as our overseers desire. They will use our media to do it to us.”

(Continued)

Title: Re: MindWar
Post by: Elias Alias on December 17, 2014, 07:48:30 am

In 1980 General Vallely was a Colonel in the US Army’s 7th Psychological Operations group. Also in 7th PsyOp group in 1980 was a Major named Michael Aquino, who co-authored with then-Colonel Paul E. Vallely a paper named “From PSYOP to MindWar: The Psychology of Victory”.

Major Aquino was Colonel Vallely’s “PSYOP Research & Analysis Team Leader”. Some years later, Aquino wrote an introduction to the pdf of that PSYOP to MindWar paper, which can be found online. And finally, last year, in 2013, Aquino himself, without any overt help from General Vallely, published a book named “MindWar” as a carry-over from the paper they coauthored in 1980. Get your copy at Amazon dot com, (or don’t). I bought a copy so you would not have to. Just know that the book is real, it exists, and was written by the same guy who co-wrote, thirty-four years ago, the infamous paper mentioned above

(https://eliasalias.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/MindWar-2013-232x300.jpg)

When we speak the term “MindWar”, we’re using a word created by two men, one of whom is retired US Army Colonel Michael Aquino. (The other was Major Richard Sutter.) In a footnote on page 26 of his 2013 book entitled “MindWar”, Aquino says that he and Sutter had seen the movie Star Wars in 1977 and “…we imagined a play on its name as a futuristic replacement for the bland Army term “Psychological Operations”.

We want to pause to make clear that General Vallely does not, and did not in 1980, share Colonel Aquino’s religious beliefs. General Vallely has published on his site an explanation of how some people are tangling up their threads of association by accusing General Vallely of being a Satanist just because he once worked with one. Yes, Colonel Aquino was a big figure in the Church of Satan and later, when that Church of Satan closed, Aquino formed its successor, the Temple of Set. Aquino is a high priest in the worship of Satan, and was throughout his career in the US Army. General Vallely led the investigation for the Army which verified that.

Perhaps we should pause here and view a brief video of the Satanist Aquino, co-author of MindWar, on the Geraldo show –

http://youtu.be/sCvP9OdGySw

So there we have a glimpse of Michael Aquino, the guy who coined the word “MindWar” with then-Colonel Paul E. Vallely and wrote the book of that name last year, in 2013.

But as noted, General Vallely had no interest in Aquino’s religion, other than to verify for the Army that Aquino worshiped Satan.

Although that is fairly sick stuff, the shallow-minded folks on the Internet who are associating General Vallely with the Church of Satan or its successor, the Temple of Set, are spreading mis-info on the Net. I want everyone to understand clearly that General Vallely has nothing to do with worshiping Satan or with Aquino’s Temple of Set.

Now I would like to share with readers the following paragraphs from page 26 in Aquino’s book:

“Within the US military, PSYOP has habitually been relegated to a back-seat as a ‘force multiplier’. The principle strategic decisions are made in consideration of traditional political and military interests and goals. Only then is PSYOP invited to the table, to help achieve already-agreed-upon missions more efficiently. “[General] Vallely’s and my original concept of MW [MindWar] reverses this sequence. Psychological means for achieving victory – essentially through convincing the enemy that he really wants to bring his policies and goals into harmony with ours – are first fashioned in support of basic political realities. The use of ‘ordinary’ military force (bombs, bullets, etc.) is regarded as a ‘last resort’ in circumstances wherein MW by itself fails.

“The immediate advantage of that 1980 concept of MW is that it conducts wars in non-lethal, non-injurious, and non-destructive ways. Essentially, you overwhelm your enemy with argument. You seize control of all of the means by which his government and populace process information to make up their minds, and you adjust it so that those minds are made up as you desire. Everyone is happy, no one gets hurt or killed, and nothing is destroyed.” [Emphasis in original; parentheses are Aquino’s, brackets are mine.]

I am not saying that General Vallely believes that today, and I hope he does not, but I do note that he signed off on that paper himself some thirty-four years ago. In fact, he co-wrote it.

But please don’t think that General Vallely is the spearhead of that kind of evil. The Army has all sorts of MindWar assets already in place. Psyops has been involved with remote viewing and other para-psychological fields including much “occult magic”. Numerous field-grade officers have experience in such fields through their work in PSYOP divisions of the Army. Also, private sector think tanks handle such topics, as do elements of our Intelligence community. As the Washington Post has defined clearly, countless offices and agencies and departments and corporations are working on such things as we speak. Here is that link again:

http://projects.washingtonpost.com/top-secret-america/network/#/overall/most-activity/

Just as God and the Devil (or “Good” and “Evil”) compete for favor in the individual’s mind; just as the Republican Party and the Democrat Party compete for favor in the individual’s mind; just as the world’s religions compete for favor in the individual’s mind; just as myriad corporations compete for favor in the individual’s mind – all powers in society have an interest in maintaining popular acceptance in the public mind, the group mind, the “collective consciousness” of any group; indeed, of any city, State, or country, and in your mind as an individual.

Title: Re: MindWar
Post by: Elias Alias on December 17, 2014, 07:55:06 am

Okay. I have a lot more to place on this thread, but let's take a break at this point before going further.
I may go back into the above posts to edit for bold/italics and spacing, or other means of accenting some thoughts for the reader.  I noticed that I'm unable to post videos here, so if anyone here knows how to do that on this forum please let me know, so we won't have to go trucking about on the Net to view supporting video imagery. Thanks!

Salute!
Elias

Title: Re: MindWar
Post by: Klapton Isgod on December 17, 2014, 09:03:06 am

I had never heard about Valeley being associated with satanism.  I first heard of him because of his recent attempts to incite patriot groups to attempt a coup.  It didn't take long to find out about his career in PSYOPS, which made the already smelly event stink to high heaven.

I think the primary goal of his yet-another-armed-march-on-DC was to identify people.  I wonder if the Satanist angle was another deliberate "leak" to further divide and identify people.  In this case, patriots with stronger religious motivations.

Title: Re: MindWar
Post by: Elias Alias on December 17, 2014, 09:17:19 am

Quote from: Klapton on December 17, 2014, 09:03:06 am

I had never heard about Valeley being associated with satanism.  I first heard of him because of his recent attempts to incite patriot groups to attempt a coup.  It didn't take long to find out about his career in PSYOPS, which made the already smelly event stink to high heaven.

I think the primary goal of his yet-another-armed-march-on-DC was to identify people.  I wonder if the Satanist angle was another deliberate "leak" to further divide and identify people.  In this case, patriots with stronger religious motivations.

Hey Klapton,
Don't make that association -- that Vallely is involved with Satanism. He is not. In fact he was the officer, superior over Aquino, whom the Army charged with investigating Aquino. The investigation was rather easy, as Aquino was always glad to share his faith with anyone who would listen, and he never denied it.  But Vallely and Acquino both worked on the paper, From Psy-Op To MIndWar, however, and it is totally fair to note that the U.S. Army did not give a damn that a blazing Satanist was working in one of the Psy-Op Groups. That speaks tons for organized hierarchy in a standing army, yes? Government, in any format, is methodical, indifferent, and is no respecter of persons, as this example from the standing army shows.

After we lay in some more details and filler material, I'll get back to Vallely's role in the ill-fated "Operation American Spring". I've got a lot on that, and also a lot on other escapades by the good General, including his adventures abroad and his notions for commandeering the Tea Party, but first we'll want to get into some of the more juicy aspects of our dearly beloved Intelligence community. We should, er, get ACQUAINTED. ;)

It is important that on this thread there is absolutely no inference that Vallely is in any way associated with Satanism. He is not, at least not to my knowledge. But of course, one does not have to worship the devil to do the devil's work. One other note: This whole topic is not about Vallely other than the fact that he signed off on the remarkable document on MindWar back in 1980. We will look at that paper more closely shortly.

Salute!
Elias

Title: Re: MindWar
Post by: Klapton Isgod on December 17, 2014, 01:58:11 pm

Quote from: Elias Alias on December 17, 2014, 09:17:19 am

Quote from: Klapton on December 17, 2014, 09:03:06 am

I had never heard about Valeley being associated with satanism.  I first heard of him because of his recent attempts to incite patriot groups to attempt a coup.  It didn't take long to find out about his career in PSYOPS, which made the already smelly event stink to high heaven.

I think the primary goal of his yet-another-armed-march-on-DC was to identify people.  I wonder if the Satanist angle was another deliberate "leak" to further divide and identify people.  In this case, patriots with stronger religious motivations.

Hey Klapton,
Don't make that association -- that Vallely is involved with Satanism. He is not.

Yeah, I got that.  I'm simply saying that I never heard that particular bit of hysteria, and question where it came from (i.e. was that also planned as part of the overall agenda).

Title: Re: MindWar
Post by: RVM45 on December 17, 2014, 02:08:15 pm

There is quite a bit to absorb there. I downloaded the US Army Unconventional Warfare TM and will be reading it…

But...

_{{And you may very well already be planning on addressing this…}}

If every source of Data outside of the tiny window on the world that our own senses provide…

If everyone and everything except myself is either already co-opted or soon will be co-opted or at the very least must be suspected of being co-opted…

How do I winnow the Spin-Doctored Chaff from the Grains of Truth?

Is there some sort of Social Sieve of Eratosthenes that can be applied to news of the outside world? Or is the answer to ignore and shut out nearly everything?




…..RVM45               :mellow::thumbsup::mellow:           

Title: Re: MindWar
Post by: DiabloLoco on December 17, 2014, 06:47:44 pm

Quote from: RVM45 on December 17, 2014, 02:08:15 pm

There is quite a bit to absorb there. I downloaded the US Army Unconventional Warfare TM and will be reading it…

But...

_{{And you may very well already be planning on addressing this…}}

If every source of Data outside of the tiny window on the world that our own senses provide…

If everyone and everything except myself is either already co-opted or soon will be co-opted or at the very least must be suspected of being co-opted…

How do I winnow the Spin-Doctored Chaff from the Grains of Truth?

Is there some sort of Social Sieve of Eratosthenes that can be applied to news of the outside world? Or is the answer to ignore and shut out nearly everything?




…..RVM45               :mellow::thumbsup::mellow:         

Personally, I take it all in. My bullshit detector is always running full tilt. I take in the information as if everything is a lie. If some tidbit of information interests me, I try to verify that information from as many sources as I can find.

Some things, I do tune out. No offence to Elias, but I find the religious angle to all of this to be off putting. An example, is this passage- "Even if we take the “D” out of the word “Devil”, we still have “Evil”. And even if we add a small “o” to the word “God”, we still have “Good”." I'm not going to post my reasons for finding that off putting here (they are posted elsewhere if someone cares to look), but that doesn't mean that I will stop reading it. You can't tune out ALL information and expect to grow. If nothing else, it allows you to understand someone else's point of view.

Elias,

Thank you for taking the time and effort to post this stuff. I look forward to your next batch. :thumbsup:

Title: Re: MindWar
Post by: Adventurer, Explorer, Inquiring Mind. on December 17, 2014, 07:45:04 pm

What I've noticed about the religious folk, and especially the uber religious types, is that if you "come out of the closet" about wanting freedom FOR EVERYONE, not just Christians or their chosen religious branch or sect... the alliance/friendship/love affair for freedom, ends.  I've met so few who weren't like that, I could count them on my fingers.  Of course, even among our own, (and I've quit the church permanently now, or rather the last one I attended decided to be placed right next to all the other ones I've quit in disgust) churchfolk fight each other over this interpretation, or that interpretation.  If you are okay with women wearing pants, the baptists quit you.  If you're okay with gays, pretty much all of them quit you.  If you cuss a bit here and there pretty much the whole gang gets easily offended, Christians and Muslims the most (with Muslims, in my experience being the more forgiving, regardless of what the media says), and Jews less offended unless you didn't lube your Uzi with still warm Palestinian blood, cussin' is fuck'n A in the books of the ones I've known, very thick skins, but still with an available berserk button if someone ever wanted to push one.  (IDF types, jewish or not will get that Uzi lube joke, American Jews... not so much.)

(Ironically some of the best people I've known have been the cussin' types, the prissies tend to also be the people who blow polite smoke up your ass and then actually are most likely to stab you in the back, just personal experience, YMMV)

We don't need government to divide and conquer.  Church "leaders" have done so for fun and profit since back when the first band of Attilas became the first Witch Doctor's "tax" collectors.  Back then they called it "tribute" but it still started with a T, and still left you broke at the end of the day.

Observation made after original part of this post:  Atheists, and even agnostics while vehemently opposed to religion, and often for good pro-freedom reasons, are more willing to not interfere with religious folks.  Religious folks often interpret "their freedom" as their freedom to get in everyone's faces preaching things they often don't practice themselves, usually at government and policy gunpoint.  I'm not pulling this out of my ass, either:   I know exactly 2 preachers who practice what they preach in my town (out of more than 2 dozen preachers out here), both of my friends are newcomers, like me, from far out of town, one's a gunsmith.  The rest just look for reasons to be superior to you.  And the most hypocritical ones are also the ones whose kids or congregation members are most snobbish and most likely to have daughters be knocked up at 14 or haze other kids because their families have been in town longer than the kids they're picking on.  (At least three of those in my town, and you can't reach their noses with a damn ladder!!!!)

To clarify, I was in school (or rather finishing up) when the "removal of prayer from schools" bit was taken too far by knee jerking reactionaries in schools.  Instead of simply letting whoever wanted to pray, meditate or whatever, they went and decided nobody could do anything.  As it was brought up to us, those who were religious were simply not going to force everyone ELSE to pray with them.  So in fact, when it was first pitched, the idea was to practice freedom of religion (I grew up in the south, I know what its like to have those proselytizing Baptist kids treat you like scum because you read a different language Bible or didn't read one at all (lets not even TOUCH Korans or Torahs.))  That's school administration, in general a bunch of autocratic dickheads (if you ever met 'em) and not the actual legislation, which, at least where I grew up, was actually set up so nobody could force their religious views on the classroom.  You know, science, math, language, 5 days a week, religious studies at church, since, you know, tax payer dollars shouldn't be used to pay to force any particular religion down people's unwilling throats.  Its no different than the way HIPAA is misinterpreted by every bumkin and mental midget I've met at every hospital I've been to.  (I'm sure Mama Liberty can add to that.)


So while I agree with Elias on the mindwar thing, I must disagree that its all the government.  Government's full of evil power hungry psychopaths, no doubt.  But the more immediate threat, is that we have a screwy litigious culture and courts willing to permit the entry and even success of such trivial and bullshit lawsuits as to make you wonder if the whole place isn't run by people whose IQ's never grew above those of the average barnyard chicken! (Gun culture people who follow politics know this personally what with the idea of suing gun manufacturers for what idiots do with guns.)  This type of "legal" culture allows or even forces the risk averse types to take the need to cover one's ass (think HIPAA, and the prayer in school restriction) to be taken to the most infantile "I'm taking my ball and going home rather than risk a bruise" mindset.  Instead of applying rational thought and rational controls over one's facility, infantile / puerile / downright idiotic "zero tolerance" policies are instated as a blanket cover all.  This is similar to a default linux firewall done right.  ALL behavior blocked or dropped and then permitted instances are explicitly allowed by a competent administrator.  Given that most school administrati are jackasses, with few, and very notable and ADMIRABLE exceptions, they do the "default block" policy, and forget to permit/use discretion for things that AREN'T those things.  Contrary to popular belief this is due to a "lowest common denominator" target demographic for schools, rather than, as should be the case, a "highest possible aspiration for each."


(Elias, somewhere I'm pretty sure I have some other declassified books I bought at Borders, years back, and they're pretty hair raising to the average American, but to anyone who ever attended HOPE or 2600 meetings, or used to read 2600 and PHRACK magazines, this is NOTHING new.)  You know, Borders, the store that quite a few of the politically noisy super christians say they bankrupted deliberately by boycotting it because Borders management supported abortion and sex education in schools.  Seriously, the demographic with the highest divorce rate and out of wedlock pregnancies in the marriage happy side of the world (Iceland doesn't count)!!!  Bitching about teaching kids how NOT to get knocked up!!  I got that story from several uber christians who moved west for "religious freedom" (who were actually on the lam for something or another, but I never got the details, though it sounded like stuff where I certainly wouldn't do business with them.)  Obviously "religious freedom" is "freedom for me, but not for thee" with the majority of these.  When I meet the rare exceptions I befriend them, as they are fully deserving of my respect and friendship.



"Last word" on this post is this:  Just because someone hates your oppressors, doesn't mean they're your friends.  Just because someone gets a check from those who've conquered the known world, doesn't mean they stomp heads and kill newborns for the oppressors.  Choose your allies carefully.  Some of our potential allies are equally as nasty tyrants, but are upset that the scientists have usurped their power to deny reality, and they're dying to get it back.

Title: Re: MindWar
Post by: Who...me? on December 17, 2014, 07:46:39 pm

"Personally, I take it all in. My bullshit detector is always running full tilt. I take in the information as if everything is a lie. If some tidbit of information interests me, I try to verify that information from as many sources as I can find."

I think that is pretty much how you have to approach any info source.  So much bullshit out there that it is just easier to start at bullshit and work back from there.

Title: Re: MindWar
Post by: Elias Alias on December 17, 2014, 10:15:35 pm

Quote

How do I winnow the Spin-Doctored Chaff from the Grains of Truth?     

Ahhh, that is a question each human must ask of himself, yes?

The MindWar document was written -- fact.
The Army's field manual on Unconventional Warfare was written -- fact.
The NSA is caught collecting all human communications, to store them for future datamining -- fact.
The USA PATRIOT ACT of 2001 was written and passed into "law" -- fact.
The AUMF (Authorization for the Use of Military Force) was written and passed into "law" -- fact.
The NDAA-2012 was written and passed into "law" -- fact.

Etc etc etc etc.

Enough facts exist to illustrate a pattern. How each person interprets the pattern, or the significance of the pattern, is up to each individual.

Salute!
Elias

Title: Re: MindWar
Post by: jamie on December 17, 2014, 10:59:51 pm

Quote from: Elias Alias on December 17, 2014, 07:55:06 am

Okay. I have a lot more to place on this thread, but let's take a break at this point before going further.
I may go back into the above posts to edit for bold/italics and spacing, or other means of accenting some thoughts for the reader.  I noticed that I'm unable to post videos here, so if anyone here knows how to do that on this forum please let me know, so we won't have to go trucking about on the Net to view supporting video imagery. Thanks!

Salute!
Elias

good work.

I have to say that I missed your long posts on the whole NWO stuff and glad you are back.

Title: Re: MindWar
Post by: Adventurer, Explorer, Inquiring Mind. on December 18, 2014, 07:41:42 pm

Quote from: jamie on December 17, 2014, 10:59:51 pm

I have read of  Vallely and aquino and was aware of the  attempted association of Vallely with satanism. I was therefore leary of Vallely, just shows how powerful this stuff is.
Vallely was the idea guy behind the march on mordor, which fizzled. One of the ways used to discredit him was the satanism angle.
 BTW Elias Jamie is the name of our Belgian Malinous senior guy, a fine gentleman , who graciously allowed me to use his name.
I have to say that I missed your long posts on the whole NWO stuff and glad you are back.
i never had to be convinced though. Back in the dark ages before the internet, I met a guy who had an intellect that I respected.  He set out to debunk all the illuminati, etc etc.
I saw him a year of so later. He said the more I got into it, the more I was convinced it is real. He said and here I am paraphrasing, it actually frightened me, the extent of the evil. Enough so that I quit, not out of fear but sheer loathing.
And of course I have done my own investigation of sorts. Report from Iron mountain, creature from jekyll island and so on.
 military and gubmint experiences didn't exactly fill me full of confidence either.

I actually studied what LaVey preached (what people call Satanism, the actual established religion.  Remember I was once a member of the Christian church... by force of childhood inculcation, no less, I re-left again recently, thanks to yet more political infighting and lying to the membership about the real reasons for a decision, in what I thought was a Christian church above such bullshit..  When attending the Christian church, way back when I was more Baptist attendee than anything else (forced by family to attend), I wanted to "know my enemy" and I found out that what they taught and what others said about them, wasn't quite exactly the same.  So accusations of "satanism" aren't exactly chief on my list of things to worry about.  Most of those guys want to get laid, stoned, wasted, drunk, left the hell alone, and feel special, important and valuable.   So they're basically just human beings who decided they needed a religion to feel complete, and were probably raised in strict super christian families and REBELLED.  That's a very evil word in the bible.  Obedience, being the only good one.)

As for the "author" of the religion, LaVey was a hedonist of the first degree.  However, he knew that Satan has been inculcated into people so much, that people fear a stupid name, for a stupid concept, which, if you notice, is what?  Rebellion?  Refusal to obey?  So he came up with something he could pitch to the rebellious to still keep them under the umbrella of a religion.

I didn't see cute fluffy animal sacrifices in the stuff I was privy to.  I didn't see "conquer the world" or any other of this crap I read about on shit like InfoWars.

HOWEVER!!!  I'm not a fan because its all based on the same faulty reasoning and misinterpretations and misrepresentations as the opposing and very dominant sect of Dominus (that'd be Lord for you non latin types.)

Those who assume that "Satanists" are puppy killing, grave robbing, child sacrificing, child raping asshats, are forgetting something.  It was the Abrahamists who were more prone to murdering kids.  First borns of all of egypt, for that matter, supposedly murdered by the hidden secret security answering to Moses.  (The logistics of how they verified the murders so quickly, and how they were verified to have only killed first borns (explains the lambs blood on the door, I figure supernatural beings didn't need those signs, but human assassins would), says the Pharaoh had one hell of a powerful grapevine!).

I hear accusations of "satanism" and I immediately begin to consider the source an irrational "religionist" or "abrahamist" punitive control freakist sect of "freedom for me, but not for thee" group.  And control freakism is Dominus' realm, not some puny servant with delusions of grandeur, elevated to power by Neo Zoroastrians who needed an "enemy" (their own Report from Iron Mountain variant) back in the days when Babylon still had the equivalent of a zip code.  Satan was a name which is still common out east, even in the modern day, just like Jesus is a common name amongst Latinos.  In the west, the name has been inculcated into the masses to inspire such outright fear, distrust and images of a Satyr with a Pitchfork, that the moment those accusations are flung, people stop actually looking at the REAL EVIL in front of them, and immediately focus on the target of the accusation for supposedly worshiping Satan and wanting to inflict DOMINATION (remember Dominus) upon others.  But wait... if one reads Genesis and Exodus, its FULL of accounts of slaughters and murders and inflictions of DOMINATION on other tribes, and not because Satan commanded, but because Dominus, The LORD commanded.  EXPLANATION PLEASE?!  (Remember, the LORD is unchanging.  Can't use the excuse.  Have to come up with something far more elaborate.)

Edited to submit the second half and format properly.

Title: Re: MindWar
Post by: heyoka on December 19, 2014, 07:19:58 am

Beside get laid, stoned, wasted, drunk, left the hell alone :mellow:, I think some of them just do it to mess with the large faction of "Christians" that are pompous hypocrites. TPIB are divinely engineered don't ya know?
There's no fanatic like a religulous fanatic.
As for Wyoming being (or being morphed into) an anarcho capitalistic (whatever) Nirvana, all you really need to know has it's underpinnings in the Johnson County War.
same as it ever was   

Title: Re: MindWar
Post by: knobster on December 19, 2014, 11:34:27 am

Quote from: Destin Faruda on December 18, 2014, 07:41:42 pm

<snip>But wait... if one reads Genesis and Exodus, its FULL of accounts of slaughters and murders and inflictions of DOMINATION on other tribes, and not because Satan commanded, but because Dominus, The LORD commanded.  EXPLANATION PLEASE?!  (Remember, the LORD is unchanging.  Can't use the excuse.  Have to come up with something far more elaborate.)

Explanation?  For God commanding His people to kill? 

God is the creator of all things.  All of us fall short of His glory.  None of us deserve His mercy.  Was it unfair that 99.99% of the people perished during the flood?  Nope.  It was just, only one man found grace.

Title: Re: MindWar
Post by: Klapton Isgod on December 19, 2014, 12:01:00 pm

Please don't clutter this thread with a religious argument.  Yeah...  Elias said the G-word in his post, but it's really not the point.  I'd like to keep reading and participating in this thread without wading through yet another internet argument consisting of "The God of the Bible is mean" and "Nu uh!"

.

Title: Re: MindWar
Post by: MamaLiberty on December 19, 2014, 02:32:44 pm

Quote from: Klapton on December 19, 2014, 12:01:00 pm

Please don't clutter this thread with a religious argument.  Yeah...  Elias said the G-word in his post, but it's really not the point.  I'd like to keep reading and participating in this thread without wading through yet another internet argument consisting of "The God of the Bible is mean" and "Nu uh!"

I'll second that motion...

Title: Re: MindWar
Post by: Adventurer, Explorer, Inquiring Mind. on December 19, 2014, 02:40:54 pm

Quote from: heyoka on December 19, 2014, 07:19:58 am

Beside get laid, stoned, wasted, drunk, left the hell alone :mellow:, I think some of them just do it to mess with the large faction of "Christians" that are pompous hypocrites. TPIB are divinely engineered don't ya know?
There's no fanatic like a religulous fanatic.
As for Wyoming being (or being morphed into) an anarcho capitalistic (whatever) Nirvana, all you really need to know has it's underpinnings in the Johnson County War.
same as it ever was

Yeah exactly my point!!!  Say, wanna buy a property in Wyoming?  I divested of the other things I was invested in, out here.  Just need to sell this last one so I can move to an evil anti gun place with higher taxes.  Cheap, I'll sell at buying cost plus improvements, about 60 grand.  Lot, house, shed, shop, back fence, landscaping (did it myself, no less.)  Only thing I'm not leaving is my warehouse stock and servers.  I'll even leave the house wired up (jacks to every room, phone, data, high speed data, miniature telco closet/board, etc.)

Title: Re: MindWar
Post by: Moonbeam on December 19, 2014, 02:46:53 pm

Quote

In a footnote on page 26 of his 2013 book entitled “MindWar”, Aquino says that he and Sutter had seen the movie Star Wars in 1977 and “…we imagined a play on its name as a futuristic replacement for the bland Army term “Psychological Operations”.

Bastards!  :angry:

Title: Re: MindWar
Post by: Moonbeam on December 19, 2014, 02:57:34 pm

I'm with you, Klatpon. Destin you have your very own thread to share your personal frustrations, remember?! : http://www.thementalmilitia.com/forums/index.php?topic=33922.0

As for the Satanic angle for some of the Elite and et al - it make sense to me. It seems a logical explanation for such hatred, apathy and delusions.

Title: Re: MindWar
Post by: Adventurer, Explorer, Inquiring Mind. on December 19, 2014, 03:01:12 pm

Quote from: Moonbeam on December 19, 2014, 02:57:34 pm

I'm with you, Klatpon. Destin you have your very own thread to share your personal frustrations, remember?! : http://www.thementalmilitia.com/forums/index.php?topic=33922.0

As for the Satanic angle for some of the Elite and et al - it make sense to me. It seems a logical explanation for such hatred, apathy and delusions.

You don't get it.  Use honest words.  Hatred is what you exhibit when you destroy others.  You are exhibiting it on yours or your master's behalf.  Since the satanists are only rule breakers, it doesn't work.  They're deceivers, anti tyrannical, rule breakers, rebels, many of the things we consider good (except deceivers, but that's okay against our enemies, right?)  The religious fanatics are control freaks, tyrants, overlords and kill for government.  As I said, I'm not coming under some religious umbrella unless forced to at gun point, not again.  I've seen what that's worth.  My remarks weren't religious gripes so much as explaining that the SATANIST accusation is a fake strawman accusation designed to INFLAME a certain demographic, yourself and Klapton included. 

"Freedom of religion my ass."   Or something to that effect.

Title: Re: MindWar
Post by: Moonbeam on December 19, 2014, 03:19:56 pm

Quote from: Destin Faruda on December 19, 2014, 03:01:12 pm

My remarks weren't religious gripes so much as explaining that the SATANIST accusation is a fake strawman accusation designed to INFLAME a certain demographic, yourself and Klapton included.

Quote from: Destin Faruda on December 18, 2014, 07:41:42 pm

EXPLANATION PLEASE?!  (Remember, the LORD is unchanging.  Can't use the excuse.  Have to come up with something far more elaborate.)

It's been covered before - in your very own thread I believe. :)

Title: Re: MindWar
Post by: jamie on December 19, 2014, 04:59:47 pm

It wasn't my intent to make this post about satanists.  I thought I was talking about the NWO that Elias used to post a lot about in relation to mind war.  I didn't realize it would bring up so much vitriol. Which is why I deleted my post.

Title: Re: MindWar
Post by: Klapton Isgod on December 19, 2014, 05:33:35 pm

Quote from: Destin Faruda on December 19, 2014, 03:01:12 pm

My remarks weren't religious gripes so much as explaining that the SATANIST accusation is a fake strawman accusation designed to INFLAME a certain demographic, yourself and Klapton included.

I'm not inflamed.  I apparently did not communicate effectively in my first post, because Elias misunderstood me too.  All I said was that this was the first I had ever heard of the bogus "Satanist" thing.  I never said I believed it.  It was the first I had heard of it because I don't frequent forums where there's lots of Bible thumpers / people who would freak out at something like that.

My question was whether or not that strawman / lie was a deliberate ploy as part of this whole "mind war" thing.  Did TPTB want to identify people who would freak out about it?  Did they want to make sure that Vallely's march never actually happened?  Maybe their goal was simply to monitor responses on the internet to identify sympathizers, etc.

My plea later to NOT have this become a "God is a meanie" argument is simply because I'm actually learning new things in this thread.  I won't learn anything new from that same old argument I've seen a thousand times before.  I've read the book, like any other intelligent, educated person has, and am simply not interested in reading all the nasty parts of the Bible again.

There were several posts back and forth that were completely NOT on topic, and looked like they were going to be the same dead horse dragged out and beaten yet again.

Title: Re: MindWar
Post by: Moonbeam on December 19, 2014, 09:07:18 pm

Quote from: Elias Alias on December 17, 2014, 07:29:38 am

To that I must retort – MindWar is not meant to be “declared”, for to declare it is to instantly render it impotent. When the target consciousness knows it is being targeted, it shores up automatically, rendering MindWar impotent.

A ray of sunshine? This is intriguing and I want to know more about protecting me and mine - if it's possible?

Quote from: Elias Alias on December 17, 2014, 07:29:38 am

But further, all of the compositional elements for MindWar operations are clearly now in existence and under a chain of command, as well as plans for sharing authority with a civilian department named the U.S. Department of Homeland Security (DHS).

I would like to learn more about this...

Thanks, Elias! Keep it coming...

Title: Re: MindWar
Post by: Elias Alias on December 20, 2014, 01:19:15 am

Quote from: Klapton on December 19, 2014, 12:01:00 pm

Please don't clutter this thread with a religious argument.  Yeah...  Elias said the G-word in his post, but it's really not the point.  I'd like to keep reading and participating in this thread without wading through yet another internet argument consisting of "The God of the Bible is mean" and "Nu uh!"

.

Thank you Klapton;
I was damned if I did, and damned if I didn't -- mention the satanic aspect of the co-author of "From Psy-Op To MindWar".
There is a role which religion plays in the overall MindWar, but it's not a new role. I am personally an agnostic, for I feel that I do not know enough to make an informed decision about creation, a (the) Creator, or the role religion plays in the psyche of humankind. I just do not know, and I am not in a hurry to know, for "to know" would instantly lock down entire portions of my mind. Belief is a blockage, and all religions except possibly Buddhism, require "faith", which is by definition based on "belief". Whichever portion of a subjective mind holds within its sphere any "belief", is locked out of being "open". Belief is the antithesis of open-mindedness, and therefore I resolved long ago to steer clear of "belief". I prefer an open mind, all the better for the apprehension and comprehension of the ever-recurrent indefinitude of the infinite modalities of the expression of "the being".

Yet mankind has ever sought some source of "authority" outside the individual self, for the most part. A very few in history have realized what Jesus said -- "Know ye not that the kingdom of heaven is within you?".   Your average cretin wants a king, a president, a preacher, even a benevolent dictator, but few there be who are willing to accept the responsibility for their own lives, including the fact that at the very core of their being dwells that force which is characterized in their mythologies, awaiting their re-cognition thereof, which is liberation in a marvelous and miraculous way, but which must be bought with the soul's coinage, minted in courage and a will power to claim full responsibility for one's existence and all the deedery, dreamwish, and damnable daliances the racial consciousness is famous for.

So I hope to see more comments about the meat of the matter, and less focus on specifics, especially the specifics of Aquino's silly-assed religion.

There is a dude named Santilli, or something like that, who read my article last year about the MindWar document and instantly claimed over radio waves and on his website that Vallely was a satanist. His blog was picked up by others who live on the edge of hyper-active fear-states and who clutch instantly for any sensational tidbit life throws their way, nervous Nellies who go off half cocked and distort much with their online antics, pratings, and wailing. That sort read Santilli's half-assed guess and took it to the bank around the Internet, spreading fiat falsehoods and calling it "truth". Their reaction completely took away the perception of the greater threat -- that MindWar is a reality which should be addressed. Just as some here on this thread have thus far missed the point of the thread and have got hung up on personalized interpretations of matters which do not really apply to this discussion, (but we forgive them, yes?), the public at large is as easily distracted from the more central vision and go off in their subjective perceptions muttering and repeating to themselves the contents of their own personal "known". (There is a really cool little book by Jiddu Krishnamurti entitled "Freedom From The Known", which is a written elucidation of what I just said, in case anyone wants to buy another book for their collection.)

Other than its classical usages down the Centuries by compelling egos who fancy themselves "leaders" to control the masses, religion has very little to do with the psychology of mind control, mind manifestation, and MindWar. I would sorta like to keep things focused on the psyche, what a mind is, why some powerful people want to control other peoples' minds, and where they're at with that nefarious endeavor now that we've got machines with central-core artificial intelligence operating in real time at quantum levels, all of which is of course in the hands of our dearly beloved, damned-by-God government.

Which brings me full 'round to a closing point for this post. I posted what I could a couple of nights ago, but had to then get my old ass back to work. Had to take a break. I do have much more to add to this thread, and shall, but I have to fit that task into an already serious overload of obligations elsewhere. Here is a good example of what a tiny part of what I do when I'm not hanging out here --

http://campaign.r20.constantcontact.com/render?ca=4b046671-2a9e-477d-af83-3e7ab7b9dc68&c=88c1a140-cd6c-11e3-bde6-d4ae5292c38a&ch=8a02fae0-cd6c-11e3-bf00-d4ae5292c38a

I am interested in preventing "martial law" or "martial governance", and I am interested in stopping the insanity called "militarizing local police". Much more than mere religious differences, the militarizing of our police under Federal control is a direct evidence of a deliberate creation of MindWar and its predecessors. Before America could be conditioned to accept a military-police state, much cultural work (damage) had to be done by the globalizing Marxists and socialist progressives in the post-Wilson era, who sat out a century ago to do just that. 1903 marked the transference of the Militia power from the hands of the people to their allegedly "representative" government, and it's gone downhill ever since while the American public was distracted, satiated, stressed, programmed, comforted, entertained, and Feducated with all manner of superfluous mythology, transference, materialism, and delusion etc etc. In that lengthy stupor the forces which would destroy American sovereignty on behalf of a one-world government managed to sell to the public the notion that in any emergency it is the government's right and duty to suspend Constitutionally-guaranteed rights in order to restore "law and order" or "keep the peace". So *that* is an aspect of MindWar.

I will get some more posts up on this thread shortly, hopefully Saturday evening. There are several here I'd like to reply to, especially Jamie, who has already removed a post I had anticipated responding to. I do apologize for being short on minutes.

Salute!
Elias

Title: Re: MindWar
Post by: DiabloLoco on December 20, 2014, 11:31:42 am

Quote from: Elias Alias on December 20, 2014, 01:19:15 am

I was damned if I did, and damned if I didn't -- mention the satanic aspect of the co-author of "From Psy-Op To MindWar".

Great post, Elias. I am an agnostic as well. That's why the god/satan aspect did not sit well with me. I'm glad that you included it though, as it could be a part of the bigger picture. To leave it out would not be doing anyone any favors.

I'll be waiting for your next installment with eager anticipation. :thumbsup:

Title: Re: MindWar
Post by: Adventurer, Explorer, Inquiring Mind. on December 21, 2014, 12:47:48 pm

Quote from: DiabloLoco on December 20, 2014, 11:31:42 am

Quote from: Elias Alias on December 20, 2014, 01:19:15 am

I was damned if I did, and damned if I didn't -- mention the satanic aspect of the co-author of "From Psy-Op To MindWar".

Great post, Elias. I am an agnostic as well. That's why the god/satan aspect did not sit well with me. I'm glad that you included it though, as it could be a part of the bigger picture. To leave it out would not be doing anyone any favors.

I'll be waiting for your next installment with eager anticipation. :thumbsup:

Join the club.  Any intellectually honest man, who has NOT witnessed an outright miracle out of nowhere, HAS to be agnostic.  You cannot claim to "know" what you believe.  Those words are entirely different, but they are flung around the wrong way these days.  I've commented extensively on this here and on other fora over the years.  Its made no difference.  Facts can always be reinterpreted to fit someone's world view.  It is the rare man who can hold a clear world view and shape it based on facts.  Hell its a rare man who can observe the facts and take them in as they are, without coloring them on the way in, either.

That said, my rant about the satanism angle is exactly that, I see it at info wars, I see it other places.  I'm guessing the MindWar operatives are trying to incite the religious fanatics to blind rage by pointing at some of their own and saying "oooh, look, they burned an owl effigy, they're obviously satanists against the bible!!!"  Then they sit back and hope some of the nuttier super christians will do something stupid.  Thankfully, to date, those fellows have been busy making money and feeling self important and when people are well fed and feeling self important, they don't blow shit up or kill people for no reason other than that someone pointed at them and yelled "BURN THE WITCH!!!!  KILL THE HERETIC!!!!  PURGE THE XENOS!!!" 

The day the bellies are empty and they feel cast aside, I assume things will be different.

Title: Re: MindWar
Post by: Elias Alias on December 21, 2014, 07:13:15 pm

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What we think is of keen interest to those who manipulate the General government for Defense contracts etc.

There is a plainly visible need nowadays for “Wars and Rumors of War”. It helps keep Wall Street’s bubble afloat while at the same time fortifying the fractional-reserve central banking practices of the Federal Reserve, which itself grants to the General government in WDC the power to render more services without acutely raising taxes. It empowers our government officials to lever Defense contracting. It is an engine, a mechanism, an indifferent momentum of combined factors which undergird our perception of reality. It is life as we know it, routine life in America’s daily fare. It can be tailored, formed, shaped to suit the purpose of any given policy, so long as the people are not made aware.

I am saying: the view of America and our role in the world at large, as portrayed via the media, the press, Madison Avenue, and the White House, is a constructed image carefully designed to disguise nefarious motives underlying our foreign policy. But what about Domestic Policy?

If government has need for a receptive attitude within the public consciousness of the American people for policies which would suppress the people’s freedom, it has a military and Intelligence community which can generate the desired “consensus” in public opinion using their well-staffed PSYOP psy-warriors and their assets. I am saying: the view of America and our role in the world at large, as portrayed via the media, the press, Madison Avenue, and the White House, is a constructed image carefully designed to disguise nefarious motives underlying our foreign policy.

In our failure as Americans to oversee our government’s activities we have allowed it to create our enemies; and those enemies have in turn become necessary to the perpetuation of the great lie which underwrites our standard of living.

For our current Federal government, which with intent defies its founding legal charter, it is important to maintain a favorable mindset in the public mind. Their control mechanism depends on a pliant and compliant acceptance in the group mind. The War on Terror is required to vent the military-industrial complex which keeps the Wall Street bubble afloat which keeps Americans in big-screen tvs, shopping malls and specialty boutiques, spending money for sports events, fine cars, etc. – and thusly also keeps Americans by and large duly distracted from what the hidden hand of MindWar may be up to. But as Catherine Austin Fitts (http://Catherine Austin Fitts) says, “If we can’t face it, God can’t fix it.”

And all of that is bad enough, yet here is the ultimate in incredulity. General Vallely, a former PSYOP officer who co-wrote “From PSYOP to MindWar”, not only wants to see an American administration (Obama) over-turned and replaced with a more conservative regime, (of which we’ve seen our share in the past thirty or so corruption-packed years), which shall change the language of tyranny yet again to appease an awakening citizenry – he also wants to build a private army to overthrow the lawful Government of Syria.

I would recommend that readers pause here and watch this video in which we find the Good General riding about at what appears to be the Turkey/Syria border, himself armed, with armed rebel forces for escort, in a convoy with rebel trucks and machine guns:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b3lPGY7UlsA

(I am still looking for how to post a video on this forum. Maybe we decided years ago that we did not want videos posted here on account of bandwidth -- I can't recall. If that is the case, then I'll just get along by linking to the vids elsewhere and hope readers here will take the time to view them. Go ahead, click that link and see something you will never see on television.)

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Title: Re: MindWar
Post by: Elias Alias on December 21, 2014, 07:28:08 pm

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As we mentioned previously, Generals rub elbows with the executives of the Corporate Dynasty, the Wall Street/Intelligence/Federal Reserve triptych of unimaginable money-power players, all together which comprise the visible face of the military-industrial complex. Note the black trucks with the stenciled doors and the mounted big guns which provided security as General Vallely was chauffeured about. Do we suppose that FSA guerrilla fighters pooled their paychecks to buy those armed trucks? Or is it a better guess that someone with no current/direct ties to the manufacturers of such things, or to the General government’s departments, served as liaison to get the equipage into guerrilla hands? How easy might it be for any retired American officer to hang out over there and collect up some phone numbers and addresses and banking info which could be later handed silently to a Board member of a corporate giant, say, like General Electric, or to someone on the fifth floor at Langley?

I am not accusing General Vallely of doing such things; rather, I am asking if such a scenario must not have happened (by someone)  in order for those trucks and guns to have ended up in guerrilla hands. Somebody arranged that, yes no? While we’re sure that General Vallely would never sponsor illicit arms movements to guerrilla forces candidly seeking to overthrow governments, we must note that somehow these rebel forces have obtained a bit more firepower than we Americans can find at our beloved gun shows. Recall: Obama’s CIA was on the ground at Benghazi, trafficking weapons with Turkey’s help from Libya to Syria.

With Iraq and Afghanistan now stalemated and Iran as yet posing too much difficulty, where can the military-industrial complex turn for their next war? Remember this – no matter how we answer that question, we can know as fact that since World War II every war in which we’ve involved our military has been 1) undeclared by our Congress, and 2) joined by a “coalition of the willing” (other nations) under the auspices of the United Nations. For the last sixty-nine years we’ve forsaken our sovereignty as “America” so the fat cats of Wall Street, the Progressive monopoly-capitalists of the military-industrial complex, and the new world order gang over at the United Nations, could wage “perpetual war for perpetual peace” and have We The People not only fight their wars for them but also finance them with our tax dollars. Colonel Riley is right. The American mindset could use a conversion moment, an epiphany moment which could jar it back to its traditional perception of life in the good ol’ USA.

Is there really any question that *somebody* is wanting war in the middle east?  Vallely himself admits that he is helping build a guerrilla army, a private army, to fight Assad in Syria. He openly makes speeches about that. How on earth can that game-plan mesh with General Vallely’s effort in America to install himself as administrator of the Tea Party, which at its core wants the US out of the middle-east?

It is no secret that the Tea Party came out of the Ron Paul Revolution. I am not easily fooled in questions of contemporary foreign policy. Non-aggression at its center, the Tea Party would bring our troops home for better uses, for righteous and moral uses.

Again we turn to the extremist corporate fascist warhawks of the PNAC era, many of whom studied under Leo Strauss at the University of Chicago. We note that their feature document was sent to the Clinton Administration well before 9/11/2001, and that it was called “Rebuilding America’s Defenses”. For the military-industrial complex, that paper represented their marching orders. While Clinton largely ignored it and even turned Sudan down when they offered to hand over Osama bin Laden, when George W. Bush-41 came to office the document flamed into full advance mode. It included this much-scorned phraseology –

On page 51 of the PNAC’s “Rebuilding America’s Defenses” paper: (quoting)

“Further, the process of transformation, even if it brings revolutionary change, is likely to be a long one, absent some catastrophic and catalyzing event – like a new Pearl Harbor. Domestic politics and industrial policy will shape the pace and content of transformation as much as the requirements of current missions.” (end quote)

At the same time the PNAC was being formed, Zbigniew Brzezinski, a major Obama Adviser and foot-soldier for David Rockefeller and Citibank, was publishing his bombshell book, “The Grand Chessboard: American Primacy And Its Geostrategic Imperatives”. Copyright 1997 by Zbigniew K. Brzezinski; published by Basic Books, a division of Perseus Books Group; ISBN: (cloth: 0-465-02725-3) (paper: 0-465-02726-1).

In that book, on page 211, he noted for the warhawk PNAC neo-cons: (page 211, quoting)

“Moreover, as America becomes an increasingly multicultural society, it may find it more difficult to fashion a consensus on foreign policy issues, except in the circumstances of a truly massive and widely perceived direct external threat.” (end quote)

And on page 40 he declares the values which support the neo-con warhawk military-industrial complex “attitude”: (Quoting)

“In brief, for the United States, Eurasian geostrategy involves the purposeful management of geostrategically dynamic states and the careful handling of geopolitically catalytic states, in keeping with the twin interests of America in the short-term preservation of its unique global power and in the long run transformation of it into increasingly institutionalized global cooperation. To put it in a terminology that hearkens back to the more brutal age of ancient empires, the three grand imperatives of imperial geostrategy are to prevent collusion and maintain security dependence among the vassals, to keep tributaries pliant and protected, and to keep the barbarians from coming together.” - Zbigniew Brzezinski, 1998.

But Brzezinski is a multi-faceted errand-boy for the new world order. He was in cheerleader mode way back in 1970 when he published another major confession of Domestic Hegemonic Lust (DHL): (quoting)

“The technetronic era involves the gradual appearance of a more controlled society. Such a society would be dominated by an elite, unrestrained by traditional values. Soon it will be possible to assert almost continuous surveillance over every citizen and maintain up-to-date complete files containing even the most personal information about the citizen. These files will be subject to instantaneous retrieval by the authorities.
” … A national information grid that will integrate existing electronic data banks is already being developed….The nation-state is gradually yielding its sovereignty. … In the economictechnological field, some international cooperation has already been achieved, but further progress will require greater American sacrifices.” (Quoted from: Between Two Ages: America’s Role in the Technetronic Era by Zbigniew Brzezinski; copyright 1970 by Zbigniew Brzezinski; published 1970 by The Viking Press, Inc., 625 Madison Avenue, New York, New York 10022; (I)SBN: 670-16041-5.)

So here is our Good General now cooking up the Establishment’s newest attempt to co-opt the Tea Party of the entire USA, which was already co-opted twice by the Republican Party USA. It is public relations, it is Madison Avenue, it is advertising, it is propaganda, it is psychological operations. Could it be MindWar?

When it is coupled with foreign interventions by Intelligence community operatives and US Military Unconventional Warfare, Irregular Warfare, and Special Warfare Psy-warriors, you can bet your bottom dollar it’s MindWar.

Aquino gives us a clue. Speaking in his book (the book pictured previously on this thread, entitled "MindWar"), of the original paper he wrote with then-Colonel Vallely in 1980, he notes:

“…several of its [the MindWar paper’s] prescriptions were applied during the first Gulf War, and recently even more conspicuously during the 2003 invasion of Iraq. In both instances intense PSYOP was directed against the object of the attack, while a simultaneous ‘Public Affairs’ effort was made to shield U.S. domestic public opinion from the type of independent critical media coverage that plagued the Vietnam War, by ‘embedding’ journalists with military units to inevitably channel their perspectives and perceptions.” (end quote)

Aquino has just explained something I have noted often before. A significant part of Unconventional Warfare involves the US military and/or Intelligence community (and/or their private-sector counterparts) making use of the media, the press, and other social and cultural institutions.

Here it is from Aquino and Vallely, page 7 in their 1980 treatise on MindWar.

“In its strategic context, MindWar must reach out to friends, enemies, and neutrals alike across the globe – neither through primitive “battlefield” leaflets and loudspeakers of PSYOP nor through the weak, imprecise, and narrow effort of psychotronics – but through the media possessed by the United States which have the capabilities to reach virtually all people on the face of the Earth. These media are, of course, the electronic media – television and radio. State of the art developments in satellite communication, video recording techniques, and laser and optical transmission of broadcasts make possible a penetration of the minds of the world such as would have been inconceivable just a few years ago.”

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Title: Re: MindWar
Post by: Elias Alias on December 21, 2014, 09:09:40 pm

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Yes, MindWar requires the control over the American collective consciousness as well as every other nation’s mentality. That is quite a thought, considering that the US government is actually engaged in the control and structuring of the American national psyche.

We find on page 8 and 9 in the 1980 paper: (quoting)
“…the MindWar operative must know that he speaks the truth, and he must be personally committed to it. What he says is only a part of MindWar; the rest – and the test of its effectiveness – lies in the conviction he projects to his audience, in the rapport he establishes with it.” (end quote)

General Vallely wrote or co-authored those words in 1980. Does General Vallely project a conviction in his presentations to Tea Party audiences? Is he not convinced of the truth of his vision for how to save America? As such, is he a product of a mechanism he himself helped create? Is he a product of, or an agent of, or willing dupe for, the military-industrial complex? Is he experienced in MindWar? Does he know that the difference between Good and Evil exists in the mind of Mankind? Does he know that actions speak louder than words?

Let’s take it up another notch or two. At the bottom of pqge 10 in their 1980 document is this little side-dish diddy:

Page 10, footnote – Extremely Low Frequency (ELF) waves: ELF waves up to 100 Hz are once more naturally occurring, but they can also be produced artificially (such as for the Navy’s Project Sanguine for submarine communication). ELF-waves are not normally noticed by the unaided senses, yet their resonant effect upon the human body has been connected to both physiological disorders and emotional distortion. Infrasound vibration (up to 20 Hz) can subliminally influence brain activity to align itself to delta, theta, alpha, or beta wave patterns, inclining an audience toward everything from alertness to passivity. Infrasound could be used tactically, as ELF-waves endure for great distances; and it could be used in conjunction with media broadcasts as well. See Playfair, Guy L. and Hill, Scott, The Cycles of Heaven. New York: St. Martin’s Press, 1978, pages 130-140.

Please understand – these guys were talking about ELF waves being used for mass mind-control thirty-four years ago. While that astonishes us, it is but the beginning of a perilous plight on wings of unbridled science down into an abyss large enough to swallow up the entire earth and human race. ELF waves can make people sick, can change their moods, can speed them up and slow them down, and much much more. Imagine what controlled ELF waves might do to a young socio-path who has been on psychiatric drugs for a while, what ELF waves might impress such a mind to conceive, to act out, to say and/or do, at a movie theater in Colorado or a classroom in Connecticut…

(http://oathkeepers.org/oath/wp-content/uploads/DARPA-500x486.jpg)

(continued)

Title: Re: MindWar
Post by: Elias Alias on December 21, 2014, 09:34:38 pm

(continuing)

Our more advanced members here already know what DARPA is, but how many know about IARPA?

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“The technology behaves like a robot, understanding and answering complex questions,” said a former Aquaint researcher. “Think of 2001: A Space Odyssey and the most memorable character, HAL 9000, having a conversation with David. We are essentially building this system. We are building HAL.” – A Former AQUAINT researcher at IARPA.

Question: Aquino and Vallely were talking about ELF waves back in 1980 while serving their country in the 7th Psychological Operations Group of the US Army. What hath thirty-four subsequent years wrought?

I am going to offer readers a very important article from Washington’s Blog. I encourage all readers to read the article carefully.

The Next NSA Spying Shoe to Drop: “Pre-Crime” Artificial Intelligence

Posted on June 16, 2013 by WashingtonsBlog
NSA Building Big Brother “Pre-Crime” Artificial Intelligence Program

http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2013/06/the-next-nsa-spying-shoe-to-drop-artificialintelligence.html

Do we want the same small group of folks who have the power to suspend the Constitution, implement martial law, and imprison normal citizens to also be gathering information on all Americans and running AI programs to be able to predict where American citizens will go for help and what they will do in case of an emergency?
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Links from the article at Washington’s Blog:

Sentient world: war games on the grandest scale

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/06/23/sentient_worlds/

The DOD is developing a parallel to Planet Earth, with billions of individual “nodes” to reflect every man, woman, and child.
Called the Sentient World Simulation (SWS), it will be a “synthetic mirror of the real world with automated continuous calibration with respect to current real-world information”, according to a concept paper for the project.
“SWS provides an environment for testing Psychological Operations (PSYOP),” the paper reads, so that military leaders can “develop and test multiple courses of action to anticipate and shape behaviors of adversaries, neutrals, and partners”.

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The New Thought Police
The NSA Wants to Know How You Think—Maybe Even What You Think

• By James Bamford
• Posted 01.01.09
• NOVA

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/military/nsa-police.html

The National Security Agency (NSA) is developing a tool that George Orwell’s Thought Police might have found useful: an artificial intelligence system designed to gain insight into what people are thinking.

With the entire Internet and thousands of databases for a brain, the device will be able to respond almost instantaneously to complex questions posed by intelligence analysts. As more and more data is collected—through phone calls, credit card receipts, social networks like Facebook and MySpace, GPS tracks, cell phone geolocation, Internet searches, Amazon book purchases, even E-Z Pass toll records—it may one day be possible to know not just where people are and what they are doing, but what and how they think…

Known as Aquaint, which stands for “Advanced QUestion Answering for INTelligence,” the project was run for many years by John Prange, an NSA scientist at the Advanced Research and Development Activity. Headquartered in Room 12A69 in the NSA’s Research and Engineering Building at 1 National Business Park, ARDA was set up by the agency to serve as a sort of intelligence community DARPA, the place where former Reagan national security advisor John Poindexter’s infamous Total Information Awareness project was born. [NOVA Editor's note: TIA was a short-lived project founded in 2002 to apply information technology to counter terrorist and other threats to national security.] Later named the Disruptive Technology Office, ARDA has now morphed into the Intelligence Advanced Research Projects Activity (IARPA).

A sort of national laboratory for eavesdropping and other spycraft, IARPA will move into its new
120,000-square-foot home in 2009. The building will be part of the new M Square Research Park in College Park, Maryland. A mammoth two million-square-foot, 128-acre complex, it is operated in collaboration with the University of Maryland. “Their budget is classified, but I understand it’s very well funded,” said Brian Darmody, the University of Maryland’s assistant vice president of research and economic development, referring to IARPA. “They’ll be in their own building here, and they’re going to grow. Their mission is expanding.”…

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(to be continued, but I'm needing to do some other stuff right now, so more will follow later.)

Title: Re: MindWar
Post by: DiabloLoco on December 21, 2014, 09:56:37 pm

Quote from: Elias Alias on December 21, 2014, 09:34:38 pm

The National Security Agency (NSA) is developing a tool that George Orwell’s Thought Police might have found useful: an artificial intelligence system designed to gain insight into what people are thinking.

With the entire Internet and thousands of databases for a brain, the device will be able to respond almost instantaneously to complex questions posed by intelligence analysts. As more and more data is collected—through phone calls, credit card receipts, social networks like Facebook and MySpace, GPS tracks, cell phone geolocation, Internet searches, Amazon book purchases, even E-Z Pass toll records—it may one day be possible to know not just where people are and what they are doing, but what and how they think…

By accessing nielsen ratings and in some cases your IP address, they can also track what you watch AND when you are home. By accessing grocery store "buyers club cards", they can keep track of what you eat, and also any vices you may have (eg; alcohol/cigarettes). Even if you pay cash! All of this information can be compiled into a file and run through an algorithm that reveals a very detailed personality profile. This can then be used to target potential enemies of the state, gun owners, potential patsies, agent provocateurs, or any number of useful idiots. Of course, I can't PROVE that. It does seem likely though, given the complexity of the known algorithms used by Wall St. to predict future stock movements and such. 

Here's a link that shows just how far these computer algorithms have come since their inception just a mere generation ago-

How algorithms rule the world
http://www.theguardian.com/science/2013/jul/01/how-algorithms-rule-world-nsa

Title: Re: MindWar
Post by: Moonbeam on December 21, 2014, 11:03:26 pm

Elias, I appreciate your time and effort to educate. Will your information include any positive news? Any hope? Any suggestions for survival? :)

For anyone: Am the only one who has certain movies coming to mind as this is being read?

Title: Re: MindWar
Post by: Adventurer, Explorer, Inquiring Mind. on December 22, 2014, 01:53:34 am

Elias said:

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Please understand – these guys were talking about ELF waves being used for mass mind-control thirty-four years ago. While that astonishes us, it is but the beginning of a perilous plight on wings of unbridled science down into an abyss large enough to swallow up the entire earth and human race. ELF waves can make people sick, can change their moods, can speed them up and slow them down, and much much more. Imagine what controlled ELF waves might do to a young socio-path who has been on psychiatric drugs for a while, what ELF waves might impress such a mind to conceive, to act out, to say and/or do, at a movie theater in Colorado or a classroom in Connecticut…

I don't buy science being the culprit here.  It isn't science.  It is evil psychopathic jackassery that is to blame.  Power damaged minds, as someone else long ago may have said.  Having technology is one thing, the issue is that we know EXACTLY what these people will use it to accomplish.  Or attempt.  Frankly, I'm starting to get to the point where I'm simply not a fan of all this depressive defeated thinking.


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DiabloLoco said:

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By accessing nielsen ratings and in some cases your IP address, they can also track what you watch AND when you are home. By accessing grocery store "buyers club cards", they can keep track of what you eat, and also any vices you may have (eg; alcohol/cigarettes). Even if you pay cash! All of this information can be compiled into a file and run through an algorithm that reveals a very detailed personality profile. This can then be used to target potential enemies of the state, gun owners, potential patsies, agent provocateurs, or any number of useful idiots. Of course, I can't PROVE that. It does seem likely though, given the complexity of the known algorithms used by Wall St. to predict future stock movements and such. 

I call BS on some of this stuff.  Most of what they got is not "perfect."  They won't guess what you're thinking.  What they'll do is get a "good enough" picture.  Then again, as you may well notice, they send paramilitary death squads (SWAT teams) to blow up innocent harmless families and immolate their kids for no better reason than that an informant falsely SWATted those poor people.

Oh, we were dreaming up of shadow ops and other dark shit back when I was still active on the black hat / grey hat scene.  That was in my TEENS.  I haven't followed through, but I remember that quite often, nobody hacked anything, yet people got their heads cracked.  Some of the "uberhackers" were simply rich kids whose daddies bought them "hacking tools" on CD from work (that'd be "pen testing tools" for you pros out there.  Often times it was nothing more than NMAP with a decent in house produced front end, to replace the then exceedingly crappy "NmapFE.")

To put it into perspective, nothing is quite what people think it is.  In reality, the real threat is not the technology.  That supercomputer, that AI, that database, that particular type of tech, all of it and each of it could be better used to serve up more appropriate advertising for legit, CLEAN products.  The problem is that goobers don't want to play fair, honest, and live in the wondrous world of experience and knowledge.  They want to live in a world where everyone is kept in the dark, and all is ruled by highly compartmentalized psychopaths and their agencies.  Why they want to live like that?  Your guess is as good as mine.

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Moonbeam... don't worry.  Survival isn't the issue.  As I once said when I coined thrivalist as a term on this forum (other places before then, but there was a particular instance where I coined it here.)  It isn't about staying alive, every miserable slave is alive... what we want is to LIVE WELL.  And that is doable.  Even inside their system.

Title: Re: MindWar
Post by: Elias Alias on December 22, 2014, 02:30:39 am

Quote from: DiabloLoco on December 21, 2014, 09:56:37 pm

Quote from: Elias Alias on December 21, 2014, 09:34:38 pm

The National Security Agency (NSA) is developing a tool that George Orwell’s Thought Police might have found useful: an artificial intelligence system designed to gain insight into what people are thinking.

With the entire Internet and thousands of databases for a brain, the device will be able to respond almost instantaneously to complex questions posed by intelligence analysts. As more and more data is collected—through phone calls, credit card receipts, social networks like Facebook and MySpace, GPS tracks, cell phone geolocation, Internet searches, Amazon book purchases, even E-Z Pass toll records—it may one day be possible to know not just where people are and what they are doing, but what and how they think…

By accessing nielsen ratings and in some cases your IP address, they can also track what you watch AND when you are home. By accessing grocery store "buyers club cards", they can keep track of what you eat, and also any vices you may have (eg; alcohol/cigarettes). Even if you pay cash! All of this information can be compiled into a file and run through an algorithm that reveals a very detailed personality profile. This can then be used to target potential enemies of the state, gun owners, potential patsies, agent provocateurs, or any number of useful idiots. Of course, I can't PROVE that. It does seem likely though, given the complexity of the known algorithms used by Wall St. to predict future stock movements and such. 

Here's a link that shows just how far these computer algorithms have come since their inception just a mere generation ago-

How algorithms rule the world
http://www.theguardian.com/science/2013/jul/01/how-algorithms-rule-world-nsa

Hey Mon! Thank you for a great link. I've added it to my folder for future reference. Nice find.

Salute!
Elias

Title: Re: MindWar
Post by: Elias Alias on December 22, 2014, 03:03:32 am

Quote from: Moonbeam on December 21, 2014, 11:03:26 pm

Elias, I appreciate your time and effort to educate. Will your information include any positive news? Any hope? Any suggestions for survival? :)

For anyone: Am the only one who has certain movies coming to mind as this is being read?

Moonbeam, I think that the first thing I'm wanting to do is lay in the evidence which hopefully reinforces my basic premise that MindWar is very real and is being directed at the people of planet earth. After enough facts are laid in which support that premise, then we shall begin to discuss our reactions to the knowledge, and perhaps in so discussing we may come up with ideas to share with each other, ideas which would engender a sense of hope. The first step has to identify the problem and admit it is real. I personally think that to a large extent there is a concerted effort to shape, mold, forge, design, train, program, Feducate, and and finally insert a particular loosely-cohesive collection of mind-sets into the "group mind" (collective consciousness as Jung would put it) for purposes of controlling the masses in compliant subserviency to an arbitrary world government. But as earlier noted, once the target mind perceives what is being done to it, that mind has begun already to resolve the threat. It then becomes a matter of one's will-power to control the content of one's mind, which is why I think the Mental Militia is the perfect title under which to create an educational and pro-active resistance movement. It's a "Mental" Militia, right? What better name under which to organize the resistance could there possibly be?

Thank you for reading through all this morbidity, Moonbeam. I appreciate it. Personally, I'm a very happy old guy, and I see no reason we should not all be happy. I cherish beauty, sensitivity, and creativity, and my work, for which I'm now being paid, is to curtail the work of those who do not value such things. I am feeding squirrels, birds, turkeys, deer, and two cats at my log cabin in the north-country woods of NW Montana, with cell connection, Internet connection, a warm dry place for all my bookshelves, and an old guy's liberty to do with my days as I choose and wish. How an old uneducated eccentric and foreign war Veteran managed to get to such luxury is a story of hope, which is part of the good news we'll arrive at e're this discussion is done. A hint to keep your interest: Hope has to do with spirit, soul, and psyche as they are manifest into our material surroundings and mental moods.  ;)

In fact, I'll share with you a little something I wrote a while back, in hopes it will dull somewhat the pain of reading what the powers may wish to do with our lives -- one of my efforts at beauty and creativity.

ROOT AND BOUGH


It cannot be a metaorganism,
though it seems like one sometimes…….
It cannot really be something metachemical,
yet that is precisely what it is –
this nexus, this dancing gravity,
this impossible vibration of anti-matter atmosphere,
this insensible sensation of being
borne by breath.



Spirit, Soul, and Psyche each arrive in turn
before gravity, before a sensing of the world, like
a few invisible things surrounding and
containing something,
reflecting and concurring, like
a sunset and its reach of ivory beach sands;


and there stands man…


Can he know the high toll of dimensional dilution?
Are three tenses really enough?
At the very thought of it Psyche recedes into
Soul’s formless extensions,
and Soul withdraws into Spirit
where all are refined;
where matter becomes immaterial…


where, though they bore it together for their pleasure,
neither root nor bough can conceive
the secret in the seed.

If you like that kind of consciousness, let me know and I'll link you to more. Thanks Moonbeam.
Salute!
Elias

Title: Re: MindWar
Post by: Moonbeam on December 22, 2014, 03:18:41 pm

Thanks Elias. I think your posts should be relegated to my “daytime” reading! :laugh:

I am totally onboard the whole MindWar issue as it makes sense to me (especially when compared to things of a Biblical nature). I hope the thread will be a contender for a pin. At the risk of sounding Pollyanish, I must be honest: I am really looking forward to reading some encouragement. I was wondering if there was anything proactive happening or anything that I could do to take steps to protect me and mine. :)

EDIT TO ADD: Thank you also for sharing Root and Bough. I enjoyed that...

Title: Re: MindWar
Post by: MamaLiberty on December 22, 2014, 03:39:35 pm

Quote from: Moonbeam on December 22, 2014, 03:18:41 pm

I hope the thread will be a contender for a pin.

You got it. :)

Title: Re: MindWar
Post by: Moonbeam on December 22, 2014, 03:48:33 pm

Quote from: MamaLiberty on December 22, 2014, 03:39:35 pm

Quote from: Moonbeam on December 22, 2014, 03:18:41 pm

I hope the thread will be a contender for a pin.

You got it. :)

Oh, bless you!  :love4:

Title: Re: MindWar
Post by: DiabloLoco on December 22, 2014, 03:58:09 pm

Quote from: Moonbeam on December 22, 2014, 03:18:41 pm

I was wondering if there was anything proactive happening or anything that I could do to take steps to protect me and mine. :)

I can name a few small things that you can do.

1. Never use "buyers club cards" from any store.
2. Never sign up for a "rewards program" from any store.
3. Never provide your phone number or address when making purchases.
4. Pay cash whenever possible.

By doing these four simple things, you are denying access to critical information from people that could use it for nefarious means.  Also, those little cards and reward programs are a scam. Sure, you can save a few bucks by using those things, but ask yourself this- How much is your liberty worth? Are you willing to sell yourself out for a few measly FRNS? The stores collect data to sell to any and all comers. Government included!

I'm sure that there are many other things that can be done. It's all about doing whatever you can to keep as much information about you and yours as "off-grid" as possible.

Pretty much every person on these boards is on some type of government watchlist. Not because any of us have done anything, but because we have overcome the indoctrination and are deemed a threat by TPTB. We can think for ourselves!! Seemingly innocuous gathered data can EASILY be turned into a reason to lock you up, if they so desired. Don't make it easy for the bastards! Make em' WORK for it! :threvil:

Title: Re: MindWar
Post by: Elias Alias on December 26, 2014, 08:38:37 am

I had previously said:

Quote

Moonbeam, I think that the first thing I'm wanting to do is lay in the evidence which hopefully reinforces my basic premise that MindWar is very real and is being directed at the people of planet earth. After enough facts are laid in which support that premise, then we shall begin to discuss our reactions to the knowledge, and perhaps in so discussing we may come up with ideas to share with each other, ideas which would engender a sense of hope. The first step has to identify the problem and admit it is real. I personally think that to a large extent there is a concerted effort to shape, mold, forge, design, train, program, Feducate, and and finally insert a particular loosely-cohesive collection of mind-sets into the "group mind" (collective consciousness as Jung would put it) for purposes of controlling the masses in compliant subserviency to an arbitrary world government.

Let's lay in a bit more detail, and then perhaps we can move into discussion of proactive solutions which may be possible for we little people to embrace individually in our personal lives and routines.

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Link: http://www.smh.com.au/digital-life/consumer-security/google-for-spies-draws-ire-from-rights-groups-20130210-2e75y.html

From that link:

'Google for spies' draws ire from rights groups

Date
    February 11, 2013

A multinational security firm has secretly developed software capable of tracking people's movements and predicting future behaviour by mining data from social networking websites.

A video obtained by the Guardian reveals how an "extreme-scale analytics" system created by Raytheon, the world's fifth largest defence contractor, can gather vast amounts of information about people from websites including Facebook, Twitter and Foursquare.

Raytheon says it has not sold the software - named Riot, or Rapid Information Overlay Technology - to any clients. But the Massachusetts-based company has acknowledged the technology was shared with US government and industry as part of a joint research and development effort, in 2010, to help build a national security system capable of analysing "trillions of entities" from cyberspace.

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Google and NASA Snap Up Quantum Computer D-Wave Two
The machine will help the agencies work on artificial intelligence problems
May 17, 2013


D-Wave, the small company that sells the world’s only commercial quantum computer, has just bagged an impressive new customer: a collaboration between Google, NASA and the non-profit Universities Space Research Association.
The three organizations have joined forces to install a D-Wave Two, the computer company's latest model, in a facility launched by the collaboration — the Quantum Artificial Intelligence Lab at NASA's Ames Research Center in Moffett Field, California. The lab will explore areas such as machine learning — making computers sort and analyse data on the basis of previous experience. This is useful for functions such as language translation, image searches and voice-command recognition. “We actually think quantum machine learning may provide the most creative problem-solving process under the known laws of physics,” says a blog post from Google describing the deal.
The Google-led collaboration is only the second customer to buy computer from D-Wave, which is based in Burnaby, Canada. Aerospace giant Lockheed Martin, headquartered in Bethesda, Maryland, was the first. Lockheed purchased a D-Wave quantum computer in 2011 and installed it in a new Quantum Computation Center at the University of Southern California (USC) in Los Angeles. D-Wave declines to disclose the price of their computers.

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There are several headlines in this one article by Mike Adams. I recommend highly reading this entire article at its link:

Skynet rising: Google acquires 512-qubit quantum computer; NSA surveillance to be turned over to AI machines

Thursday, June 20, 2013  *  by Mike Adams

http://www.naturalnews.com/040859_Skynet_quantum_computing_D-Wave_Systems.html

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(NaturalNews) Most people don't know about the existence of quantum computers. Almost no one understands how they work, but theories include bizarre-sounding explanations like, "they reach into alternate universes to derive the correct answers to highly complex computational problems."

Quantum computers are not made of simple transistors and logic gates like the CPU on your PC. They don't even function in ways that seem rational to a typical computing engineer. Almost magically, quantum computers take logarithmic problems and transform them into "flat" computations whose answers seem to appear from an alternate dimension.

For example, a mathematical problem that might have 2 to the power of n possible solutions -- where n is a large number like 1024 -- might take a traditional computer longer than the age of the universe to solve. A quantum computer, on the other hand, might solve the same problem in mere minutes because it quite literally operates across multiple dimensions simultaneously.
The ultimate code breakers
If you know anything about encryption, you probably also realize that quantum computers are the secret KEY to unlocking all encrypted files. As I wrote about last year here on Natural News, once quantum computers go into widespread use by the NSA, the CIA, Google, etc., there will be no more secrets kept from the government. All your files -- even encrypted files -- will be easily opened and read.

Until now, most people believed this day was far away. Quantum computing is an "impractical pipe dream," we've been told by scowling scientists and "flat Earth" computer engineers. "It's not possible to build a 512-qubit quantum computer that actually works," they insisted.

Don't tell that to Eric Ladizinsky, co-founder and chief scientist of a company called D-Wave. Because Ladizinsky's team has already built a 512-qubit quantum computer. And they're already selling them to wealthy corporations, too.
DARPA, Northrup Grumman and Goldman Sachs
In case you're wondering where Ladizinsky came from, he's a former employee of Northrup Grumman Space Technology (yes, a weapons manufacturer) where he ran a multi-million-dollar quantum computing research project for none other than DARPA -- the same group working on AI-driven armed assault vehicles and battlefield robots to replace human soldiers. DARPA is the group behind the creepy "Legged Squad Support System" you can see in the following video:

INSERT DARPA VIDEO:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xY42w1w0TWk

Imagine a .50 caliber machine gun mounted on this robot -- with an infrared night vision AI targeting system -- and you begin to understand what DARPA has in mind for humanity.

D-Wave wants to provide the computing power for such endeavors, and it's no surprise to learn that part of the funding for D-Wave comes from none other than Goldman Sachs -- the king of the global criminal banking cabal.
Beware of genius scientists who lack wisdom for humanity
Ladizinsky is, by any measure, a person of extremely high intelligence. Click here to see a fascinating interview with him. But like many such people throughout history, Ladizinsky fails to have the foresight to recognize the full implications of the technology he's building. And those implications are so far-reaching and dangerous that they may actually lead to the destruction of humanity (see below).

One of IBM's first use of the solid-state computer in the early 20th century, for example, was to license it to the Nazi regime to track Jewish prisoners in Hitler's concentration camps. There's an entire book on this subject, written by Edwin Black. It's called IBM and the Holocaust: The Strategic Alliance Between Nazi Germany and America's Most Powerful Corporation-Expanded Edition.

When groundbreaking new technology is developed by smart people, it almost immediately gets turned into a weapon. Quantum computing will be no different. This technology grants God-like powers to police state governments that seek to dominate and oppress the People. Very few scientists, no matter how smart they are in their own fields, have the breadth of historical knowledge to assess their research activities in the proper context of human history. Most scientists, in fact, are only smart in their own extremely narrow fields of expertise. Outside that "genius zone," they may be complete novices on everyday subjects like nutrition, economics, human psychology, social interaction skills and how to read the true intentions of others. Thus, they are quite often easily tricked into working for evil, destructive or domineering forces such as Hitler, the NSA or the U.S. government. Just because a person is really smart in one area doesn't mean they have the street sense to avoid having their smarts exploited for an evil agenda.
Google acquires "Skynet" quantum computers from D-Wave
According to an article published in Scientific American, Google and NASA have now teamed up to purchase a 512-qubit quantum computer from D-Wave. The computer is called "D-Wave Two" because it's the second generation of the system. The first system was a 128-qubit computer. Gen two is now a 512-qubit computer.

This does not mean the gen two system is merely four times more powerful than the gen one system. Thanks to the nature of qubits, it's actually 2 to the power of 384 times more powerful (2384) than the gen one system. In other words, it out-computes the first D-Wave computer by a factor so large that you can't even imagine it in your human brain.

According to Google and NASA, this computer will be tasked with research in the realm of "machine learning" -- i.e. machines learning how to think for themselves. It's not just speech recognition, vision recognition and teaching robotic Humvees with .50-caliber machine guns how to stalk and shoot "enemy combatants" on the streets of America, either: it's teaching machines how to learn and think for themselves.

Using your human brain, think for a moment about where such technology is most likely to be applied by a government that respects no human rights, no law and no limits on its power. (end quoted passages from that article -- highly recommend reading the whole thing)

And while you are at Mike's page, be sure to view this video:  "Petman"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5S4ZPvr6ry4#t=61

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Indefinite Surveillance: Say Hello to the National Defense Authorization Act of 2014
June 20 2013
http://www.globalresearch.ca/indefinite-surveillance-say-hello-to-the-national-defense-authorization-act-of-2014/5339863

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Passed in 1978, the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA) set the groundwork for surveillance, collection, and analysis of intelligence gathered from foreign powers and agents of foreign powers, up to and including any individual residing within the U.S., who were suspected of involvement in potential terrorist activity.  On October 26, 2001, a little over a month after 9/11, President George W. Bush signed the USA Patriot Act into law. Two provisions, Sec. 206, permitting government to obtain secret court orders allowing roving wiretaps without requiring identification of the person, organization, or facility to be surveyed, and Sec. 215 authorizing government to access and obtain “any tangible thing” relevant to a terrorist investigation, transformed foreign intelligence into domestic intelligence.
NDAA 2014 builds on the powers granted by both the Patriot Act and FISA by allowing unrestricted analysis and research of captured records pertaining to any organization or individual “now or once hostile to the United States”.  Under the Patriot Act, the ability to obtain “any tangible thing” eliminated any expectation of privacy.  Under NDAA 2014 Sec. 1061(g)(1), an overly vague definition of captured records enhances government power and guarantees indefinite surveillance.
On May 22, 2013 the Subcommittee on Intelligence, Emerging Threats and Capabilities, one of several Armed Services Committees, met to discuss the National Defense Authorization Act(NDAA) for Fiscal Year 2014.  The main subject of the hearing was Sec. 1061, otherwise known as Enhancement of Capacity of the United States Government to Analyze Captured Records. This enhancement provision of   NDAA 2014 would effectively create a new intelligence agency, one with the authority to analyze information gained under the Patriot Act, FISA, and known spying programs such as PRISM.
Sec. 1061(a) authorizes the Secretary of Defense to “establish a center to be known as the ‘Conflict Records Research Center’” (Center). The main purpose of the center, according to the bill text, is to create a “digital research database,” one with the capability to “translate” and facilitate research on “records captured from countries, organizations and individuals, now or once hostile to the United States.” The authorization also says the Center will conduct research and analysis to “increase the understanding of factors related to international relations, counterterrorism and conventional and unconventional warfare, and ultimately, enhance national security.”


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NSA Spying On Americans EFF 2014
https://www.eff.org/nsa-spying


News reports in December 2005 first revealed that the National Security Agency (NSA) has been intercepting Americans’ phone calls and Internet communications. Those news reports, combined with a USA Today story in May 2006 and the statements of several members of Congress, revealed that the NSA is also receiving wholesale copies of American's telephone and other communications records. All of these surveillance activities are in violation of the privacy safeguards established by Congress and the US Constitution.
In early 2006, EFF obtained whistleblower evidence (.pdf) from former AT&T technician Mark Klein showing that AT&T is cooperating with the illegal surveillance. The undisputed documents show that AT&T installed a fiberoptic splitter at its facility at 611 Folsom Street in San Francisco that makes copies of all emails web browsing and other Internet traffic to and from AT&T customers and provides those copies to the NSA. This copying includes both domestic and international Internet activities of AT&T customers. As one expert observed, “this isn’t a wiretap, it’s a country-tap.”
Secret government documents, published by the media in 2013, confirm the NSA obtains full copies of everything that is carried along major domestic fiber optic cable networks.  In June 2013, the media, led by the Guardian and Washington Post started publishing a series of articles, along with full government documents, that have confirmed much of what was reported in 2005 and 2006 and then some. The reports showed-and the government later admitted -that the government is mass collecting phone metadata of all US customers under the guise of the Patriot Act. Moreover, the media reports confirm that the government is collecting and analyzing the content of communications of foreigners talking to persons inside the United States, as well as collecting collecting much more, without a probable cause warrant. Finally, the media reports confirm the “upstream” collection off of the fiberoptic cables that Mr. Klein first revealed in 2006.

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NSA seeks to develop quantum computer to crack nearly every kind of encryption
January 3, 2014

http://www.kurzweilai.net/nsa-seeks-to-develop-quantum-computer-to-crack-nearly-every-kind-of-encryption

.... the core of a future NSA quantum computer for cracking nearly every kind of encryption used to protect banking, medical, business and government records around the world?

According to documents provided by former NSA contractor Edward Snowden, the effort to build “a cryptologically useful quantum computer” is part of a $79.7 million research program titled “Penetrating Hard Targets,” The Washington Post revealed Thursday.

Much of the work is hosted under classified contracts at this laboratory, the newspaper says. On its website, the lab mentions its work on quantum mechanical effects in superconducting circuits at a temperature of about 10 mK (barely above absolute zero), using a superconducting charge qubit or Cooper-pair box.

According to the Post, the NSA is expected to be able to have some building blocks by the end of September, which it described in a document as “dynamical decoupling and complete quantum ­control on two semiconductor qubits.”

Another project, called “Owning the Net,” aims at quantum-based attacks on encryptions, the Post says.

“The application of quantum technologies to encryption algorithms threatens to dramatically impact the US government’s ability to both protect its communications and eavesdrop on the communications of foreign governments,” the Post said, based on an internal document provided by Snowden.

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See also the Washington Post's article: http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/nsa-seeks-to-build-quantum-computer-that-could-crack-most-types-of-encryption/2014/01/02/8fff297e-7195-11e3-8def-a33011492df2_story.html

(continued)

Title: Re: MindWar
Post by: Elias Alias on December 26, 2014, 08:50:51 am

(continuing)

The below is my wrap-up from my massive article on Operation American Spring, back in May of 2014. I think it fits here and wraps up the initial presentation of data.(An addendum will happen later on this thread. It will introduce my files on MAIN CORE.

The problem is huge and growing more ominous by the minute. Let us try to wrap up this advisory now. The reason I introduced the idea of “MindWar” in my assessment on OAS has to do with General Vallely’s history of activism with Colonel Riley in the past, and with General Vallely’s co-authorship of the document “From PSYOP to MindWar” in 1980. Additionally I note that General Vallely is pro-actively attempting to collar the Tea Party energy. Why I question his connecting the dots between Operation American Spring and the Tea Party and the forced replacement of various named individuals inside the current Federal administration/cabinet, has to do with the additional fact that General Vallely also feels justified in arranging the overthrow of a foreign government (Syria).

The need for Americans to read and understand our history has never been greater. The role of the individual in today’s world has never been so completely attacked. I hope that I’ve posed enough questions about marching on WDC and how the OAS could, possibly, fit into a greater plan named “MindWar”. Note please: I am not saying that OAS is a part of a MindWar or other type of Psychological Operation. I am saying that it would be beneficial to know whether it is or not. What do you think?

What we do know is that some people in our government want an excuse to launch Martial Law and suspend the Constitution. Could a risk-laden mass crowd in WDC provide the catalyst (even if provocateured) for a geo-temporal police state and suspension of the Constitution? Any massive event in WDC has a potential to turn dangerous, as our WWI Vets learned when the Bonus Army came to town.

>>>View YouTube accounting of the Bonus March:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dWvCCxOUsM8

Be not deceived. The battle we’re involved in, whether any of us know it or not, is a spiritual battle. While spirit does not operate in flesh, it does operate in mental fields of consciousness. Spirit also drives that inner aspect of consciousness which we call “conscience”. Conscience is where we discern our truest identity, is where we decide between Good and Evil, between Right and Wrong. It is central to the character of a man or woman. While it never forces itself upon the soul in which it is found, one’s conscience also never deceives one.

I have called the government many things, but at its core it is a mechanism. It is soul-less, mindless, and is certainly indifferent. Government’s primary motive is to grow its powers, concentrate its powers, and use those powers to – to do what? – to GOVERN.

All it requires to do that exclusively is for the American citizen as an individual to become apathetic and forget to govern himself, forget to remind himself to remain eternally vigilant in the oversight of his own government.

As Lao Tzu said approximately 2500 years ago – “When mankind lost sight of the way to live, came codes of law and order.”

Our nation’s Founders knew well how to live and they understood why they wanted to live free. As subsequent generations followed over time, the eroded values and moral codes of the Founders have given way finally to a welfare-warfare state, and no march on WDC without guns will accomplish anything other than a whimper in the press.
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Two things:

1) The reason why the American people are not required to swear [or affirm] the Oath to the Constitution is because the American people reserve to themselves the Right of Revolution. If our government becomes unbearable, we have the right and the duty to throw it down and start over, using whatever means we may have. I salute Thomas Jefferson for making sure that we have that understanding.

2) Short of Revolution, I strongly urge American patriots to focus at the most central area of responsibility – your “self”. I urge you to make sure that you own your own minds, that you have moral values firmly instituted in your lifestyle, that those values extend that basic knowledge to every family member, to neighbors, to friends, and to others in every community.

More effective than marching on WDC is sharing the truth with one’s own neighbor, one-on-one. My new personal motto for 2014 is:
“Each One Teach One”.

Get your own copy of the very important film, MOLON LABE**, and have screenings in your homes and offices for friends and neighbors. You’ll save tons of money that would have been wasted in WDC and actually be doing something helpful for our nation while improving your own neighborhood and community, your County and State. The battleground today is in our own front yards. Local action is the focus. The revolution is inside the mind and heart and soul of the individual American citizen.

Colonel Riley is undoubtedly a conscientious Patriot who is willing to try to lead an unwitting America out of the snare of evil. I have every reason to believe Colonel Riley is a good man and an honest man.  I do believe that he has allowed the influence of a MindWar specialist to focus his attention on solving our problems within that circle of sin called WDC. I cannot agree with him on his choice of theater. I prefer to act locally, because history shows clearly that centralized governance in WDC is corrupted beyond repair. There is no answer for the Patriot movement in WDC. There is every hope for our nation’s salvation if we the people simply turn our back on WDC and walk away from it, allowing it to fall of its own dead weight. It is time to rebuild our neighborhoods and our communities. Good strong neighborhoods and communities make for strong Counties, and strong Counties make for strong States. Strong States are needed to control the idiocy parading itself in mockery in Federal agencies and departments. The States created the damned thing, and the States shall have to place it back under their control. When enough Americans reclaim our own minds, our own perceptions of truth, our own mindsets of justice, our States will interpose and protect us from Federal tyranny.

Thank you for reading such a long piece.

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** The movie MOLON LABE is online for free viewing. I am proud to have been an associate producer on the film, as well as on our upcoming movie, MIDNIGHT RIDE. For MOLON LABE go here:

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLVCYZiC20h35tqdAc78DYKeMIwHrFSwwb

Salute!
Elias Alias

Title: Re: MindWar
Post by: Klapton Isgod on December 26, 2014, 12:29:53 pm

Quote from: Elias Alias on December 26, 2014, 08:50:51 am

Be not deceived. The battle we’re involved in, whether any of us know it or not, is a spiritual battle. While spirit does not operate in flesh, it does operate in mental fields of consciousness. Spirit also drives that inner aspect of consciousness which we call “conscience”. Conscience is where we discern our truest identity, is where we decide between Good and Evil, between Right and Wrong. It is central to the character of a man or woman. While it never forces itself upon the soul in which it is found, one’s conscience also never deceives one.

My comment about this might seem like a nit-pick, but I think what I have to say is important enough to say it anyway...

One's conscience CAN deceive one's self, because a conscience can be damaged.  A conscience can be weakened.  A conscience can be itself deceived.

A conscience must be exercised, trained, and "programmed" to function properly.  Much of this "mind war" involves the deliberate re-programming and altering of people's consciences.  We are indoctrinated from a very young age through our culture, religions, media, and especially schools to conform and submit to authority.  This programming is SO strong, that most people never even question the "authority" of government, and they knee-jerk react to anyone who does.

Until someone unlearns and deprograms themselves from this idea that "some are more equal than others," and begin applying the quiet input of their conscience not only to their own individual actions toward other individuals, but also to the actions of government and other collective entities, they will continue to suffer cognitive dissonance that overpowers and distorts the messages received from their conscience.

Perhaps if we view a properly functioning conscience (the words "well regulated" come to mind) as that voice that never lies to us, I can agree.  But it takes practice and training to learn how to discern that voice.  One must learn to identify all those other voices that overpower and distort the voice of conscience and screen them out.

In other words...  The whole point of this site and the mission of a "mental militia."

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Title: Re: MindWar
Post by: Elias Alias on December 26, 2014, 04:38:31 pm

Quote from: Klapton on December 26, 2014, 12:29:53 pm

Quote from: Elias Alias on December 26, 2014, 08:50:51 am

Be not deceived. The battle we’re involved in, whether any of us know it or not, is a spiritual battle. While spirit does not operate in flesh, it does operate in mental fields of consciousness. Spirit also drives that inner aspect of consciousness which we call “conscience”. Conscience is where we discern our truest identity, is where we decide between Good and Evil, between Right and Wrong. It is central to the character of a man or woman. While it never forces itself upon the soul in which it is found, one’s conscience also never deceives one.

My comment about this might seem like a nit-pick, but I think what I have to say is important enough to say it anyway...

Not a "nit-pick" at all, Bro. In fact, this post you've rendered is a most excellent addition. I see your comment as a sort of meta-gyroscope which corrects or trues the balance in what I was trying to say.

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One's conscience CAN deceive one's self, because a conscience can be damaged.  A conscience can be weakened.  A conscience can be itself deceived.

Absolutely -- in some perspectives. I am reminded of something I personally heard Cliven Bundy say. It was a comment which the media took to international extremes in misinterpreting. They ran with it, spun it out of context to quickly divert the public's attention so that no one might actually think about it. I chanced to be there with my video camera and got this on my own camera. Mr. Bundy was talking about the plight of the blacks in cities. He pondered if those blacks (not talking about the blacks who are relatively independent and resourceful and personally responsible people) who live in government housing projects in inner cities are any better off than black slaves of the 1800s, and he indicated that it is possible that they may be even worse off in the ghetto projects than their forebears of the early 1800s. (Of course the MSM turned that into a "racist" spin immediately, but again, I've got the footage of his comments that afternoon and could, if we could post videos here, or if I could learn how to do it, show the true context of what he was saying.) But to the point: Inner city ghetto-gov housing projects are visible to anyone who wants to drive into them and look for himself. Mr. Bundy was saying that he's been through those ghettos in Los Angeles and had seen youth sitting on concrete steps with "nothing to do". He was lamenting what has been made of humans by the welfare-warfare government.

Holding that image in mind, there is also the soul-searching fiction of William Faulkner, who's writings revealed crude "down-south rural backward development of individuals who seemed to have lost all sensitivity to any goodness in life, men who would burn a neighbor's barn, or their own, or mash the accelerator pedal in their cars after a cold-start before the oil pan had time to warm the oil -- just insensitive men, which put one in mind of the rural bumpkins in the movie "Deliverance".

This sort of human exists in pockets of society here and there, and of course there are the wife-abusers and child abusers etc etc even in more educated or "proper" social classes. And I have stated, whilst trotting along at a speedy pace in hopes of getting enough material built into this thread, that all consciences are "equal". And you have wisely pointed out the fact that I was not being completely factual on this one point. I value your addition to the thread very highly and am grateful you chose to "nit-pick" on this. Very grateful indeed.

Inner-city urban poor-people from broken homes, or dysfunctional homes in which abusive parenting marks the young soul of helpless children before they can escape that molding and forging, is known to produce adults who are arguably possessed of faulty consciences. Some of them are to be found on death row in prisons, while most meld quietly into areas of society away from public view and perpetuate in their own way the next generation's mal-formed consciences by siring children into dysfunctional homes or families, etc.

But a fine-point question arises -- and I must say here that I'm really in a rush at the moment and only wanted to make a positive reply to your post but do not have time to say all I'd like to say about your observations, so must leave this post incomplete for the moment -- What is the relationship between the mind and the conscience?

I learned last year that about, or approximately, forty percent of the human heart tissue is comprised of neuro-cells! I will come back here this evening to go more deeply into your excellent comments, and to talk about how a man can "think with his head, or think with his heart"; how a man can "speak from his mind, or speak from his heart", or how a man can perceive life from the perspective of his subconscious anima or from his conditioned mental states. 

And the point being: is it the conscience which has been dulled and programmed wrongly, or is it the mind which has been thusly abused, that produces dysfunctional behavior, or is it the conscience? And what is the relationship between the mind and the conscience, if they are not one and the same? I'm looking forward to getting back here after I get some other things handled today.

Thanks mucho, Klapton. Excellent post.

Salute!
Elias

Title: Re: MindWar
Post by: Adventurer, Explorer, Inquiring Mind. on December 26, 2014, 07:24:56 pm

Quote from: Klapton on December 26, 2014, 12:29:53 pm

Quote from: Elias Alias on December 26, 2014, 08:50:51 am

Be not deceived. The battle we’re involved in, whether any of us know it or not, is a spiritual battle. While spirit does not operate in flesh, it does operate in mental fields of consciousness. Spirit also drives that inner aspect of consciousness which we call “conscience”. Conscience is where we discern our truest identity, is where we decide between Good and Evil, between Right and Wrong. It is central to the character of a man or woman. While it never forces itself upon the soul in which it is found, one’s conscience also never deceives one.

My comment about this might seem like a nit-pick, but I think what I have to say is important enough to say it anyway...

One's conscience CAN deceive one's self, because a conscience can be damaged.  A conscience can be weakened.  A conscience can be itself deceived.

A conscience must be exercised, trained, and "programmed" to function properly.  Much of this "mind war" involves the deliberate re-programming and altering of people's consciences.  We are indoctrinated from a very young age through our culture, religions, media, and especially schools to conform and submit to authority.  This programming is SO strong, that most people never even question the "authority" of government, and they knee-jerk react to anyone who does.

Until someone unlearns and deprograms themselves from this idea that "some are more equal than others," and begin applying the quiet input of their conscience not only to their own individual actions toward other individuals, but also to the actions of government and other collective entities, they will continue to suffer cognitive dissonance that overpowers and distorts the messages received from their conscience.

Perhaps if we view a properly functioning conscience (the words "well regulated" come to mind) as that voice that never lies to us, I can agree.  But it takes practice and training to learn how to discern that voice.  One must learn to identify all those other voices that overpower and distort the voice of conscience and screen them out.

In other words...  The whole point of this site and the mission of a "mental militia."

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This is actually a legit concept, and I look forward to reading what else Elias has to say on it besides his excellent follow up post.  I myself hold that most of it is conscious and subconscious mind training.  What I find amusing, is that the same people the government went out of its way to villify in my childhood (the hacker movement, the internet underground, etc) has produced some of the greatest unsung heroes and freedom oriented publishers and minds of our generation.  In fact, most of us who grew up and contributed in those days, while most are suffering outrage fatigue (myself included) I must admit, we turned out better than most far as our disdain for the control freakery or the stupid and inane people at the levers of power in every society.  The questions we asked in those days, got some of us in hot water, and others in prison.  Some murdered, and all of us screwed over, black balled or otherwise treated as criminals (and some of us didn't break into other people's servers, I for one, built my own for my experimentation, and then went on to do it for a living, just an FYI.)

The issue is that, as I say in my posts on religion, most minds are trained to OBEY since childhood.  The subconscious mind absorbs training, call it muscle or emotional memory.  It processes things at a much faster rate when sleeping, because it is operating without the constant outside stimulus interrupts of the conscious mind, think of the conscious mind as a desktop kernel, and the subconscious mind as a server kernel, or better yet, the subconscious works like a backend driver and the conscious works as a basic software program.  (That's why we say "sleep on it."   Without any outside stimuli, visual at least, one notes that one can come to what is generally an accurate answer to a difficult question, often perfectly in line to one's ingrained values.  If those values are damaged, the answer is likely to also be damaged... exactly what Elias and Klapton had to say.)

So back to the point, minds trained to question, and be skeptical of claims which are wrong, whether phrased wrong or simply factually wrong, basically any accurately trained scientific mind, not necessarily every scientist, but any who took their logical training and put it to use in daily life, not just at work, will end up being this way.  The faith prioritizing mind, which I often rail against, is trained to obey what its been taught by figures or documents of authority, regardless of how provable, disprovable or outright lies they might be.  Granted, the faith prioritizing mind is given the comfort that regardless what facts it meets, it can suitably twist the interpretation of the facts to suit its existing faith.  This is how the non psychopathic, but obedient government drone justifies coming to your house, kicking your door in, and shooting you dead if you resist, all the while "just doing its job."

"...Cause, without no rules, well, we might as well have anarchy."  This line is always delivered by the faithf prioritizing minds as a given, without even knowing WHY they're supposed to believe anarchy would be a bad thing.  As ML and others (myself included) have said here and elsewhere, "Anarchy doesn't mean no rules.  It just means no rulers, no masters and no slaves."

Hope this adds to the conversation and gives a different set of data to work with.

Title: Re: MindWar
Post by: Elias Alias on December 27, 2014, 07:37:39 am

Quote from: Moonbeam on December 22, 2014, 03:18:41 pm

Thanks Elias. I think your posts should be relegated to my “daytime” reading! :laugh:

I am totally onboard the whole MindWar issue as it makes sense to me (especially when compared to things of a Biblical nature). I hope the thread will be a contender for a pin. At the risk of sounding Pollyanish, I must be honest: I am really looking forward to reading some encouragement. I was wondering if there was anything proactive happening or anything that I could do to take steps to protect me and mine. :)

EDIT TO ADD: Thank you also for sharing Root and Bough. I enjoyed that...

Well, Moonbeam, the reason I've been posting here lately has to do with some vague and nebulous idea which is trying to form itself in my consciousness. That idea would call for creating a structure in which women could participate in opposing the danged MindWar assault on America. Mothers, wives, sisters, daughters, cousins, girlfriends -- all women in all sorts of relationships with their men as husbands, sons, brothers, etc etc.  I am looking for a motif which could become the brand for such a structure, and I have hoped that TMM could be the launching pad for a group activity comprised of women. Something like an organization of "Guerrilla Grrls" which would unite women of all walks to become a powerful resistance to MindWar.

Guerrilla Grrls could be structured as a serious "psy-op" on behalf of We The People, and it could wage high holy war on the idiocy of WDC. How would the Grrls do that? Well, women have their ways, lol! ;)

Guerrilla Grrls could unite to pressure the several States to revitalize their now-absent State Offices for the Militia, in each State capitol. Guerrilla Grrls could put pressure on the national government to cease with these insane, illegal, unlawful, and immoral (undeclared) wars overseas. Guerrilla Grrls could bring pressure to end the insane "war on drugs" and the even more insane "war on terror".

I would see Guerrilla Grrls as a group of highly knowledgeable, very alert and aware, and keenly patriotic women who would like to help America return to its Constitutional founding roots, its moral uprightness, its tried-and-true value systems, its cultural ethics, and its social institutions. Guerrilla Grrls would be comprised of regiments of women who would read, study, and report data and info to a central assembly. They would be educating themselves while sharing their knowledge with others. I see it as a fun project which renders a confidence in all women who would join in the fight against tyranny. I see a potential for good humor, and for recognition of traditional powers which women have always enjoyed over men.  As editor for Oath Keepers I have met a number of wonderful ladies who would love to take a more proactive role in supporting the Constitution, in ending the insane wars, in dis-empowering the police state, in kicking the damned government out of our personal lives, in truly giving "peace" a chance. I will be conferring with those friends who enjoy talking with me about such things, and I hope to pool their ideas into something fun and productive at the same time. I would recruit very intelligent, highly sensitive women of good moral stature who would be delighted to take a more active role, and who have had it with the way men have been running this country. They would be libertarian, Voluntaryistic, anarchistic free-thinkers of all stripes, sort of like the cross-section of members here at TMM, but with a focused mission, a battle-plan if you will. I can see a lot of potential in such an idea, but I am only in the earliest stages of its conception. I hope to get some responses here which will help me see a more complete idea for developing such a Guerrilla Grrls psy-op as the resistance to MindWar.

More on all that later, yes? Meanwhile, what do you think about the idea?

Salute!
Elias

Title: Re: MindWar
Post by: DiabloLoco on January 07, 2015, 01:39:49 pm

I just started a thread that may have "Mindwar" written all over it. Here is a link to the thread-

http://thementalmilitia.com/forums/index.php?topic=34699.new#new

I didn't think about posting it here until after I hit the "post" button. Please feel free to move it here if you think it makes sense to.

It has to do with classifying disobedience and non-conformity as a mental illness. Being diagnosed with this new classification, would get the cops knocking on your door at 3am to confiscate your guns.

Title: Re: MindWar
Post by: MamaLiberty on January 07, 2015, 02:41:42 pm

I suspect the link to the other thread is sufficient, DL. There are so many other things that might "fit" too, but the thread will get too large and cumbersome if we try to include everything. Just start new threads and link to them. You could put a link to this thread there too. :)  Maybe we need a new child board?

Title: Re: MindWar
Post by: Elias Alias on January 10, 2015, 03:49:20 pm

Well, I see that my last post on this thread did not hit anyone's hot button. Too bad. I really do think that women have a calling to put an end to the insanity of berserk governmentalism everywhere.  And I really do like the term "Guerrilla Grrls". ;)

Guerrilla Grrls would be fighting to undo the mindset that has been inserted into the national psyche, the collective consciousness. There is a movie by James Jaeger called "Cultural Marxism". It's about how the socialist/communist idiots came to America and began what they called a "long march through the institutions", in which they intended to re-make the American perception of many social and cultural institutions, such as "marriage" or "family" or "religious belief". They infiltrated the public education through the NEA and later the US Dept. of Education, shifting students' perceptions with corrupted ideas about "it takes a village" and later the "no child left behind" and now the "common core" collectivist paradigm. They infiltrated over the decades the legislative processes and the corporate thrusts of Wall Street and Madison Avenue. They used the great Tax-Exempt Foundations to spur along the development of sciences which would create a false sense of security and comfort for the masses, like "television". They sought to corrupt our traditional language. They went into the press and the media and Hollywood. In short, they permeated every aspect of American life and sought to isolate family members from each other, and isolate families from their communities. They got into governmental offices and began to assert a power to affect domestic policy as well as foreign policy. They boosted the collectivist "Progressive Movement" which was entrenched by the Wilson administration and carried that forward. They moved into the unions. Again, in short, they assaulted everything American and did so deliberately, openly publishing in books and films what their objectives were -- the destruction of American freedom in favor of a collectivist freedom which would be a deception sponsored by statism's advocates. And the American people, distracted, well-fed in general, entertained, and Feducated over several generations, fell for it.

I think that Mothers and Wives and Sisters and Daughters have a calling to expose how this was done and influence the men in their lives, or in their spheres, to wake up to the reality of this psychological onslaught and do something about it. Grrls with a mission. Grrls with a sense of humor. Grrls who mean business and recognize their power and are willing to use it. Grrls who care enough to put their foot down. Why are high school students allowed to graduate without knowledge of the Constitution? Why are high school graduates not informed about the illegality and futility and evil of undeclared wars for corporate interests? Why are they not taught at home that to die in Afghanistan or Iraq is just the same as those who died in Vietnam -- dying for nothing. Why do our American women put up with this sort of insanity, and fail to alert their young high school kids to the stupidity of joining the military during times when America is not under attack? Is there some sort of invisible blanket of ignorance covering the land from sea to shining sea?

Why should not TMM take the initiative and start publicly promoting a return to traditional American values, such as personal responsibility and the liberty that produces? Personal ownership and self-determination are under siege. What can we do about it here at TMM?  Am I being too narrow by focusing only on the women? Should I also be seeing a support battalion of psy-warriors who are men in support of the Guerrilla Grrls' mission? What do you think? Any ideas?

Salute!
Elias

Title: Re: MindWar
Post by: MamaLiberty on January 10, 2015, 04:20:00 pm

Far too many women today, of all ages, do not know how to cook with fresh food. They don't know how to shop. Far too many have no idea where food comes from beyond the grocery store. They don't garden, can, or preserve anything. They don't sew or mend anything. They don't know how to clean anything, or understand what clean really is. I could go on for ages.

Seems to me that women who do know those things might attempt to teach the younger ones. That information is far more related to their self ownership, responsibility and freedom than the constitution.

I've been trying to teach these things for most of my adult life. So far, I have found few willing to make the effort or take the time.

Title: Re: MindWar
Post by: Cyrellys on January 11, 2015, 10:32:04 am

Hi Everyone,

I understand what Elias is suggesting with regards to women.  In ancient times and even to some degree in more modern times one role women played in Western society was that of what Celtic peoples referred to as Land Sovereigns.  Moderns sometimes call it the Feminine Sovereign, although this role can also be played to some degree by individual men as well.  A Land Sovereign is a person who holds a deep connection to both mankind's collective consciousness and to the more elemental consciousness of the planet's biosphere.  A Land Sovereign with the additional deep connection to the third possible Consciousness, that of the Universal Source is referred to as Synchronicity's Apprentice.  In ancient times the role these land sovereigns played was to evaluate and sanction a leader, whether that leader happened to be a war chief, a king, queen, or some intellectual with leadership influence. 

It was believed it takes two forms of sanction to make a leader, the first being of the People themselves.  If a leader or a government does not have the will of the People behind them then it disqualifies itself and something will come along and destroy it.  The second form was of those who's perception runs deep through the fabric of our reality, the land sovereigns.  There have been ages when there were many who worked together in this capacity.  There have also been times when only a sole individual served in this manner.  Some of the things they did was evaluate morals, ethics, intellectual capacity, spiritual quality, knowledge acumen, and the relationship with the standing paradigm for probability of success.  They also served as teachers and guides within society, applying sometimes a subtle and other times overt influence toward fulfillment of human Potential.  Qualifications demanded that they be tied to the land the people lived on, be creators of life, guardians of life, natural nurturers, and often educated to the best the society was capable.  Many are also commonly known in history as poets or musicians, in other words expressing art.

It's well known in intellectual circles that women have this innate talent for this sort of thing.  Women often guide the men around them by hook or by crook as the saying goes...either gently and subtly or through shear threat of force.  On rare occasions, land sovereigns have stood up and actually led in the absence of a traditional type of leader or government.  Examples include Medb of Eire a war chief,  Tomyris of the Massagetae (Herodotus tale of how she handled the tyrant Cyrus of Persia), Boadicea of Britain, Dido of the Phoenicians (founder of Carthage), Plaisance of Antioch,  Elizabeth I of England, Joan de Arc, Sirikit of Thailand, and many many others in the fore and behind the scenes.  There's a book Guida M Jackson titled "Women Who Ruled" which is a virtual encyclopedia of known examples.

Elias is not advocating someone jump up and run for the Presidency.  He's advocating creating a group that uses this innate talent toward the restoration of the qualities that built this nation and made it a positive place in this world in the first place.  A resistance to the mindwar being waged on the People to deconstruct them, immobilize them, and strip their freedoms from them, piece by piece.

We currently have a distinct shortage of real leaders in our nation.  I think a huge part of that is the effect the mindwar has had across the board on individuals and how individuals are perceived by both themselves and others.  When a people are restricted from communicating openly with each other, freely, in contexts of the moment for whatever reason, then how can the People even lend their will toward any leader or government?  This is just one of the crates the manipulators of society have thrust the people into....consider for a moment those who work...they are the vast majority of the People.  And they cannot speak to their fellows or those they encounter in the course of their work unless it has specifically to do with the work they are employed for.  If the finest hours of the People's day is conscripted in this way, what is left to consider how they are governed or socially engineered?  Only the worst hours of there day is left and most are left exhausted and despondent upon the vicious merry-go-round tread-mill of their lives to the point of not caring about what is external to their lives.  It is from this condition we begin with the People.  This condition makes women perhaps the most apropos to taking them in had and shaking them from their exhausted zombie-fied state.

Cy

Title: Re: MindWar
Post by: DiabloLoco on January 11, 2015, 11:07:59 am

Cyrellys,

The Iroquois had a similar system. The main problem today, is that there are very few women with the right personality type to be able to do this. For example, women with a "INTJ" or "ENTJ" personality, only make up approximately .8% of the general population. I think that's what ML was saying. That said, MOST of the female members here are INTJ (males too), or very close to it.

Title: Re: MindWar
Post by: Cyrellys on January 11, 2015, 11:27:53 am

Quote from: DiabloLoco on January 11, 2015, 11:07:59 am

Cyrellys,

The Iroquois had a similar system. The main problem today, is that there are very few women with the right personality type to be able to do this. For example, women with a "INTJ" or "ENTJ" personality, only make up approximately .8% of the general population. I think that's what ML was saying. That said, MOST of the female members here are INTJ (males too), or very close to it.

I won't denigrate the hard research that shows personality to play a role in how individuals apply themselves and garner forms of success in life.  But our nation was built to nurture human potential and that capacity to exceed boundaries, restraints, and stumbling blocks in the pursuit of individual ideas of happiness.

To limit potential based on personality type is similar to limit potential based on traditional concepts of education level, IMO.  I was raised to understand that each person is greater than their birth.  This also means that at any moment in their lives they are capable of exceeding all expectations.  It doesn't require any kind of personality to do this.  It only requires an innate sense of what is right.  There have always been people who despite incomplete education, or non-traditional forms have exceeded what was believed to be necessary to succeed in life.  This is no different.  This is about escaping entropy which threatens to swallow our nation and all of mankind by consequence.  I refuse to believe we're bagged, tagged, and roasted before we even start because of some vague concept of personality type.

How about we think of ways to be successful instead of ways we cannot? 

Cy

Title: Re: MindWar
Post by: MamaLiberty on January 11, 2015, 11:34:49 am

Quote from: DiabloLoco on January 11, 2015, 11:07:59 am

For example, women with a "INTJ" or "ENTJ" personality, only make up approximately .8% of the general population. I think that's what ML was saying. That said, MOST of the female members here are INTJ (males too), or very close to it.

No, that's not what I was saying. :) This "personality type" stuff is more confusing than enlightening, far as I'm concerned.

Women today do not know how to cook or do any of those things because they were never taught them. Their mothers didn't know, and quite often their grandmothers didn't know. You can't teach what you don't know. Add to that all of the "sexual revolution," the preoccupation with pop culture, and now the glut of electronic media distractions... they don't see any need to learn these things and have no cultural foundation to see the need for them. Meat comes from the grocery store, and money comes from the government.

In order for anyone to lead... or choose a leader, they first have to know what direction they want to go.

Title: Re: MindWar
Post by: Cyrellys on January 11, 2015, 12:49:46 pm

Quote from: Elias Alias on December 26, 2014, 08:38:37 am

I had previously said:

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Moonbeam, I think that the first thing I'm wanting to do is lay in the evidence which hopefully reinforces my basic premise that MindWar is very real and is being directed at the people of planet earth. After enough facts are laid in which support that premise, then we shall begin to discuss our reactions to the knowledge, and perhaps in so discussing we may come up with ideas to share with each other, ideas which would engender a sense of hope. The first step has to identify the problem and admit it is real. I personally think that to a large extent there is a concerted effort to shape, mold, forge, design, train, program, Feducate, and and finally insert a particular loosely-cohesive collection of mind-sets into the "group mind" (collective consciousness as Jung would put it) for purposes of controlling the masses in compliant subserviency to an arbitrary world government.

Let's lay in a bit more detail, and then perhaps we can move into discussion of proactive solutions which may be possible for we little people to embrace individually in our personal lives and routines.

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Link: http://www.smh.com.au/digital-life/consumer-security/google-for-spies-draws-ire-from-rights-groups-20130210-2e75y.html

From that link:

'Google for spies' draws ire from rights groups

Date
    February 11, 2013

A multinational security firm has secretly developed software capable of tracking people's movements and predicting future behaviour by mining data from social networking websites.

A video obtained by the Guardian reveals how an "extreme-scale analytics" system created by Raytheon, the world's fifth largest defence contractor, can gather vast amounts of information about people from websites including Facebook, Twitter and Foursquare.

Raytheon says it has not sold the software - named Riot, or Rapid Information Overlay Technology - to any clients. But the Massachusetts-based company has acknowledged the technology was shared with US government and industry as part of a joint research and development effort, in 2010, to help build a national security system capable of analysing "trillions of entities" from cyberspace.

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Google and NASA Snap Up Quantum Computer D-Wave Two
The machine will help the agencies work on artificial intelligence problems
May 17, 2013


D-Wave, the small company that sells the world’s only commercial quantum computer, has just bagged an impressive new customer: a collaboration between Google, NASA and the non-profit Universities Space Research Association.
The three organizations have joined forces to install a D-Wave Two, the computer company's latest model, in a facility launched by the collaboration — the Quantum Artificial Intelligence Lab at NASA's Ames Research Center in Moffett Field, California. The lab will explore areas such as machine learning — making computers sort and analyse data on the basis of previous experience. This is useful for functions such as language translation, image searches and voice-command recognition. “We actually think quantum machine learning may provide the most creative problem-solving process under the known laws of physics,” says a blog post from Google describing the deal.
The Google-led collaboration is only the second customer to buy computer from D-Wave, which is based in Burnaby, Canada. Aerospace giant Lockheed Martin, headquartered in Bethesda, Maryland, was the first. Lockheed purchased a D-Wave quantum computer in 2011 and installed it in a new Quantum Computation Center at the University of Southern California (USC) in Los Angeles. D-Wave declines to disclose the price of their computers.

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There are several headlines in this one article by Mike Adams. I recommend highly reading this entire article at its link:

Skynet rising: Google acquires 512-qubit quantum computer; NSA surveillance to be turned over to AI machines

Thursday, June 20, 2013  *  by Mike Adams

http://www.naturalnews.com/040859_Skynet_quantum_computing_D-Wave_Systems.html

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(NaturalNews) Most people don't know about the existence of quantum computers. Almost no one understands how they work, but theories include bizarre-sounding explanations like, "they reach into alternate universes to derive the correct answers to highly complex computational problems."

Quantum computers are not made of simple transistors and logic gates like the CPU on your PC. They don't even function in ways that seem rational to a typical computing engineer. Almost magically, quantum computers take logarithmic problems and transform them into "flat" computations whose answers seem to appear from an alternate dimension.

For example, a mathematical problem that might have 2 to the power of n possible solutions -- where n is a large number like 1024 -- might take a traditional computer longer than the age of the universe to solve. A quantum computer, on the other hand, might solve the same problem in mere minutes because it quite literally operates across multiple dimensions simultaneously.
The ultimate code breakers
If you know anything about encryption, you probably also realize that quantum computers are the secret KEY to unlocking all encrypted files. As I wrote about last year here on Natural News, once quantum computers go into widespread use by the NSA, the CIA, Google, etc., there will be no more secrets kept from the government. All your files -- even encrypted files -- will be easily opened and read.

Until now, most people believed this day was far away. Quantum computing is an "impractical pipe dream," we've been told by scowling scientists and "flat Earth" computer engineers. "It's not possible to build a 512-qubit quantum computer that actually works," they insisted.

Don't tell that to Eric Ladizinsky, co-founder and chief scientist of a company called D-Wave. Because Ladizinsky's team has already built a 512-qubit quantum computer. And they're already selling them to wealthy corporations, too.
DARPA, Northrup Grumman and Goldman Sachs
In case you're wondering where Ladizinsky came from, he's a former employee of Northrup Grumman Space Technology (yes, a weapons manufacturer) where he ran a multi-million-dollar quantum computing research project for none other than DARPA -- the same group working on AI-driven armed assault vehicles and battlefield robots to replace human soldiers. DARPA is the group behind the creepy "Legged Squad Support System" you can see in the following video:

INSERT DARPA VIDEO:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xY42w1w0TWk

Imagine a .50 caliber machine gun mounted on this robot -- with an infrared night vision AI targeting system -- and you begin to understand what DARPA has in mind for humanity.


And while you are at Mike's page, be sure to view this video:  "Petman"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5S4ZPvr6ry4#t=61

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Indefinite Surveillance: Say Hello to the National Defense Authorization Act of 2014
June 20 2013
http://www.globalresearch.ca/indefinite-surveillance-say-hello-to-the-national-defense-authorization-act-of-2014/5339863

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Passed in 1978, the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA) set the groundwork for surveillance, collection, and analysis of intelligence gathered from foreign powers and agents of foreign powers, up to and including any individual residing within the U.S., who were suspected of involvement in potential terrorist activity.  On October 26, 2001, a little over a month after 9/11, President George W. Bush signed the USA Patriot Act into law. Two provisions, Sec. 206, permitting government to obtain secret court orders allowing roving wiretaps without requiring identification of the person, organization, or facility to be surveyed, and Sec. 215 authorizing government to access and obtain “any tangible thing” relevant to a terrorist investigation, transformed foreign intelligence into domestic intelligence.


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NSA Spying On Americans EFF 2014
https://www.eff.org/nsa-spying


News reports in December 2005 first revealed that the National Security Agency (NSA) has been intercepting Americans’ phone calls and Internet communications. Those news reports, combined with a USA Today story in May 2006 and the statements of several members of Congress, revealed that the NSA is also receiving wholesale copies of American's telephone and other communications records. All of these surveillance activities are in violation of the privacy safeguards established by Congress and the US Constitution.
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NSA seeks to develop quantum computer to crack nearly every kind of encryption
January 3, 2014

http://www.kurzweilai.net/nsa-seeks-to-develop-quantum-computer-to-crack-nearly-every-kind-of-encryption

.... the core of a future NSA quantum computer for cracking nearly every kind of encryption used to protect banking, medical, business and government records around the world?

See also the Washington Post's article: http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/nsa-seeks-to-build-quantum-computer-that-could-crack-most-types-of-encryption/2014/01/02/8fff297e-7195-11e3-8def-a33011492df2_story.html

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I trimmed the above quote a bit so scroll down to the original for the en toto. 

This is right on track. 

See this and note how all the same players are involved.

By Tom Burghardt
Global Research, October 03, 2013
Url of this article:
http://www.globalresearch.ca/us-cyber-commands-plan-x-pentagon-launching-covert-cyber-attacks/5352627

“Carpet bombing in cyberspace,” Plan X, SIGINT Enabling Project, GENIE, TURBINE, Presidential Policy Directive 20 and much more.  Reflect the relationship to the eugenics culture and total information control or applied psychological control in addition to traditional kinetic attacks.

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In Cities Under Siege, Graham discussed the effects of post-Cold War US/NATO air bombing campaigns and concluded that attacks on civilian infrastructure were not accidental; in fact, such “collateral damage” was consciously designed to inflict maximum damage on civilian populations.
“The effects of urban de-electrification,” Graham wrote, “are both more ghastly and more prosaic: the mass death of the young, the weak, the ill, and the old, over protracted periods of time and extended geographies, as water systems and sanitation collapse and water-borne diseases run rampant. No wonder such a strategy has been called a ‘war on public health,’ an assault which amounts to ‘bomb now, die later’.”
A further turn in US Cyber Command’s brief to plan for and wage aggressive war, was telegraphed in a 2012 Defense Department Directive mandating that autonomous weapons systems and platforms be built and tested so that humans won’t lose control once they’re deployed.

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"In fact, PPD-20 authorizes US Cyber Command to “identify potential targets of national importance where OCEO can offer a favorable balance of effectiveness and risk as compared with other instruments of national power.”
Indeed, the “directive pertains to cyber operations, including those that support or enable kinetic, information, or other types of operations . . . that are reasonably likely to result in ‘significant consequences’” to an adversary.
We are informed that “malicious cyber activity” is comprised of “Activities, other than those authorized by or in accordance with US law, that seek to compromise or impair the confidentiality, integrity, or availability of computers, information or communications systems, networks, physical or virtual infrastructure controlled by computers or information systems, or information resident thereon.”
In other words, if such activities are authorized by the President acting as Commander-in-Chief under the dubious “Unitary Executive” doctrine, like Richard Nixon, Obama now claims that “when the President does it that means that it is not illegal,” a novel reading of the US Constitution and the separation of powers as it pertains to declaring and waging war!"

FYI the human mind is the original quantum computer.  Their drive to develop computers with these capabilities is not based on provision for the welfare of the prior.  At the root of every effort along these lines have been found the beliefs the world is over populated - that it's time to cull the herd, and mankind is incapable of making their own decisions. A lack of value in the sanctity of life.  Understanding the extent to which Mindwar is being used, the products it is manufacturing, and who is deeply involved in it, is imperative to deciding how best to deal with the problem.

Cy

Title: Re: MindWar
Post by: Elias Alias on January 11, 2015, 07:04:33 pm

Cy, thank you.

I have just read over your entries on page four of this thread and am excited by the way you see past my insufficient presentation and have given readers here a better view and perspective on how we should view MindWar -- and on what I'm trying to do about it.  I will be back to respond to your excellent posts more directly as soon as I can, but just wanted you to know in the meantime that I've found them and am grateful to you.

Salute!
Elias

Title: Re: MindWar
Post by: Cyrellys on January 11, 2015, 10:02:40 pm

Oh not insufficient at all Elias!  You set the Moon in motion!

For the pikes must be together by the rising of the moon
Death to every foe and traitor! Whistle out the marchin' tune
And hurrah, me bous, for freedom at the rising of the moon

From the use of our personal libraries, to the dedication of our ships, the Old Irish stood when tyranny exceeded its rightful boundaries.  For the mind and for the land as shield wall...

It was in Maine the first ship was taken.  http://www.libertyhallmaine.org/battle.php
When the British threatened to burn Machias the People responded with "Strike to The Sons of Liberty" which message meant that the Brits were to surrender on June 11, 1775.

To follow was the flag of our clannod that flew at the masts of our merchant ships.  It was given to Washington's chosen man to fly above all the new nation's ships when we answered the call for assistance at the rising of the moon.  A white field with the green tree of life.

For a time it was the flag of the new navy. 

Recognizing the needs of the people, the land and the soul of a world has been our lot in the past.  While mine have faded, the moon still commands the tides ebb and flow.  And if enough of mine remained to protest it would be a small matter, for it was a promise made farther back in time than any memory today can accurately mark, to keep the watch.  I'm not much in the great scheme of things Elias, but perhaps, just perhaps, one rain drop will raise the sea once more.  If by some chance we cannot alter the course of the ship then bypass the Reaper by way of the Roar within, raise the sails and bend the great ship into the wind to take wing from the cliff and may the far side hove soon into view.  Like no other, she was built for storm.

For the pikes must be together by the rising of the moon
At the rising of the moon at the rising of the moon
And an army fights for freedom at the rising of the moon

http://www.lyricsfreak.com/t/the+high+kings/the+rising+of+the+moon_20910872.html

The High Kings: Rising of the Moon
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xQZLYseqNu4

Title: Re: MindWar
Post by: Moonbeam on January 14, 2015, 03:46:20 pm

Elias,
A lack of response on my end was not indication of boredom for your thoughts. Familial needs will always come first, something I am sure you agree with.

I have no hesitation with the darker side of things, if you will, as it seems totally plausible to me. You did a very thorough and fantastic job laying down the background of it all. Like you said, now comes the brainstorming part.

I totally dig your enthusiasm for wanting to start a woman’s group and I am right there with you. How to do so? I haven’t the faintest! A few years ago I was so gun-ho to pack up and move to someplace like Montana. I was already there in spirit, DH just needed a job. Doors opened up here and I feel very blessed to live here, though I dream of moving from time to time. I would love to be on the ground floor of something amazing – even something I feel passionate about, which is educating and inspiring and blessing other mommy’s. What exactly that looks like, I honestly don’t know!

Until then, I am diligently looking for opportunities to get other women to think. I mean really think, by reaching them through in an area I know best: their feelings. I believe I have a good example - my memory triggered by a thread created by RVM45 regarding a conversation that went little awry with his sister.

The other night coming home from my homeschooling meeting (a few of us moms meet once a month) the companion in my car brought up a law in Germany that will not allow parents to name their children anything they want. She said she doesn’t think everyone should be told what to do by the government, but… there oughta be a law about not naming your kids something harmful.

I listened to her, nodded my head and said, “I understand. People can be quite outlandish in their choices. And you hate to see a child live under the seemingly insanity of their parents naming them something with Hitler or Stalin in it. Or having to be harassed mercilessly for being named Kandy Kane or Little Bo Beep. However, as much as I don’t want to see that, what I definitely don’t want to see are laws being passed saying that a parent doesn’t have that choice. The problem isn’t that someone might do something we think is outrageous, the problem is that once you make a law, you have to enforce it.* And who, in their right mind would say that it is okay to jail a parent because they named their child Krispy Kreme or Aunt Joo-joo or Donald Trump? Why on earth would you separate a child from their mom [gotta bring it home] because of a name? Why would you deprive and punish a child like that? Because remember, if there is a law it must be enforced. Could you enforce it?”

Perhaps I am onto to something… Perhaps I will work on some ideas I can implement in my little world of influence… And perhaps in doing so I might be able to come up with something useful (a girl can dream, right?!?) in regards to your idea…

*Nod of thanks to Silver!

Title: Re: MindWar
Post by: MamaLiberty on January 14, 2015, 03:51:59 pm

Quote from: Moonbeam on January 14, 2015, 03:46:20 pm

Why on earth would you separate a child from their mom [gotta bring it home] because of a name? Why would you deprive and punish a child like that? Because remember, if there is a law it must be enforced. Could you enforce it?”

No fair to tease like that! What did your companion answer to those questions? :)

Title: Re: MindWar
Post by: Moonbeam on January 14, 2015, 04:09:49 pm

Opps, sorry!  :laugh: She was silent - the good kind, the kind that you know what you just said kinda punched them in the gut. And I delivered it with an angelic voice, I might add. Then she quietly said, "No."

Title: Re: MindWar
Post by: StillaGhost on April 26, 2015, 12:31:35 pm

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Title: Re: MindWar
Post by: StillaGhost on April 26, 2015, 12:38:35 pm

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Title: Re: MindWar
Post by: MamaLiberty on April 26, 2015, 12:44:41 pm

Quote from: StillaGhost on April 26, 2015, 12:38:35 pm

    Ok M.L. , you raise a good point. However I personally feel that the skills you cite within the above should be applicable to all humans.....including the testosterone ridden.

Very true, men should definitely be included... but I find even fewer of them who are the least interested. My own sons knew how to cook, clean, garden and mend simple things while they were at home, and both of the older ones still do most of the cooking in their homes. Best yet, however, is that they truly understand what goes into doing those jobs, so they more fully appreciate the efforts of others as well.

Title: Re: MindWar
Post by: Splash22 on August 08, 2016, 06:40:07 pm

Mindwar..........

My loathing of the military is only refreshed by these articles.

It answers so many questions, namely, will the military follow unconstitutional orders "and fire on citizens"?
 If you and I are merely reading this, can you imagine how saturated  to their cerebral cortex, the military is in this tripe?

Congress surely knows about these programs, just as they knew about performing hundreds (?) of lobotomies (and 43 other nefarious programs) performed on their own men and unknowing civilians.

Not many would believe this extremely well funded "horror movie" is real. It's more like a cheap "c" movie from the '50's. The only thing missing are the paper 3-d glasses.

That's how they get away with it.
 I've been following it for years and still cannot grasp the depths...
~S