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Title: If one ever needed a reason to homeschool - you might find it here.
Post by: mutti on December 04, 2009, 10:56:43 pm
**Not really for kidlets***

Okay. The article is pretty graphic and in en effort to make sure that some of the books were indeed "graphic" - I looked up a few.

If the following article and even the possibility of what types of reading material are being suggested for use are true -  :puke:


Breaking: Obama’s “Safe Schools Czar” Is Promoting Child Porn in the Classroom– Kevin Jennings and the GLSEN Reading List (http://gatewaypundit.firstthings.com/2009/12/breaking-obamas-safe-schools-czar-is-promoting-porn-in-the-classroom-kevin-jennings-and-the-glsen-reading-list/)

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To that end, GLSEN maintains a recommended reading list of books that it claims “furthers our mission to ensure safe schools for all students.” In other words, these are the books that GLSEN’s directors think all kids should be reading: gay kids should read them to raise their self-esteem, and straight kids should read them in order to become more aware and tolerant and stop bullying gay kids. Through GLSEN’s online ordering system, called “GLSEN BookLink,” featured prominently on their Web site, teachers can buy the books to use as required classroom assignments, or students can buy them to read on their own.

I don't care what someone's personal sexual choice is. It is none of my business just as it is none of anyone elses business whether I like to put on heels, a gun belt and run around trying to retake the Alamo in order to achieve gratification. But in a public school?

Maybe it's just knee-jerk because some of the material for grades 7 - 12 are very frank and descriptive.

What happened to just being a kid?
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Post by: Bennie on December 05, 2009, 01:13:07 am
Oh crap! That ain't for kidlets or adults!
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Post by: gaurdduck on December 06, 2009, 08:59:08 am
Good reason. Damn good reason. Actually It is even a good reason to move to some other country.
Which I am looking into along with my other land searches within the country.
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Post by: warbourne on December 08, 2009, 04:36:33 am
What's that song...

"It's the end of the world as we know it..."

Sure sounds like a campaign slogan for apocalypse advocates.
(and I was starting to think I wasn't going to agree with luffy on anything)  ^_^
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Post by: Howard on January 31, 2010, 08:47:44 pm
God save us. And this crap is being pushed by one of Obama's Czars? I'm not sure if it's appropriate to pray for his salvation or for divine retribution to find him swiftly. This is just staggering material!

I'm sure glad to have been home schooled.
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Post by: gaurdduck on January 31, 2010, 08:52:29 pm
I'm praying for the divine retribution. A pillar of fire or cloudless bolt of lighting would be nice and "freak phenomenon" enough that it won't start a civil war.
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Post by: Winston on February 12, 2010, 12:03:01 pm
Holy shit! I was just expecting to see a dull, none-too-edgy teen romance novel with gay charachters, being all prepared to come back in here and say "aww come on guys it's not that bad..." That stuff is just perverted, adults shouldn't be reading that. (and ya'll know thats saying something coming from me :thrshocker:)
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Post by: Moonbeam on February 15, 2010, 03:57:35 pm
I'm sickened, saddened and sometimes feel utterly helpless to protect the innocents of this pathetic world...
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Post by: mutti on February 15, 2010, 05:43:34 pm
Holy shit! I was just expecting to see a dull, none-too-edgy teen romance novel with gay charachters, being all prepared to come back in here and say "aww come on guys it's not that bad..." That stuff is just perverted, adults shouldn't be reading that. (and ya'll know thats saying something coming from me :thrshocker:)
I'm a little more opened minded than judging someone else's personal issues. If an adult chooses to read (insert whatever) - well fine. To make it part of a mandated curriculum - too edgy for my blood.

Good news is we, as parents, are not helpless. We discussed homeschooling pre-minion stage and it has worked in our situation.
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Post by: Winston on February 15, 2010, 07:22:18 pm
Holy shit! I was just expecting to see a dull, none-too-edgy teen romance novel with gay charachters, being all prepared to come back in here and say "aww come on guys it's not that bad..." That stuff is just perverted, adults shouldn't be reading that. (and ya'll know thats saying something coming from me :thrshocker:)
I'm a little more opened minded than judging someone else's personal issues. If an adult chooses to read (insert whatever) - well fine. To make it part of a mandated curriculum - too edgy for my blood.

Right, which is why I only said "shouldn't" rather than "shouldn't be legal"...you can't stop people from being perverts, nor should you. I should know, I am one...but the gay pedo stuff is pretty far out there. I'm pretty normal as sexual deviants go. :laugh:
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Post by: DreamingWest on March 11, 2010, 09:22:08 am
That is literary child porn, plain and simple. Any adult who proposes exposing children to such filth should be completely shunned by the community, driven into the wilderness and scorned forever. There was nothing "educational" about those writings, unless one considers it educational to sexualize children and groom them for future contact with pedophiles, rapists, and other predatory exploiters.

I can't believe what I just read. The word "Satanic" comes to mind. This is nothing short of raw, unadulterated evil.

You know, I just realized that my line in the sand will be an attempt to restrict or even outlaw homeschooling. I will go underground and live in a shanty with my children before I'll surrender them to state control. "Over my dead body" sums it up.
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Post by: mutti on March 24, 2010, 03:33:55 pm

Mother furious after in-school clinic sets up teen's abortion (http://www.komonews.com/news/local/88971742.html)

First mistake - sending her to a public school.

Second mistake - assuming:

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When she signed a consent form, Jill figured it meant her 15 year old could go to the Ballard Teen Health Center located inside the high school for an earache, a sports physical, even birth control, but not for help terminating a pregnancy.

Third mistake - not knowing what was going on in her childs life:
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Jill says her daughter, a pro-life advocate, was given a pass, put in a taxi and sent off to have an abortion during school hours all without her family knowing.

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But Jill says she not only didn't have a say in her daughter's abortion, but also didn't know about it.

So if the 15 year old had died or developed complications - what exactly would have happened? Who would have been responsible?

I am now going to rant - please excuse me while I do -

What in the sam-hill is going on in this country. Most 15 year olds ( but not all) take hours to decide what to wear to school. How can a complex issue be addressed by the school, decided, and implemented without parental consent.  How young does this policy cover - 10, 12, ??

Yes - the minor was having sex. It happens no matter what parents say/do/etc. But perhaps there was an alternative here and maybe the outcome would have been the same - she will never know because she wasn't given the opportunity to use this experience to be involved and grow the relationship with her child.

I have to say I am honestly shocked and it takes quite a bit to get me there.

Algebra, Art and Abortion - subjects I never thought would be combined in school.

mutti


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Post by: Winston on March 24, 2010, 08:30:27 pm

Mother furious after in-school clinic sets up teen's abortion (http://www.komonews.com/news/local/88971742.html)

First mistake - sending her to a public school.

Second mistake - assuming:

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When she signed a consent form, Jill figured it meant her 15 year old could go to the Ballard Teen Health Center located inside the high school for an earache, a sports physical, even birth control, but not for help terminating a pregnancy.

Third mistake - not knowing what was going on in her childs life:
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Jill says her daughter, a pro-life advocate, was given a pass, put in a taxi and sent off to have an abortion during school hours all without her family knowing.

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But Jill says she not only didn't have a say in her daughter's abortion, but also didn't know about it.

So if the 15 year old had died or developed complications - what exactly would have happened? Who would have been responsible?

I am now going to rant - please excuse me while I do -

What in the sam-hill is going on in this country. Most 15 year olds ( but not all) take hours to decide what to wear to school. How can a complex issue be addressed by the school, decided, and implemented without parental consent.  How young does this policy cover - 10, 12, ??

Yes - the minor was having sex. It happens no matter what parents say/do/etc. But perhaps there was an alternative here and maybe the outcome would have been the same - she will never know because she wasn't given the opportunity to use this experience to be involved and grow the relationship with her child.

I have to say I am honestly shocked and it takes quite a bit to get me there.

Algebra, Art and Abortion - subjects I never thought would be combined in school.

mutti




On the bright side; A would be teen mother got an abortion....
Title: Re: If one ever needed a reason to homeschool - you might find it here.
Post by: mutti on March 24, 2010, 10:12:40 pm
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On the bright side; A would be teen mother got an abortion....

Believe it or not, the abortion is not the key issue here. The issue is the apparent  blatant superseding of parental rights.

We can "what if" this to death with all of the possibilities that could have been discussed among the Family, however that option was removed by the State.

That is the issue.
Title: Re: If one ever needed a reason to homeschool - you might find it here.
Post by: Rarick on March 25, 2010, 03:39:02 am
The state has been trying to impose its values over family values for how long now?  The "great Society" welfare program done by Johnson back in the 60's was the biggest and most effective effort in supplanting a lot of family functions with state programs.  Wea are just seeing a lot of the logical conclusions coming home to roost now.
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Post by: Winston on March 25, 2010, 10:29:59 am
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On the bright side; A would be teen mother got an abortion....

Believe it or not, the abortion is not the key issue here. The issue is the apparent  blatant superseding of parental rights.

We can "what if" this to death with all of the possibilities that could have been discussed among the Family, however that option was removed by the State.

That is the issue.

I get it, hence the "on the bright side" comment...

While I don't disagree with abortion, even abortion without a parents approval, I don't think the public school system should have any say whatsoever in such matters.
Title: Re: If one ever needed a reason to homeschool - you might find it here.
Post by: mutti on March 25, 2010, 12:23:05 pm
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I get it, hence the "on the bright side" comment...

Okay. I didn't know it was TIC and I was thinking "What is Winston Thinking?"  mutti
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Post by: motomom on March 27, 2010, 04:52:38 pm
I really don't care if someone is gay.  I really don't care if they are straight.  I just don't think it is any of my business, and I don't think they should tell me.  I NEVER heard my parents discussing the particulars of their bedroom.

My MOM taught me about sex, and I still think it should be the parent's job to teach this stuff.  NOT the school.  It just has no place in the school. 

In school, we need to be teaching hot and heavy in math and science.  Not this crap.
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Post by: Winston on March 27, 2010, 07:14:04 pm
It just has no place in the school. 

Yeah it does...it's called the lunch table ^_^
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Post by: gaurdduck on March 28, 2010, 02:00:39 am
Knock it off W, you're gonna scare her. Schools ain't the way they used to be.
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Post by: motomom on March 28, 2010, 09:00:44 pm
Knock it off W, you're gonna scare her. Schools ain't the way they used to be.

Nah, I was a middle school teacher for 5 years.  I've already seen that.  I just don't think we need to be teaching it.
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Post by: Junker on March 29, 2010, 12:51:25 am
You know, I just realized that my line in
the sand will be an attempt to restrict or
even outlaw homeschooling. I will go
underground and live in a shanty with
my children before I'll surrender them
to state control.

The base proposition comes to who owns whom...
even the 'little bit' of slavery starts the growth
pattern. Then soon enough, there's a big group
of us in those underground-shanty villages. And
of course, "they were just trying to help."

The trends don't look like they'll be stopping any
time soon, so shanty towns ought to be on the way.
(Perhaps even Detroit will grow again.)
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Post by: DreamingWest on March 29, 2010, 04:08:08 pm
The base proposition comes to who owns whom...
even the 'little bit' of slavery starts the growth
pattern. Then soon enough, there's a big group
of us in those underground-shanty villages. And
of course, "they were just trying to help."

The trends don't look like they'll be stopping any
time soon, so shanty towns ought to be on the way.
(Perhaps even Detroit will grow again.)

I agree completely. Statist tyrants always couch their bullying in sentiments like "Think of the children!" and "It's for your own good!" I believe most of them are pretty stupid but not flat-out evil, so they have to come up with good excuses for their wicked behavior so they can sleep at night. (There's no shortage of evil statists, but your average slave isn't evil--just incapable of critical thinking and terminally scared of life without Mommy State. It really is a mental defect, IMHO.)

On the bright side, the shanty villages will turn out the next generation's brightest minds and best thinkers. And having grown up with nothing they'll be tough, resourceful, and self-sufficient. The slavers don't stand a chance against them. :mellow:
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Post by: Junker on March 29, 2010, 09:17:02 pm
On the bright side, the shanty villages will turn out
the next generation's brightest minds and best thinkers.
And having grown up with nothing they'll be tough,
resourceful, and self-sufficient. The slavers don't stand
a chance against them. :mellow:

 :laugh:
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Post by: motomom on April 20, 2010, 12:57:42 am

On the bright side, the shanty villages will turn out the next generation's brightest minds and best thinkers. And having grown up with nothing they'll be tough, resourceful, and self-sufficient. The slavers don't stand a chance against them. :mellow:


YES!!!

We ended up living in a mobile home park for a bit of time when my kids went to school, the only MH park in a town full of very ritzy high-dollar houses and a school with kids driving Cameros, Corvettes, and Mercedes.

Out of our little MH park, there were, while my kids were in that high school, 10 members of the top 10 percent of the class, the valedictorian (my kid) and the salutatorian.  Boy, were there some really pissed off rich kids that year.
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Post by: Bennie on May 07, 2010, 05:18:17 am
This is the story that the teachers unions wish had never happened. This is the story that proves all their hysterical demands for more money are nothing but a sham. This is the story that makes the unions and education bureaucrats sick to their stomachs. This is the personal story of my daughter Dakota Root.

A few days ago, Dakota Root achieved her lifelong dream. She was accepted at both Harvard and Stanford. She was also accepted at Columbia, Penn, Brown, Duke, Chicago, Cal-Berkeley, USC and several more of the elite schools in America, an unheard of record for a home-school kid. She actually had the confidence to turn down an offer from the Yale fencing coach before she had gotten her other acceptances. The kid turned down Yale!

http://whiskeyandgunpowder.com/homeschool-to-harvard/


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Post by: mutti on May 07, 2010, 08:16:24 am
Thank you. mutti
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Post by: RagnarDanneskjold on May 25, 2010, 11:48:11 pm
This is the story that the teachers unions wish had never happened. This is the story that proves all their hysterical demands for more money are nothing but a sham. This is the story that makes the unions and education bureaucrats sick to their stomachs. This is the personal story of my daughter Dakota Root.

...


That's wonderful!
Title: Re: If one ever needed a reason to homeschool - you might find it here. (Montana
Post by: mutti on August 01, 2010, 09:14:42 am
Proposed Sex Ed Has Parents Outraged in Montana (http://888webtoday.com/articles/viewnews.cgi?id=EkZAVVlFAFSJCDqPlo)

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Most of a new health studies curriculum currently on the table inside the Helena, Montana, school district is a virtual nonissue going into the 2010 school year.

But the sex education component dominating the news in the past week or so is still as contentious as ever, inspiring parents from all across the Big Sky capital to descend on the school board in a collective voice of strong opposition.

This is a "one way" news source, so I tried to determine where the guidelines come from.

Here: SIECUS (Sexual Information and Education Council of the United States (http://www.siecus.org/index.cfm?fuseaction=page.viewPage&pageID=631&nodeID=1)) -
didn't know such an animal existed. 

For those who have children in PSing, you may want to read the 112 page PDF (http://www.siecus.org/_data/global/images/guidelines.pdf) of the guidelines that are currently what "should" be taught in school. Some of it is banal "everyone deserves to be loved" and some is a bit out of my acceptability level (i.e. Kindergarten discussion of Masturbation, STDs, and Religion).

As a HSing parent, these "Standards" tend to irritate me more than alarm me, but "forewarned is forearmed" applies for others.




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Post by: Jarel on August 01, 2010, 08:02:22 pm
+1, Rarick. Well said. IMHO.
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Post by: Rarick on August 03, 2010, 04:58:00 am
Before public education, sex education was ,literally, taught by animals.........  Any farm kid with a brain can watch the chickens and cows playing and see what is involved, unedited and uncut the way life teaches best.  It is the job of parents to make sure that the conceptualization step of the learning process gets handled properly..... "humans are a bit different", ya know.
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Post by: Bennie on August 03, 2010, 05:07:49 am
As a little boy, one of my earliest memories was riding through the pastures and asking my Grandfather what that cow and bull were doing. "Servicing her," was the reply.  I was not real sure what he meant but I kinda got it. When I became older, the answer was , "They are making us money." I understood completely.
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Post by: gaurdduck on August 03, 2010, 12:09:08 pm
As a little kid I had almost no social life outside of family, so I read my encyclopedias. In so doing, I read about how life takes place in the first grade... When my folks tried to give me "the talk" in the 9th grade it confused the hell outta me. I eventually figured out that they giving a very roundabout description of the mating habits of Humans. I still don't know what birds and bees have to do with it. LOL

can you imagine the looks on their faces when I explained how it really worked?  :laugh:
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Post by: mutti on August 15, 2010, 05:43:56 pm
Saving money!

 A sound economic principle is to HS and therefore save the costs of picking up all those required "list" items. Our local costs (for 3 minions) would run about $610 total not counting the fees (sports fee, admin fee, lunch fee, counseling contribution, art fee,  etc.) that are payable at the beginning of the "free" school year.

Back to School? Bring Your Own Toilet Paper (http://www.cnbc.com/id/38711521/comid/2#comments_top)


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When Emily Cooper headed off to first grade in Moody, Ala., last week, she was prepared with all the stuff on her elementary school’s must-bring list: two double rolls of paper towels, three packages of Clorox wipes, three boxes of baby wipes, two boxes of garbage bags, liquid soap, Kleenex and Ziplocs.

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“Sometimes I think it’s too much,” she said. “Is my fourth grader really going to use 50 pencils herself?”

Actually - ours might just go through that many pencils. Catapults don't you know  :laugh:.

mutti
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Post by: Winston on August 20, 2010, 02:17:28 pm
Saving money!

 A sound economic principle is to HS and therefore save the costs of picking up all those required "list" items. Our local costs (for 3 minions) would run about $610 total not counting the fees (sports fee, admin fee, lunch fee, counseling contribution, art fee,  etc.) that are payable at the beginning of the "free" school year.

Back to School? Bring Your Own Toilet Paper (http://www.cnbc.com/id/38711521/comid/2#comments_top)


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When Emily Cooper headed off to first grade in Moody, Ala., last week, she was prepared with all the stuff on her elementary school’s must-bring list: two double rolls of paper towels, three packages of Clorox wipes, three boxes of baby wipes, two boxes of garbage bags, liquid soap, Kleenex and Ziplocs.

Yeah, "must bring"...like they can kick a kid out of school for not bringing paper towels at the beggining of the year.

Schools literally do not know how to do anything other than squander their funds. It has been that way as long as I can remember anyway: Playground equipment falling apart? Time to replace all of the (perfectly good, less than a year old) chalkboards. Only a handfull of desks in the whole school that aren't falling apart? Too bad, the kintergarden hallways needs cameras.
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Post by: MamaLiberty on August 20, 2010, 03:03:58 pm
Seems so very long ago... 36 years ago when my second son went to kindergarten (the first one never did), I walked to the school with him and went in to talk to the teacher. The room was cheerful with simple things like wooden blocks in several sizes, some older push toys (not much plastic then) and lots of books, finger paints (home made), a few simple musical instruments, a record player (ancient) and other stuff to interest youngsters. I helped out several times a week, and participated in making many things from recycled materials such as cardboard. We made our own library paste - and worked hard to keep the children from eating it!!! One batch fermented (got yeasty) and broke the glass jars it was kept in!

Quite a few other mothers helped out as well and we had a grand time with the children and each other.

What a shame those days are long past.
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Post by: mutti on August 20, 2010, 04:01:00 pm
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Yeah, "must bring"...like they can kick a kid out of school for not bringing paper towels at the beggining of the year.

Actually in our County they just send a bill concerning what the cost would be and expect it to be paid. It is far cheaper to pay the "bribe tokens" to get across the troll bridge.

(unless one is on Public Aid or qualifies for "Free Lunch" - one can get the school supplies at a church fair, YMCA, etc. These places spend most of June/July asking the public to donate.)

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and worked hard to keep the children from eating it!!!

That would have been me - followed up by the yummy salt paste dough for modeling.

I was such a bad kid that the little 12" by 12" square of carpet we were issued at the beginning of the school year to sit in circle and be read to kept inching closer and closer to the doorway. Sometimes I even made it out to the playground undetected! bwwaaahhh

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Post by: MamaLiberty on August 20, 2010, 04:14:20 pm
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and worked hard to keep the children from eating it!!!

That would have been me - followed up by the yummy salt paste dough for modeling.

Oh! I had forgotten that stuff. :) Yes, the children ate quite a bit of that too if we were not careful. Tended to make upset tummies, however. Too much salt. A little cayenne pepper might have reduced the "shrinkage." LOL

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I was such a bad kid that the little 12" by 12" square of carpet we were issued at the beginning of the school year to sit in circle and be read to kept inching closer and closer to the doorway. Sometimes I even made it out to the playground undetected! bwwaaahhh

You poor dear. Sad... most of the children in this kindergarten objected to going home after half a day! The teacher was the most delightful lady, a bit under 5 feet tall and very slender. When she sat on the big, Persian type carpet to read the story, sometimes one had to look sharp to see that she wasn't one of the children! We all loved her, and it was a struggle to get some children to accept that they must go on to first grade at the end of the year. :) They wanted Miss Merriweather to be their teacher forever.

I wish I had been able to have such a wonderful experience in my childhood.
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Post by: gaurdduck on August 24, 2010, 05:33:56 pm
I remember my kindergarten teacher, Mr. Walker. Nice guy.
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Post by: mutti on August 28, 2010, 08:34:50 am
Speaking of YARTHS.....California students get tracking devices
 (http://www.mercurynews.com/news/ci_15815706?nclick_check=1)
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California officials are outfitting preschoolers in Contra Costa County with tracking devices they say will save staff time and money.

The system was introduced Tuesday. When at the school, students will wear a jersey that has a small radio frequency tag. The tag will send signals to sensors that help track children's whereabouts, attendance and even whether they've eaten or not.

It'll save time (thousands of hours!). After all - when they're in preschool is the perfect time to indoctrinate have them get used to uhm.....introduce alternative technologies.  :angry:
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Post by: Winston on September 02, 2010, 01:50:19 pm
Speaking of YARTHS.....California students get tracking devices
 (http://www.mercurynews.com/news/ci_15815706?nclick_check=1)
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California officials are outfitting preschoolers in Contra Costa County with tracking devices they say will save staff time and money.

The system was introduced Tuesday. When at the school, students will wear a jersey that has a small radio frequency tag. The tag will send signals to sensors that help track children's whereabouts, attendance and even whether they've eaten or not.

It'll save time (thousands of hours!). After all - when they're in preschool is the perfect time to indoctrinate have them get used to uhm.....introduce alternative technologies.  :angry:

Yesterday I saw a short news feature on the new thing in Illinois elementery schools, which is a GPS system for busses with RFID cards for the kids to scan when they get on and off the bus...you know, an automated bus attendance database.


I mean besides the obvious big-brotherism, It just made me remember how when I was in elementery school there was, without fail, a massive mixup at the beginning of every single school year where pretty much half the students were put on the wrong bus route. Add in GPS cards and I can only see a buereucratic screwup of epic proportions...
Plus it makes it super easy to skip school: just give your card to someone else who rides your bus and have them scan it for you.
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Post by: MamaLiberty on September 02, 2010, 02:26:29 pm
Ah, the good old days. We lived out in the desert and walked a long way to school. (NO, not uphill both ways. LOL)

When it snowed, an old man who lived at the top of the hill behind us would get out his sleigh and two fat ponies, hitch them up and pick up all the children on the street - then take us to school. We were the envy of the whole valley. There were no school buses. Our parents had all sorts of innovative ways to get the job done then. And skipping school wasn't really an option.
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Post by: mutti on December 02, 2010, 11:19:30 am
Speaking of YARTHS - Classroom Beating: Florida Student Gets Pummeled While Teacher Sits Back (http://abcnews.go.com/US/classroom-beating-florida-student-pummeled-teacher-sits-back/story?id=12279310)
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Video of the fight between Joshua Poole, 13, and his Jeaga Middle School classmate shows Poole swinging wildly as he is punched repeatedly before falling to the floor. The teacher's inaction was reportedly due to a school policy that staff can only intervene after undergoing training, according to the school district.

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"It keeps happening, you know, the same thing," he told the station. "Somebody will just come up behind him and start brutalizing him. I send my kid to school to get educated, not to get killed. It's really bad."

S-T-O-P      S-E-N-D-I-N-G    H-I-M     T-H-E-N

According to the article this was a two way fight that originated with words before it progressed to blows - why - uhm - didn't the teacher "de-escalate" the situation before hand. (I know - second guessing there).

Title: Re: If one ever needed a reason to homeschool - you might find it here.
Post by: mutti on December 13, 2010, 01:56:57 pm
Michelle Obama on Deciding What Kids Eat (http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/michelle-obama-45-billion-child-nutritio)
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Speaking at Monday's signing ceremony for the “Healthy, Hunger-Free Kids Act”--a law that will subsidize and regulate what children eat before school, at lunch, after school, and during summer vacations in federally funded school-based feeding programs--First Lady Michelle Obama said of deciding what American children should eat: “We can’t just leave it up to the parents."

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“But when our kids spend so much of their time each day in school, and when many children get up to half their daily calories from school meals, it’s clear that we as a nation have a responsibility to meet as well,” Mrs. Obama said. “We can’t just leave it up to the parents.  I think that parents have a right to expect that their efforts at home won’t be undone each day in the school cafeteria or in the vending machine in the hallway.  I think that our parents have a right to expect that their kids will be served fresh, healthy food that meets high nutritional standards.”

I've got a solution - don't send your kids to PS. Feed their minds and bodies at home.
 
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Obama said that if the bill had not reached his desk for his signature, “I would be sleeping on the couch.”

Okay. So if one wants "to get a little" in the White House, one must follow the edicts of ones unelected spouse on public policy or find a couch?

When does he get his cajones back?

mutti
(OT:  In my mind there is nothing worse than having two parents who each dedicate 50% to a relationship. If for any reason you stumble or fall there is less than 100% in that relationship. Why not give all that you can as long as you can? )
Title: Re: If one ever needed a reason to homeschool - you might find it here.
Post by: Winston on December 14, 2010, 07:42:54 pm
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Obama said that if the bill had not reached his desk for his signature, “I would be sleeping on the couch.”

Okay. So if one wants "to get a little" in the White House, one must follow the edicts of ones unelected spouse on public policy or find a couch?

When does he get his cajones back?

LOL remember earlier in his campaign when they'd show them out at resturants and such, with Michelle literally dragging him by the arm like a convict? Things apparently haven't changed. I'm not gonna bash marraige or anything but I personally find it pathetic that the most powerful figurehead in the country is worried about having to sleep on the couch. What a freakin embarrasment.
Title: Re: If one ever needed a reason to homeschool - you might find it here.
Post by: mutti on December 29, 2010, 01:10:36 pm
Another reason not to purchase matching lunch boxes: N.C. : Lunchbox mix-up leads to charges for Sanford teen (http://www.wral.com/news/local/story/8845676/)

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An athletic and academic standout in Lee County said a lunchbox mix-up has cut short her senior year of high school and might hurt her college opportunities.

Ashley Smithwick, 17, of Sanford, was suspended from Southern Lee High School in October after school personnel found a small paring knife in her lunchbox.

Smithwick said personnel found the knife while searching the belongings of several students, possibly looking for drugs.

“She got pulled into it. She doesn’t have to be a bad person to be searched,” Smithwick’s father, Joe Smithwick, said.

The lunchbox really belonged to Joe Smithwick, who packs a paring knife to slice his apple. He and his daughter have matching lunchboxes.

“It’s just an honest mistake. That was supposed to be my lunch because it was a whole apple,” he said.

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This month, Ashley Smithwick, a soccer player who takes college-level courses, was charged with misdemeanor possession of a weapon on school grounds. She is no longer allowed to set foot on campus.

More mindless Administrators.

YARTHS
Title: Re: If one ever needed a reason to homeschool - you might find it here.
Post by: Rarick on December 30, 2010, 06:12:54 am
........Just.........<Throws up hands and walks away>     too stupid!
Title: Re: If one ever needed a reason to homeschool - you might find it here.
Post by: mutti on December 30, 2010, 10:36:33 am
........Just.........<Throws up hands and walks away>     too stupid!

Here's a funny little question to consider. How many parents would it take to ignore this "zero tolerance" and send fingernail clippers to school before the situation could be changed?

Part of my brain thinks if just 1% refused to comply the schools would reshape the policy in order to not lose the daily funding.

Every time I see one of these insane stories I write a "letter to the editor" of the local paper encouraging individuals to look at what the situation is really about. Control of: peanut butter, paring knives, candy canes that can be sharpened to be a dangerous weapon, etc. is not the ultimate purpose. It is absolute obedience that is being taught in our Public Schools.

I guess this is another of my tilting at windmill points.
(maybe I should attach some Kwh generators to those windmills and save a few FRNs  ^_^)
Title: Re: If one ever needed a reason to homeschool - you might find it here.
Post by: mutti on June 16, 2011, 09:23:02 am
School Surveys 7th-Graders on Oral Sex (http://www.foxnews.com/us/2011/06/15/school-surveys-7th-graders-on-oral-sex/?test=latestnews)

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A middle school in Massachusetts is under fire for requiring children to complete a graphic sex survey -- without parental knowledge or consent -- that included questions about sexual partners and oral sex.

The school has no responsibility because they were "just following orders" (in order to complete a Grant requirement).

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Principal Fran Thomas told Fox News Radio that students were indeed given the survey – and admits it was graphic. But Thomas said the school has nothing to do with the content and they were required to administer the survey to fulfill a grant requirement.

“I can take no responsibility for what’s on that survey,” Thomas said. “It’s not generated by the school system.”

Thomas said the survey was funded by a federal grant and administered by LUK Inc., a local social services agency -- in coordination with the Centers for Disease Control.

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“It was not optional,” he said. “It’s part of a grant that they applied for and the district said you have to administer this survey.”

There is the mention that a "passive consent form" was sent, but never received by the parent.

Interesting what a few decades can do. I remember being 12 and don't believe this was a subject we covered. Of course soon I get to be a "Grumpy Old Crazy Goat Lady" and complain about everything - hey - wait........................


Title: Re: If one ever needed a reason to homeschool - you might find it here.
Post by: knobster on June 16, 2011, 10:19:03 am
Wow...

My wife and I have decided on a curriculum and are excited (and scared) to start down this journey!

Thank God we are getting out of the public school system.
Title: Re: If one ever needed a reason to homeschool - you might find it here.
Post by: knobster on July 06, 2011, 05:29:56 am
My wife and I are now fully committed to homeschool our three children.  We are in the process of getting the dining area transformed into a learning center.  We have been fortunate that all of her friends are very supportive of the decision.  Her father (big-time liberal who taught in public school for years) is a little less excited.  He supports our decision but will ask somewhat inane questions.  Like how she will deal with a child who misbehaves in class.  She had to explain to him that she is teaching our children, not everyone in the neighborhood...  I'm still not sure if he completely understands what we're doing.
Title: Re: If one ever needed a reason to homeschool - you might find it here.
Post by: mutti on July 06, 2011, 07:41:31 am
Yeah - Parents - whatcha' gonna do with them  ^_^.

Most inane statement from our family was years ago "They need to be socialized to learn to operate in the real world". My response in '02 was "If I want them to receive the real world training that I received in L.A. public schools,  I'd install a police guard at the bathroom door, wand them as they came in the front/back door and periodically ban them from thinking." I got the blank look and then "Did you really have police on your campus?" Shows you how involved they were.

You'll do great! There are as many ways to Homeschool as there are homeschoolers! The great thing? As the educator, you can react quickly to any issues that show additional need or extraordinary skills. Most families do come around when your minions cannot help but burst out what they are learning - after all they are the "perfect grand-children!"

Can you involve him? As an educator and person with lots of real life experience (think hobby), what can he do to contribute? Make him feel part of the situation and maybe it will be a smoother transition?

Title: Re: If one ever needed a reason to homeschool - you might find it here.
Post by: knobster on July 06, 2011, 10:12:16 am
Can you involve him? As an educator and person with lots of real life experience (think hobby), what can he do to contribute? Make him feel part of the situation and maybe it will be a smoother transition?

Hmm...  now there is a possibility.  I'll have to discuss this with my DW.  Thanks!
Title: Re: If one ever needed a reason to homeschool - you might find it here.
Post by: Moonbeam on July 06, 2011, 11:05:16 am
Knobster - That's great news! And I'm glad you've received mostly support from others. Good luck!

On a side note, when people mention the whole "socializing" thing, I reply with: "Really?! You mean you waited until your kids were five so you could have their teacher show them proper manners?" They reply with, "No." So then I tell them, "Right, that's because it's up to parents to show their kids how to socialize, not school."
Title: Re: If one ever needed a reason to homeschool - you might find it here.
Post by: Klapton Isgod on July 06, 2011, 11:42:31 am
Church, sunday school, youth group, scouts, little league, 4H...

They are just jealous because homeschoolers do not have to pick their kids up at school and run them through a drive-through for dinner in order to rush them to these activities.  The homeschoolers get to have wholesome, home-cooked meals (that the kids get to learn how to cook too!) and eat and relax as a family before going to AS MANY of those activities that involved SOCIAL INTERACTION with others as they want.

I guess they think that because schools are actually prisons, and children are required to stay there every day, that home-school is also a prison, and you have to stay home every day.
Title: Re: If one ever needed a reason to homeschool - you might find it here.
Post by: mutti on July 06, 2011, 12:40:28 pm
Klapton - That is an important part of the discussion we have with people.

When our minions go to events, 4H, dinner - even shopping at the rural king or an auction - it is an "Event".  With something to look forward to and the planning that must go along with that (they are responsible for making the calender clear as to their events), the "running" that so many people feel forced to do is avoided.  (We of course do have spontaneous days as well)

To be truthful, I'm thankful that for right now they are satisfied to blend "out of home events" with "in home events".

I cringe when I ask friends "So - how is Jane" and find out they don't know. On the bus at 6:40 am, after school mandatory whatever (Social Awareness Volunteering drives me nuts!) on alternate days combined with a 4:40 pm arrival home to scoot on to some other required practice until it is time to eat, do school work, catch up chores and sleep. A few years ago when I asked this question the mom answered, "I don't know. Since she got her drivers license, I don't see her unless she needs something."  Seriously - she didn't see her own 16 year old daughter 6 out of 7 days. At that's the "norm".

I'd miss my kids.....most days  ^_^
Title: Re: If one ever needed a reason to homeschool - you might find it here.
Post by: Bear on July 06, 2011, 01:22:57 pm
Wow...

My wife and I have decided on a curriculum and are excited (and scared) to start down this journey!

Thank God we are getting out of the public school system.

When my wife and I first thought about home schooling our daughter, it was a daunting idea.
But we reminded ourselves that we were getting her out of a dangerous environment, and we
could not do a worse job than the public school was doing.

She went back into the public school system at High School and did well. Her only adjustment
was to learn to work within arbitrary time limits, and to learn to accept that some people are
satisfied with less than perfect work as long as it's turned in on time. Eventually she went on
and got her Masters. I guess home schooling "didn't hurt her none". :o

You'll do fine. The most important part is that you care, and talk with your kids.

Bear
Title: Re: If one ever needed a reason to homeschool - you might find it here.(Chicago)
Post by: mutti on July 25, 2011, 08:18:19 am
Cameras linked directly to police stations planned for some Illinois schools (http://www.bnd.com/2011/07/25/1798562/cameras-planned-for-14-more-chicago.html#ixzz1T7f6TPeV)

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Security cameras linked directly to police stations may be coming to 14 troubled Chicago high schools in a bid to create a safer atmosphere.

If I were a parent who had to send children here, I'd fight this tooth and nail. As one commenter stated, why not just station Military in each school? How long until the "home life" of said misbehaving students is identified and we have cameras in each home. Nip it in the bud as it were..............................

YARTHS

Title: Re: If one ever needed a reason to homeschool - you might find it here.(Chicago)
Post by: DiabloLoco on July 25, 2011, 08:23:41 am
Cameras linked directly to police stations planned for some Illinois schools (http://www.bnd.com/2011/07/25/1798562/cameras-planned-for-14-more-chicago.html#ixzz1T7f6TPeV)

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Security cameras linked directly to police stations may be coming to 14 troubled Chicago high schools in a bid to create a safer atmosphere.

If I were a parent who had to send children here, I'd fight this tooth and nail. As one commenter stated, why not just station Military in each school? How long until the "home life" of said misbehaving students is identified and we have cameras in each home. Nip it in the bud as it were..............................

YARTHS


Many schools already have metal detectors and pat-downs. Also illegal locker searches. I guess the way they figure it, if those infringments on liberties went unchallenged, why would police linked cameras?
Title: Re: If one ever needed a reason to homeschool - you might find it here.
Post by: Bear on July 25, 2011, 09:22:01 am
If it's necessary to have cameras in your child's school 'to keep them safe', then it
is time to get them out NOW.

Bear
Title: Re: If one ever needed a reason to homeschool - you might find it here.
Post by: mutti on July 25, 2011, 09:37:11 am
If it's necessary to have cameras in your child's school 'to keep them safe', then it
is time to get them out NOW.
Bear

I never would have thought of it that way - great argument for the common masses.
Title: Re: If one ever needed a reason to homeschool - you might find it here.
Post by: Rarick on July 26, 2011, 06:21:06 am
Actually the kids would be out of school the moment the metal detectors went in.  The outlawing of Buck knife and leatherman tools is downright unamerican............
Title: Re: If one ever needed a reason to homeschool - you might find it here.
Post by: mutti on September 02, 2011, 08:21:22 am
(I found myself screaming "YARTHS" about 30 seconds ago)  Yes - This might not be true, however it surely might be in this day and age.



Lawsuit accuses security guard of handcuffing first-graders for talking in class (http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/education/ct-met-first-grader-handcuffed-0831-20110831,0,3999803.story)

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The attorney for a family suing Chicago Public Schools over the alleged handcuffing of a first-grader in 2010 said Tuesday that the boy was among several 6- and 7-year-olds who were detained and handcuffed for hours for talking in class.

In an email to the Tribune, attorney Michael Carin said school officials at Carver Primary School on the Far South Side authorized the on-campus security guard in March 2010 to discipline some first-graders who were being disruptive.

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Giving details not disclosed in the lawsuit filed Monday in Cook County Circuit Court, Carin said the school's security officer removed the students from class and held them in another office on campus where there were no other adults present. Carin said the students were handcuffed for hours and told that "they were going to prison and would never see their parents again."

"There appears to be no reason for an officer to isolate 6- and 7-year-old children, place them in handcuffs and threaten them for hours during a school day, or any other day," Carin wrote.

What - what? Appears to be no reason? Why not just slap the duct tape over their mouths? Never see their parents? Excuse me for just a moment (ahgoetirhaweiot aeirvthj a;veoit9uvanj[e 9rivtj ;eawritjba;eo9biutw9eoibnta'weoritb'EP0ORIBNWE0Oirbtn 9EIRTN [9E)

And what about this insane comment:
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These security guards may have saved their lives by scaring them straight.  The handcuffs did no harm. The parents should be sued for raising little monsters

Why comments on Race when this should be about the blatant Terrorism by the blanking Security Officer?
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What were their names ? Shameika, Jamal, and Katmamal ?
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these cute little kids would shoot you without thinking twice. they need to be handcuffed more often.

Rant On/

I honestly don't understand the hate wars, religious wars, race wars, monetary wars, socio-economic wars, military hate (I was shocked to see Active Duty Military calling for O/Government dismantling on a Military Board yesterday) - why? why? why?

Am I so "out of the mainstream" that I can't see this around me where we live everyday?

Or is it just that I'll say "Listen. I understand what you are saying, but I cannot condone those types of hateful comments." or "I don't believe in Gossiping about others. Why don't we talk about something else?"

Is it the ability to hide behind a keyboard and spout without having to face someone?

/Rant Off

I am so incredibly thankful that we Homeschool. There are times when it is hard to swing a bill, minions drive me nuts and I wonder "What are we doing?" Then I imagine the violence against children each day (physical or otherwise) and I feel like crying for the children who have to deal with that daily.

 

Title: Re: If one ever needed a reason to homeschool - you might find it here.
Post by: knobster on September 02, 2011, 10:17:59 am
Good grief?  Handcuffed?  For talking in class?  I'm sending this on to my SHW so she'll be reminded of yet another reason why we are homeschooling.
Title: Re: If one ever needed a reason to homeschool - you might find it here.
Post by: mutti on September 26, 2011, 04:06:15 pm
Britain YARTHS : Dress witches in pink and avoid white paper to prevent racism in nuseries, expert says  (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/education/educationnews/8786641/Dress-witches-in-pink-and-avoid-white-paper-to-prevent-racism-in-nuseries-expert-says.html)

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From the Wicked Witch of the West in the Wizard of Oz to Meg, the good witch from the Meg and Mog children's books, witches have always dressed in black.

But their traditional attire has now come in for criticism from equality experts who claim it could send a negative message to toddlers in nursery and lead to racism.

Instead, teachers should censor the toy box and replace the pointy black hat with a pink one, while dressing fairies, generally resplendent in pale pastels, in darker shades.

Another staple of the classroom - white paper - has also been questioned by Anne O'Connor, an early years consultant who advises local authorities on equality and diversity.
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"This is an incredibly complex subject that can easily become simplified and inaccurately portrayed," she said.

"There is a tendency in education to say 'here are normal people and here are different people and we have to be kind to those different people', whether it's race, gender, ethnicity, sexual orientation, age or faith.

"People who are feeling defensive can say 'well there's nothing wrong with white paper', but in reality there could be if you don't see yourself reflected in the things around you. “As an early years teacher, the minute you start thinking, 'well actually, if I give everyone green paper, what happens’, you have a teaching potential.

“People might criticise this as political correctness gone mad. But it is because of political correctness we have moved on enormously. If you think that we now take it for granted that our buildings and public highways are adapted so people in wheelchairs and with pushchairs can move around. Years ago if you were in a wheelchair, then tough luck. We have completely moved and we wouldn’t have done that without the equality movement.”

Oh my. My suggestion would have been carbon papers since it seems education is bent on producing little "carbon copies".
Title: Re: If one ever needed a reason to homeschool - you might find it here.
Post by: gaurdduck on September 26, 2011, 04:57:07 pm
Britain YARTHS : Dress witches in pink and avoid white paper to prevent racism in nuseries, expert says  (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/education/educationnews/8786641/Dress-witches-in-pink-and-avoid-white-paper-to-prevent-racism-in-nuseries-expert-says.html)

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From the Wicked Witch of the West in the Wizard of Oz to Meg, the good witch from the Meg and Mog children's books, witches have always dressed in black.

But their traditional attire has now come in for criticism from equality experts who claim it could send a negative message to toddlers in nursery and lead to racism.

Instead, teachers should censor the toy box and replace the pointy black hat with a pink one, while dressing fairies, generally resplendent in pale pastels, in darker shades.

Another staple of the classroom - white paper - has also been questioned by Anne O'Connor, an early years consultant who advises local authorities on equality and diversity.
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"This is an incredibly complex subject that can easily become simplified and inaccurately portrayed," she said.

"There is a tendency in education to say 'here are normal people and here are different people and we have to be kind to those different people', whether it's race, gender, ethnicity, sexual orientation, age or faith.

"People who are feeling defensive can say 'well there's nothing wrong with white paper', but in reality there could be if you don't see yourself reflected in the things around you. “As an early years teacher, the minute you start thinking, 'well actually, if I give everyone green paper, what happens’, you have a teaching potential.

“People might criticise this as political correctness gone mad. But it is because of political correctness we have moved on enormously. If you think that we now take it for granted that our buildings and public highways are adapted so people in wheelchairs and with pushchairs can move around. Years ago if you were in a wheelchair, then tough luck. We have completely moved and we wouldn’t have done that without the equality movement.”

Oh my. My suggestion would have been carbon papers since it seems education is bent on producing little "carbon copies".

Sorry, I just don't think Marisa would look right in pink...

(http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20101229213258/touhou/images/thumb/2/28/Marisa-FW.png/405px-Marisa-FW.png)
Title: Re: If one ever needed a reason to homeschool - you might find it here.
Post by: mutti on November 10, 2011, 09:01:55 am
When "loitering" leads to attack by school resource officer. Comments "he got what he deserved" make me sick. Just waiting for the "the family just wants to sue" comments - give it time.

Family searches for answers in teen's altercation (http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/crime-and-courts/family-searches-for-answers-in-teen-s-altercation/article_2c3168ef-db67-541a-beb9-1d8bb880a30d.html?mode=story)
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The mother of a Normandy High School student critically injured in an altercation with a school resource officer said she wants to know what really happened.

Evelyn Woods said her son, Damontae, 18, suffered a heart rupture after a school resource officer chased him down for loitering in the hallway and being late to class the morning of Oct. 21.

Damontae Woods is in critical condition at St. Louis Children's Hospital, a hospital spokeswoman said.

"All we know is he was in an altercation," Evelyn Woods said Wednesday by phone. "We've tried to get in touch with school officials, but nobody's shown up."

and later:

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Wellston Police Chief G.T. Walker said police were called to the school for a report of a 'sick case" about 9:30 that morning. Responding officers were told a student was having difficulty breathing.

Walker said police did not begin an investigation into the incident until last week, when a television news reporter told him of the severity of Damontae's injuries and the family's allegations. Investigators are planning to meet with the teen's relatives next week to obtain medical records and details of the incident.

Evelyn Woods said her son was in good health until last month's incident and that no pre-existing conditions existed with the 5-foot-1, 120-pound teen that could have contributed to his injuries.

Having a knee in your back or on your chest by the "resource officer" might tend to create breathing issues. Why they just didn't Tazer the little miscreant is beyond me (sarc). Good thing they have all those cameras recording -

YARTHS
Title: Re: If one ever needed a reason to homeschool - you might find it here.
Post by: mutti on November 18, 2011, 07:31:28 am
Cleveland, Ohio.

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A couple raising a 14-year-old developmentally disabled student say they hid a recording device on the girl to prove a teacher and school aide were bullying her, and the audio and subsequent investigations have led to a lawsuit, the aide’s resignation and disciplinary action for the teacher.
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The girl’s mother, Kourtney Barcus, and her boyfriend, who helps raise the girl, said in the lawsuit that their concerns about the aide spanned several years before they recorded the audio and that school officials initially rejected their claims. But they were shocked by what they heard on the hours of tape.

The disciplinary action will be suspended if the teacher involved completes an 8 hour class and stays in "good standing" with the district.

I wonder why the couple involved left this child over a several year period in the school?

Sad.
Title: Re: If one ever needed a reason to homeschool - you might find it here.
Post by: Lowkey on November 18, 2011, 10:48:59 am
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On the bright side; A would be teen mother got an abortion....

Believe it or not, the abortion is not the key issue here. The issue is the apparent  blatant superseding of parental rights.

We can "what if" this to death with all of the possibilities that could have been discussed among the Family, however that option was removed by the State.

That is the issue.

I get it, hence the "on the bright side" comment...

While I don't disagree with abortion, even abortion without a parents approval, I don't think the public school system should have any say whatsoever in such matters.




According to the article, it didn't/

"At any age in the state of Washington, an individual can consent to a termination of pregnancy," he <T.J. Cosgrove>said.

The young lady in question would have been free to pursue an abortion on her own without any assistance from the state if she so chose.
For those with a pro-life view I can understand bitching about the use of state funds for an abortion.
In fact, I can see anyone bitching about use of state funds for health care.
What I'm not seeing are any logical grounds for claiming the state usurped parental rights in this case. 
It's not as if the young lady needed a permission slip signed by her parents for this procedure which the state signed in their place.
She tested pregnant, the clinic staff told her what medical options were available to her under the health plan available to her, and the young lady made her choice. 

As a side note, I have to wonder about the veracity of the mothers statement that her daughter was/is a pro-life advocate.  If that was the case, why/how could she choose abortion. 
I'm more inclined to believe that her parents are pro-life advocates and that the daughter goes along with them to avoid issues at home.

Title: Re: If one ever needed a reason to homeschool - you might find it here.
Post by: mutti on December 23, 2011, 10:03:48 am
School Accused of Putting Autistic Boy in Duffel Bag

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2011/12/22/school-accused-putting-autistic-boy-in-duffel-bag/?test=latestnews#ixzz1hNGJHESl
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A 9-year-old autistic boy who misbehaved at school was stuffed into a duffel bag and the drawstring pulled tight, according to his mother, who said she found him wiggling inside as a teacher's aide stood by.
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Mercer County schools Interim Superintendent Dennis Davis said confidentiality laws forbid him from commenting.

"The employees of the Mercer County Public Schools are qualified professionals who treat students with respect and dignity while providing a safe and nurturing learning environment," Davis said in a statement.

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Baker said when school officials called the family to pick him up, they were told he was "jumping off the walls." Days later, at a meeting with school officials, Baker said she was told the boy had smirked at the teacher when he was told to put down a basketball, then threw it across the room.

At a meeting with school district officials, the bag was described as a "therapy bag," Baker said, though she wasn't clear exactly what that meant. She said her son would sometimes be asked to roll over a bag filled with balls as a form of therapy, but she didn't know her son was being placed in the bag. She said school officials told her it was not the first time they had put him in the bag.




Title: Re: If one ever needed a reason to homeschool - you might find it here.
Post by: mutti on January 05, 2012, 01:14:39 pm
Parkway's use of fitness monitors raises privacy questions  (St. Louis, MO):

http://www.stltoday.com/suburban-journals/metro/education/parkway-s-use-of-fitness-monitors-raises-privacy-questions/article_af46b549-0f1e-5a41-8a26-7f77c91ced20.html#ixzz1ic2ERxMM

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When is the line crossed between better health and surveillance?

In early 2012, wristwatch-like devices called Polar active monitors will be used by older students in PE classes at all 18 Parkway elementary schools. District officials say the devices should help improve the students' fitness and academic achievement.

Later this school year, the district plans to collect data about activity levels and even sleep patterns for a week at a time. It will have the students wear the devices round the clock.

Some parents and legal experts are raising privacy concerns about at least that aspect of the program.

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Ramspott said Parkway will require parental consent to participate largely because of the responsibility of caring for the monitors.

"We haven't had any parents refuse to participate at this point as we have only used them in PE classes," Ramspott said.

But some parents and others insist they have concerns.

Beth Huebner, PTO co-president at Ross and mother of sons in first and fourth grades, said she wasn't aware of her older child wearing one of the devices and she was never asked for consent.

"I'd want to see data generated to help me understand calories burned and sleep patterns," said Huebner, a professor at the University of Missouri-St. Louis. "I would ask the district tell me about it particularly if the information would be used for district analysis."

What happened to Reading, Writing and Mathematics? I know - anywho - just an FYI for those who are dealing with "funny watches" @ their Child's school.

(wanders away mumbling.....where is my tinfoil hat....)
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Post by: RagnarDanneskjold on January 26, 2012, 08:08:52 am
Parkway's use of fitness monitors raises privacy questions  (St. Louis, MO):
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That's funny (in a sardonic sort of way). Fitness monitoring by a group whose collective "wisdom" has so far caused a huge leap in obesity, diabetes, Alzheimer's (which wasn't even in the lexicon until 1979), cardiomyopathies and early death. Why would anyone let them dictate health and fitness? (of course, why does anyone let them mold their children's minds in the first place).
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Post by: mutti on January 26, 2012, 09:01:56 am
That's funny (in a sardonic sort of way). Fitness monitoring by a group whose collective "wisdom" has so far caused a huge leap in obesity, diabetes, Alzheimer's (which wasn't even in the lexicon until 1979), cardiomyopathies and early death. Why would anyone let them dictate health and fitness? (of course, why does anyone let them mold their children's minds in the first place).

Good news (no - not mass exodus from the School System) : Parkway School District shelves fitness monitors :  http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/education/parkway-school-district-shelves-fitness-monitors/article_4e22dd80-6fff-5d97-8d86-1ea1ecfae99d.html

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Parkway School District is taking away activity monitors given to elementary pupils for physical education classes due to a national controversy over privacy issues.

The 75 Polar Active devices, which are worn on the wrist and cost $90 each, were distributed last year to third-, fourth- and fifth-grade pupils at Henry, Ross and Shenandoah Valley elementary schools. The pupils were using them to measure the quality and duration of their exertion during PE classes then comparing those measurements to the U.S. Surgeon General's recommendations for activity.

...but NY likes the concept so much - Polar Activity Monitors are going National!

Schools ‘spy’ on fat kids 
:  http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/schools_spy_on_fat_kids_HpPAgsKXPYjt1EWFfaNp9K

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A group of Long Island students will soon be wearing controversial electronic monitors that allow school officials to track their physical activity around the clock.

The athletics chair for the Bay Shore schools ordered 10 Polar Active monitors, at $90 a pop, for use starting this spring. The wristwatchlike devices count heartbeats, detect motion and even track students’ sleeping habits in a bid to combat obesity.

The information is displayed on a color-coded screen and gets transmitted to a password-protected Web site that students and educators can access.

and New Jersey as well. Sigh.

Well at least cheating on SAT and ACT's will be taken care of :  ‘Digital DNA’ May Soon Be Required To Take SAT And ACT Exams  :  http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2012/01/23/exclusive-digital-dna-may-soon-be-required-to-take-sat-and-act-exams/
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Since the SAT and ACT cheating scandals broke wide open on Long Island, lawmakers have pledged to come up with unique cutting edge ways to combat identity theft.

On Monday, CBS 2’s Jennifer McLogan got the exclusive first look at what politicians will see first hand in Albany on Tuesday afternoon, and what could soon be implemented at a high school near you.

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“It’s a great way for people to really be who they are when they take the test, and not try to fake it,” Massapequa High School graduate Jennifer Karp told McLogan.

Karp volunteered her forensic image for a digital DNA. It begins with mandatory pre-registering at a student’s home school with official legal ID documents only.

Combine that with "Fingerprints for Lunch" : Fingerprints for Food? Lunch Scans Raise Concern  :  https://www.cbn.com/cbnnews/healthscience/2010/October/Fingerprints-for-Food-High-Tech-School-Lunch-Raises-Concern/

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A Los Angeles school district has gone high tech to speed things up in the cafeteria -- using a fingerprint scanning system to record children's lunch purchases.

But the move has some worried about students' right to privacy.

Students at the Foshay Learning Center are the first in the school district to try the scanners. With the touch of a finger, they can buy sloppy joes, a slice of pizza, or a carton of milk.

"It's very safe," principal Yvonne Edwards said. "The children don't have to bring money to school."

Palm Prints for Pizza down in Florida : Palm Scans: School Cafeterias Go High Tech :  http://palmharbor.patch.com/articles/palm-scans-school-cafeterias-go-high-tech

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The lunch line moves faster with the new technology.

“We examined several biometric systems during our review process and it was evident during our pilot phase that the Fujitsu PalmSecure solution, paired with (software), best met our qualifying criteria,” according to Pinellas Food Service Department Director Art Dunham on the Fujitsu website.

The new palm scan system is optional. Paying with cash and looking up a student’s name can still be done.

Fingerprints for riding the School Bus : http://jalopnik.com/5677713/school-buses-testing-fingerprint-scanners

Digital ID Cards for your precious little ones to actually prove they are who they say they are : http://blog.hhcolorlab.com/school-photography/school-photographers-id-cards-will-be-happening-soon

...and "we" wonder why walking through the TSA line(s) has become commonly accepted.
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Post by: PJ on January 29, 2012, 07:45:54 am
...and "we" wonder why walking through the TSA line(s) has become commonly accepted.
I graduated from public school more than 30 years ago.  At that time they were talking about implementing locker searches; drug-sniffing dogs and drug testing was on the horizon, and they were ready to ban leaving school property for lunch.  I was very glad that I was graduating when I did, as I recognized that schools were becoming minimum security prisons.  The people who have been imprisoned in this environment know nothing different; they have been conditioned to comply and most will continue to do so.  Thus, the TSA grope line is nothing out of the ordinary for the average public school product; they have been trained to accept it as normal.  Some of course, rebel, they once were labeled as troublemakers; I suppose now days the word terrorist would be applied.
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Post by: mutti on January 30, 2012, 05:10:52 pm
Flip-flop on the Monitors. Now they'll just slooowwwwllllyyy integrate them.

Parkway going ahead with Polar monitor project :  http://www.stltoday.com/suburban-journals/metro/education/parkway-going-ahead-with-polar-monitor-project/article_9dcfea10-5871-51ff-97a4-590b944983f4.html

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Parkway School District administrators have changed course and now plan to go ahead with district-wide implementation of a Polar active monitor program this spring.

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First, they'll just be used in PE, then at some point down the road, kids will wear them all during the school day to determine their activity levels," Kelly said. "A couple years down the road, we wanted to send the devices home with the kids, and, at that time, we had originally planned on communication with parents because the kids would be taking the devices home."


...camels nose.
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Post by: mutti on February 14, 2012, 08:00:25 pm
Must be some money raising scheme. Here are two PS articles about school lunches - and those who must be obeyed.

State Inspectors Searching Children’s Lunch Boxes: “This Isn’t China, Is It?”  :  http://www.nccivitas.org/2012/state-inspectors-searching-childrens-lunch-boxes-this-isnt-china-is-it/ (http://www.nccivitas.org/2012/state-inspectors-searching-childrens-lunch-boxes-this-isnt-china-is-it/)
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The mother, who doesn’t wish to be identified at this time, says she made her daughter a lunch that contained a turkey and cheese sandwich, a banana, apple juice and potato chips. A state inspector assessing the pre-K program at the school said the girl also needed a vegetable, so the inspector ordered a full school lunch tray for her. While the four-year-old was still allowed to eat her home lunch, the girl was forced to take a helping of chicken nuggets, milk, a fruit and a vegetable to supplement her sack lunch.

The mother says the girl was so intimidated by the inspection process that she was too scared to eat all of her homemade lunch. The girl ate only the chicken nuggets provided to her by the school, so she still didn’t eat a vegetable.

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The mother added, “It’s just a headache to keep arguing and fighting. I’ve even wrote a note to her teachers and said do not give my daughter anything else unless it comes out of her lunchbox and they are still going against me and putting a milk in front of her every day.

“Friday she came home and said ‘Mom, they give me vegetable soup and a milk,’” said the mother.

“So I went to the cafeteria to make sure she had no fee and it’s not being charged to her account yet,” she continued, ” but what concerned me was that I got a letter from the principal and it says students who do not bring a healthy lunch will be offered the missing portions which may result in a fee from the cafeteria. So if I don’t stay on top of her account on a weekly basis there’s that opportunity that charges could be put on her account and then if I let it go too far then it’s like I’m going to have a big battle.”

and that's NC. Now in Washington:

Students Racking Up Cafeteria Debt :  http://www.kuow.org/program.php?id=25943
 (http://www.kuow.org/program.php?id=25943)

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Like a lot of parents, Phoenix Smith tries to keep his six–year–old son from eating too much sugar.

Phoenix Smith: "We use that as sort of an incentive or a reward, having a, for example, a chocolate milk."

When Smith's first grader has earned a treat, he gets 50 cents to take to school for a chocolate milk to drink with his sack lunch. So Smith was puzzled when he started getting these robocalls: Robocall: "Your student has [unintelligible] a balance of negative $2 .75. Please send payment with your student to clear this debt."

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That's Wendy Weyer, nutrition director for Seattle Public Schools. She says the district went to this electronic cafeteria system six years ago. The accounts are supposed to be used as debit accounts that parents put money into, but kids can charge food whether or not there's money in their accounts.

The district has an official credit limit of $10 per student, Weyer says, but it's not usually enforced.
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Smith says to pay for things like chocolate milk, kids just write their PIN on a clipboard that anyone can see. That could make stealing another kid's lunch money almost a cybercrime. The district admits that kids have made fraudulent charges using other students' PINs.

I guess the goal is to enforce laws that have no meaning to earn money for your school, while teaching children how to appropriately budget their money when they get to the "real world" -



 The accounts are supposed to be used as debit accounts that parents put money into, but kids can charge food whether or not there's money in their accounts.
 The accounts are supposed to be used as debit accounts that parents put money into, but kids can charge food whether or not there's money in their accounts.
 The accounts are supposed to be used as debit accounts that parents put money into, but kids can charge food whether or not there's money in their accounts.
 The accounts are supposed to be used as debit accounts that parents put money into, but kids can charge food whether or not there's money in their accounts.


...and someone else will have to pay.
Title: Re: If one ever needed a reason to homeschool - you might find it here.
Post by: knobster on February 15, 2012, 05:29:12 am
I discussed this article with one of my far-right conservative friends.  He is slowly coming around that all of life's problems won't be solved if someone with an 'R' before their name gets into the white house.
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Post by: mutti on February 15, 2012, 07:58:55 am
I discussed this article with one of my far-right conservative friends.  He is slowly coming around that all of life's problems won't be solved if someone with an 'R' before their name gets into the white house.

That so bears repeating.
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Post by: MamaLiberty on February 17, 2012, 12:08:54 pm
No pressure here, of course...  Get those kids OUT of those indoctrination camps. sigh

TX: Pro Obama chant taught to kindergarteners
February 16, 2012
The Blaze   

"Kindergarteners at a Texas elementary school were sent home with lyrics to a pro-President Barack Obama song that included such lines as 'Barack Obama is the man' and 'He’s our man, yes we can!' ... Included with the lyrics was an apparent memo to kindergarten teachers that said kindergarteners would be 'required' to learn the chant for the program." (02/10/12)
http://bit.ly/xjcs05
Title: Re: If one ever needed a reason to homeschool - you might find it here.
Post by: mutti on February 17, 2012, 12:42:05 pm
We've got a ditty the kids learn here as well:

"Bolts back, mags out, flags in, safteys on, ground your rifle, step back. "

So far - no printouts are needed  :rolleyes:.
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Post by: gaurdduck on February 22, 2012, 01:36:22 pm
We've got a ditty the kids learn here as well:

"Bolts back, mags out, flags in, safteys on, ground your rifle, step back. "

So far - no printouts are needed  :rolleyes:.

Mutti must be such an awesome parent... When I have my own kids, I know where to go for advice...
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Post by: EwB on February 22, 2012, 04:17:42 pm
This Friday the 7th of my ten come out of public school and into home school.  It is taking us some time to work the logistics of home schooling all 10 kids, but we are almost there.  I will have two left in high school and one in middle.  The plans are to have them all out by this coming fall.  Hopefully by then, our house will have sold and we can have the most of the new house done.  The new house includes a training room/classroom.  One can dream.

EwB
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Post by: mutti on February 22, 2012, 09:03:00 pm
Yuki - I appreciate the idea, but I know 4 minions who would disagree with you  :rolleyes:
Parenting is sort of like driving a car very, very fast - focus and dedication!
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Post by: EwB on February 22, 2012, 09:21:53 pm
Yuki - I appreciate the idea, but I know 4 minions who would disagree with you  :rolleyes:
Parenting is sort of like driving a car very, very fast - focus and dedication!
yep,  driving while arguing philosophy, performing minor surgery, cooking for a small army, and juggling Goslings. 

Blink and something's going to get dropped, popped, or stopped. ^_^

EwB
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Post by: mutti on February 22, 2012, 09:35:25 pm
Yuki - I appreciate the idea, but I know 4 minions who would disagree with you  :rolleyes:
Parenting is sort of like driving a car very, very fast - focus and dedication!
yep,  driving while arguing philosophy, performing minor surgery, cooking for a small army, and juggling Goslings. 

Blink and something's going to get dropped, popped, or stopped. ^_^

EwB

LOL - and I only have a few to contend with  ^_^

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Post by: knobster on February 23, 2012, 05:47:17 am
Yuki - I appreciate the idea, but I know 4 minions who would disagree with you  :rolleyes:
Parenting is sort of like driving a car very, very fast - focus and dedication!
yep,  driving while arguing philosophy, performing minor surgery, cooking for a small army, and juggling Goslings. 

Blink and something's going to get dropped, popped, or stopped. ^_^

EwB
:laugh:
My wife just mentioned the other day (after a stressful homeschooling day): "I feel like I'm going a hundred miles an hour while juggling!"
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Post by: knobster on February 23, 2012, 05:49:10 am
We've got a ditty the kids learn here as well:

"Bolts back, mags out, flags in, safteys on, ground your rifle, step back. "

So far - no printouts are needed  :rolleyes:.
Almost sounds like you all are out with the Garands.  (minus the 'mags out' part)
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Post by: mutti on February 23, 2012, 08:54:49 am
Almost sounds like you all are out with the Garands.  (minus the 'mags out' part)

Glenda is off @ the Garand doctor to get a thorough going over (sigh - I miss her), but we're working on the Rifleman's Quarter Mile in everything from Rugers to Bolt Action. (My latest attempt with the Marlin: (http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7049/6774944998_98629989d4_z.jpg))

ND used her @ the last AS and made a 199. A few more AQTs and he would have re-qualified.  We only have 1 minion left (9 yo) who hasn't qualified. He is still using the Cricket though and has the love of "fast shooting" vs accurate.

Khan Academy has captured the attention of the Minions. They rush to do additional work to compete for Badges. It seems to be a Chemistry week for them.

http://www.khanacademy.org/



Title: Re: If one ever needed a reason to homeschool - you might find it here.
Post by: InLiberty on March 27, 2012, 09:29:09 pm
http://endoftheamericandream.com/archives/kids-all-over-america-are-being-put-on-buses-and-sent-to-alternate-locations-during-school-terror-drills

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In some cases, children are told during these "exercises" that a particular group of Americans is attacking the school.

For example, during a terror drill at a public school in Muskegon County, Michigan, students and teachers were told that "homeschoolers" were the ones attacking them....

    "The exercise will simulate an attack by a fictitious radical group called Wackos Against Schools and Education who believe everyone should be homeschooled. Under the scenario, a bomb is placed on the bus and is detonated while the bus is traveling on Durham, causing the bus to land on its side and fill with smoke."

You can't make this stuff up....
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Post by: gaurdduck on March 27, 2012, 10:37:24 pm
http://endoftheamericandream.com/archives/kids-all-over-america-are-being-put-on-buses-and-sent-to-alternate-locations-during-school-terror-drills

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In some cases, children are told during these "exercises" that a particular group of Americans is attacking the school.

For example, during a terror drill at a public school in Muskegon County, Michigan, students and teachers were told that "homeschoolers" were the ones attacking them....

    "The exercise will simulate an attack by a fictitious radical group called Wackos Against Schools and Education who believe everyone should be homeschooled. Under the scenario, a bomb is placed on the bus and is detonated while the bus is traveling on Durham, causing the bus to land on its side and fill with smoke."

You can't make this stuff up....

Making it up would make too much sense since logic would come into play... >.>
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Post by: knobster on March 28, 2012, 05:43:51 am
http://endoftheamericandream.com/archives/kids-all-over-america-are-being-put-on-buses-and-sent-to-alternate-locations-during-school-terror-drills

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In some cases, children are told during these "exercises" that a particular group of Americans is attacking the school.

For example, during a terror drill at a public school in Muskegon County, Michigan, students and teachers were told that "homeschoolers" were the ones attacking them....

    "The exercise will simulate an attack by a fictitious radical group called Wackos Against Schools and Education who believe everyone should be homeschooled. Under the scenario, a bomb is placed on the bus and is detonated while the bus is traveling on Durham, causing the bus to land on its side and fill with smoke."

You can't make this stuff up....
Wow.  Just shared this with my SHW.  Her eyes are opening more and more with each passing day.
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Post by: mutti on March 28, 2012, 09:07:25 am
Crazy, Crazy. This reminds me of the drills we had in Foster Care in the late 70's/early 80's. The Foster Mom had lived/been exposed to the Peoples Temple - now that was scary (She still believed that JJones was the son of G-d).

I'm thankful each day we have made the choices we have. I'm thrilled that others here have the opportunity as well.
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Post by: mutti on April 27, 2012, 06:38:52 pm
Missouri

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=oK1xSJPHdCU (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=oK1xSJPHdCU)

Basically 6 yo/Kindergardener has to use the potty.
Teacher says "No" school is doing a test (MAPS).
Child loses control being rescued later by her parents (with stuff still leaking down her leg).
Noted child isn't even required to have testing until 3rd grade, but Teacher wants her to be prepared for the future.

I believe that MAPS testing is a multi-day, multi-section, multi-hour test. Diapers are not provided.

Of course they did provide a garbage bag and she only had to wait 15 minutes for the test to finish (according to the school) - then the parental notification followed by a 20 minute trip to get the little girl.

But her parent is hoping "Policy will change." -

 :thumbsdown:

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Post by: knobster on September 06, 2012, 06:10:01 am
So the neighborhood kids started 'school' this week.  (the three who spend half their waking hours at our house)  So I ask them how school was: the 5-yr old told me all the rules that they learned: the sign for 'listen', 'be quiet', 'sit still', and on and on.  The 7-yr old told me he hated it.  The 9-yr old just shrugged.

Meanwhile, my three are happily showing me all the stuff they did, including the science book my 8-yr old is keeping that shows all his experiments, results, discussion of said results, etc.  It is funny (or sad really) how the other kids look at all the stuff my wife does for school and whine that they want to be homeschooled as well.  Some days my heart simply breaks for them.
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Post by: mutti on September 06, 2012, 08:52:52 am
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Some days my heart simply breaks for them.

Yep. You can look at it from the other side as providing an alternative concept through showing them the "Fun" in Fundamentals - learning by living I suppose you could call it.

A neighbor just sent her Grand kids back to school. She'd asked about Homeschooling and was interested - just not interested enough to take that "leap". First week back we had her Grandson tell us about the teacher telling him a "fact" about the American Revolution time line. He'd been to an Appleseed earlier in the Summer and attempted to refute the concept presented. Wack-thwack-down any "alternate" theory to the accepted classroom programme.

(Our child looked up the information, called him, provided him with the dates and encouraged him to keep thinking even when Adults were wrong.)
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Post by: MamaLiberty on September 06, 2012, 08:58:59 am
First week back we had her Grandson tell us about the teacher telling him a "fact" about the American Revolution time line. He'd been to an Appleseed earlier in the Summer and attempted to refute the concept presented. Wack-thwack-down any "alternate" theory to the accepted classroom programme.

Oh, my goodness, does this ever bring back memories. :) My sons and I had a running battle with the "official" stories every single year, especially over Lincoln and the "civil" war. I've been "nose to nose" with more than one "teacher," you can bet. Oh how I wish homeschooling had been an option then. sigh
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Post by: hangman on September 06, 2012, 03:26:22 pm
I still think the best idea is neighborhood schools. One room or former residences like so many doctors are using. Kind of neighborhood home schooling.
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Post by: bennie on September 07, 2012, 04:31:33 am
So the neighborhood kids started 'school' this week.  (the three who spend half their waking hours at our house)  So I ask them how school was: the 5-yr old told me all the rules that they learned: the sign for 'listen', 'be quiet', 'sit still', and on and on.  The 7-yr old told me he hated it.  The 9-yr old just shrugged.

Neighbor kids down the road, boy about 12 and girl about 14 I reckon. Limited interaction with them but over the last several years have had conversations from time to time. Most pleasant, polite, look-you-in-the-eye, shake you hand, and "yes sir, no sir" kids you could ever meet. I got a puppy, for a friend, from them last spring. Dad is a local cop and the wife are both very nice and they would do anything for a neighbor (when  hurricane hit us in 2008 they came by first thing to make sure we were ok and to let us know they had water via a hand well pump and to help ourselves). We don't socialize with the family except for a howdy in passing on the road. The 12 y/o boy will drive an old pk-up over to our house to collect his dogs every once in awhile.

Anyways, I watch those kids, over the years, when I am coming home from work in the mornings. Their bus picks them up at 6:40 am, on the dot, to take them to public school. At the first of the school year they always are standing out by the road with big smiles and waving to me, yelling "Hi Bennie" as I pass by. Just like clockwork, by the end of October they will be standing there without a smile, looking down at the ground, and barely lift a hand in recognition. If I stop to say hello, the smile comes back, but leaves as soon as I depart. I know that "school" is beating their butts.
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Post by: Lonewolf72 on September 08, 2012, 10:09:49 pm
My son calls going to school "going to prison". The way that they have gotten, I have trouble disagreeing. Security camera's in the halls, and all but the main door locked, so that the only entrance is the main door.

This yeat the school decided that any absence for a family function, with the exception of funerals, etc, is an unexcused absence. Which means our annual grouse huning trip will either be canceled, or I have to come up with a creative story for the idiots.
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Post by: DiabloLoco on September 08, 2012, 10:15:35 pm
Which means our annual grouse huning trip will either be canceled, or I have to come up with a creative story for the idiots.
No....No way. Just be honest about it. Keep hold of your integrity. What can they really do? NOTHING! They'd shit bricks....sure! I mean, missing school to go........HUNT.....with GUNS! But could they really DO anything about it?.......No.....
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Post by: Lonewolf72 on September 08, 2012, 10:51:19 pm
kind of thinking about telling them that he has a fever, but neglecting the information that it is "hunting fever"

Or just tell them to stuff it in there posterior cavern.
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Post by: mutti on September 09, 2012, 06:04:37 am
Here 10 absences (including illness) per semester requires a student to repeat the semester - ouch. Too bad your Son's "Environmental Ornithology Conservation Field Trip" cannot be presented as such... figure out a way to use their own BS to get what you need.

I'm sure somewhere there must be some Schools that aren't this way.

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Post by: knobster on September 09, 2012, 06:55:01 am
Tell them your son is going to attend a lesbian/gay/transgender wedding.  They will gladly excuse him then!  Heck, they may give him an 'A' for the day.
Title: Re: If one ever needed a reason to homeschool - you might find it here.
Post by: mutti on September 10, 2012, 08:29:10 am
A Terrifying Way to Discipline Children : http://www.nytimes.com/2012/09/09/opinion/sunday/a-terrifying-way-to-discipline-children.html (http://www.nytimes.com/2012/09/09/opinion/sunday/a-terrifying-way-to-discipline-children.html)

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IN my public school 40 years ago, teachers didnt lay their hands on students for bad behavior. They sent them to the principals office. But in todays often overcrowded and underfunded schools, where one in eight students receive help for special learning needs, the use of physical restraints and seclusion rooms has become a common way to maintain order.

 Its a dangerous development, as I know from my daughters experience. At the age of 5, she was kept in a seclusion room for up to an hour at a time over the course of three months, until we discovered what was happening. The trauma was severe.

According to national Department of Education data, most of the nearly 40,000 students who were restrained or isolated in seclusion rooms during the 2009-10 school year had learning, behavioral, physical or developmental needs, even though students with those issues represented just 12 percent of the student population. African-American and Hispanic students were also disproportionately isolated or restrained.

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I saw firsthand the impact of these practices six years ago when my daughter, Rose, started kindergarten in Lexington, Mass. Rose had speech and language delays. Although she sometimes became overwhelmed more quickly than other children, she was called a model of age-appropriate behavior by her preschool. One evaluation said Rose was happy, loves school, is social. She could, however, get fidgety and restless when she is unsure as to what is expected of her. When comfortable, Rose is a very participatory and appropriate class member with a great deal to contribute to her world.

Once in kindergarten, Rose began throwing violent tantrums at home. She repeatedly watched a scene from the film Finding Nemo in which a shark batters its way into a tiny room, attempting to eat the main characters. The school provided no explanation or solution. Finally, on Jan. 6, 2006, a school aide called saying that Rose had taken off her clothes. We needed to come get her.

At school, her mother and I found Rose standing alone on the cement floor of a basement mop closet, illuminated by a single light bulb. There was nothing in the closet for a child no chair, no books, no crayons, nothing but our daughter standing naked in a pool of urine, looking frightened as she tried to cover herself with her hands. On the floor lay her favorite purple-striped Hanna Andersson outfit and panties.

Rose got dressed and we removed her from the school. We later learned that Rose had been locked in the closet five times that morning. She said that during the last confinement, she needed to use the restroom but didnt want to wet her outfit. So she disrobed. Rather than help her, the school called us and then covered the narrow doors small window with a file folder, on which someone had written Dont touch!

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Meanwhile, Rose is back in public school and has found it within her to forgive those involved in her case. They werent bad people, she told me. They just didnt know about working with children.

bad, bad, bad. I cannot imagine what this group of children will deal with - wouldn't this be torture for adults to be treated this way?

Thankfully - even though offered a 16% raise over the next 4 years -  Chicago Teachers have decided to strike today: http://www.suntimes.com/15054902-761/chicago-teachers-strike-for-first-time-in-25-years-contingency-sites-ready-charters-remain-open.html (http://www.suntimes.com/15054902-761/chicago-teachers-strike-for-first-time-in-25-years-contingency-sites-ready-charters-remain-open.html)

400K students will have the opportunity to miss those "special" disciplinary moments.


Title: Re: If one ever needed a reason to homeschool - you might find it here.
Post by: knobster on September 10, 2012, 10:28:47 am
Oh my gosh... this:

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One evaluation said Rose was happy, loves school, is social. She could, however, get fidgety and restless when she is unsure as to what is expected of her. When comfortable, Rose is a very participatory and appropriate class member with a great deal to contribute to her world.

Describes my middle daughter to the T.

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Meanwhile, Rose is back in public school and has found it within her to forgive those involved in her case. They werent bad people, she told me. They just didnt know about working with children.

Rose said this?  Wow.  I don't think I would be able to forgive anyone who did this to my child.
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Post by: Rarick on September 11, 2012, 09:12:01 am
I just remember "The Corner"  now refferred to as a time out.  usually only for a matter of "eternal minutes" and you never felt forgotten about or foisted off as inimportant either.   Hours at a time in a different room would feel like the equivalent of a Gitmo sentance, tossed on an island and forgotten........
Title: Re: If one ever needed a reason to homeschool - you might find it here.
Post by: mutti on October 09, 2012, 12:00:52 pm
How long until there is some study suggesting that little Johnny or Jill is being deprived of life of less blah and should, well, must take whatever. so sad.

Attention Disorder or Not, Pills to Help in School : http://www.nytimes.com/2012/10/09/health/attention-disorder-or-not-children-prescribed-pills-to-help-in-school.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0 (http://www.nytimes.com/2012/10/09/health/attention-disorder-or-not-children-prescribed-pills-to-help-in-school.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0)

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When Dr. Michael Anderson hears about his low-income patients struggling in elementary school, he usually gives them a taste of some powerful medicine: Adderall.

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Dr. Anderson is one of the more outspoken proponents of an idea that is gaining interest among some physicians. They are prescribing stimulants to struggling students in schools starved of extra money not to treat A.D.H.D., necessarily, but to boost their academic performance.

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On the Rocafort familys kitchen shelf in Ball Ground, Ga., next to the peanut butter and chicken broth, sits a wire basket brimming with bottles of the childrens medications, prescribed by Dr. Anderson: Adderall for Alexis, 12; and Ethan, 9; Risperdal (an antipsychotic for mood stabilization) for Quintn and Perry, both 11; and Clonidine (a sleep aid to counteract the other medications) for all four, taken nightly.

Quintn began taking Adderall for A.D.H.D. about five years ago, when his disruptive school behavior led to calls home and in-school suspensions. He immediately settled down and became a more earnest, attentive student a little bit more like Perry, who also took Adderall for his A.D.H.D.

When pubertys chemical maelstrom began at about 10, though, Quintn got into fights at school because, he said, other children were insulting his mother. The problem was, they were not; Quintn was seeing people and hearing voices that were not there, a rare but recognized side effect of Adderall. After Quintn admitted to being suicidal, Dr. Anderson prescribed a week in a local psychiatric hospital, and a switch to Risperdal.

While telling this story, the Rocaforts called Quintn into the kitchen and asked him to describe why he had been given Adderall.

To help me focus on my school work, my homework, listening to Mom and Dad, and not doing what I used to do to my teachers, to make them mad, he said. He described the week in the hospital and the effects of Risperdal: If I dont take my medicine Id be having attitudes. Id be disrespecting my parents. I wouldnt be like this.

Despite Quintns experience with Adderall, the Rocaforts decided to use it with their 12-year-old daughter, Alexis, and 9-year-old son, Ethan. These children dont have A.D.H.D., their parents said. The Adderall is merely to help their grades, and because Alexis was, in her fathers words, a little blah.
Title: Re: If one ever needed a reason to homeschool - you might find it here.
Post by: Rarick on October 10, 2012, 10:43:51 am
Altering the chemistry of growing brains that get used to not having to control their own moods.........I see a DARK cloud looming.

<distant ghostly voice> So-Ma, soma, so ma, soma!<fade to black>
Title: Re: If one ever needed a reason to homeschool - you might find it here.
Post by: gaurdduck on October 10, 2012, 10:26:42 pm
A few recent items:

Judge jails honors student for 11 days of absence (most schools consider lateness to be 1/4 day absent)
http://rt.com/usa/news/texas-judge-jail-tran-532/

microchip id bullshit
http://rt.com/usa/news/texas-school-id-hernandez-033/
Title: Re: If one ever needed a reason to homeschool - you might find it here.
Post by: mutti on October 18, 2012, 10:36:05 pm
19 Crazy Things That School Children Are Being Arrested For In America : http://endoftheamericandream.com/archives/19-crazy-things-that-school-children-are-being-arrested-for-in-america (http://endoftheamericandream.com/archives/19-crazy-things-that-school-children-are-being-arrested-for-in-america)

I am thankful for the opportunity to HS.
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Post by: mutti on November 16, 2012, 06:50:41 pm
Declo Teacher Allows Students to Draw on Faces as Reading 'Incentive' :
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http://magicvalley.com/news/local/mini-cassia/declo-teacher-allows-students-to-draw-on-faces-as-reading/article_53cc8f74-c988-5f57-90e8-bb5e2ac10292.html

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Fourth-graders who failed to achieve reading goals had their faces scribbled on with permanent marker by other students last week at Declo Elementary School under the supervision of their teacher.

Some parents and Cassia County School District leadership are now decrying the consequences for the nine students, some of whom have learning problems.

When Cindy Hursts 10-year-old son arrived home from school Nov. 5, his entire face, hairline to chin, was scribbled on in red marker including his eyelids. He also had green, red and purple scribble marks over the red, and his face was scratched by a marker that had a rough edge.

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The 21 students in the class have Accelerated Reading goals where they read a set number of books in a given time frame, Smyer said.

Larsen allowed the students to choose their own incentive to meet the reading goal. The class chose to have students who did not meet the goal either stay inside at recess until the goal was met, or have their faces written on by their classmates who met their goals.

Nine of the students in the class did not meet their goals. Of those, six chose to have their faces marked on and three chose to forgo recess.

Although all the students in the class agreed to the incentive, once it occurred it was not so well received. Nor should it have been, Smyer said.

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Robinson said the children had their faces marked on in the morning. They had to leave it on all day, but were told to wash it off before they went home.

It was a humiliation because they had to wear it all day and other kids were asking them about it and laughing at them, he said.

aaagggghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
Title: Re: If one ever needed a reason to homeschool - you might find it here.
Post by: MamaLiberty on November 17, 2012, 07:13:04 am
First, that was no "teacher," but a sadistic person who should never be trusted near children or anyone else incapable of self defense.

And yes, if this didn't convince people to remove their children from government "school," I wonder what would...  Torture is indeed an "incentive," but not for anything good.
Title: Re: If one ever needed a reason to homeschool - you might find it here.
Post by: slidemansailor on November 17, 2012, 09:44:28 am
First, that was no "teacher," but a sadistic person who should never be trusted near children or anyone else incapable of self defense.

And yes, if this didn't convince people to remove their children from government "school," I wonder what would...  Torture is indeed an "incentive," but not for anything good.

EggsAxtly!!!  The reasons to get/keep your kids, our kids, everybody's kids out of there stack up over and over, to the moon. But the deaf, dumb and blind automatons cannot envision an alternative... no matter how many times it is shown to them.   AAaaaugh!!! 
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Post by: mutti on December 02, 2012, 12:17:06 pm
Teacher's Reward Program Charges Second-Graders for Bathroom Breaks : http://www.nbcdfw.com/news/local/Teacher-Charges-Second-Graders-for-Bathroom-Breaks-181634781.html (http://www.nbcdfw.com/news/local/Teacher-Charges-Second-Graders-for-Bathroom-Breaks-181634781.html)

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The mother of a 7-year-old Irving elementary school student says her son wet his pants in class after his teacher refused to let him use the restroom Thursday afternoon.

"I was absolutely appalled," Sonja Cross said. "I could not believe it."

The first-year teacher at J.O. Davis Elementary awards her students with "Boyd Bucks" for good behavior. Going to the bathroom outside of the three scheduled breaks costs two Boyd Bucks per trip.

Cross' son, an honor roll student, needed to go to the bathroom, but he sat back down because he didnt have any Boyd Bucks, his mother said.

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Cross complained to the teacher, but didnt like the response.

"Originally when I first spoke with the teacher, she was just going to show my son special treatment, but then I said, 'That's just not good enough. I need for you to stop this for all the children,'" she said.

Cross informed school administrators, who quickly told the teacher to stop charging her students to go to the bathroom.
Title: Re: If one ever needed a reason to homeschool - you might find it here.
Post by: mutti on December 09, 2012, 11:03:57 am
If these people are the ones teaching Math and Economics (Okay - that is a stretch. Just think about how much money could be saved by Homeschooling!):

School District Owes $1 Billion On $100 Million Loan : http://www.npr.org/2012/12/07/166745290/school-district-owes-1-billion-on-100-million-loan (http://www.npr.org/2012/12/07/166745290/school-district-owes-1-billion-on-100-million-loan)
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Perhaps the best example of the CAB issue is suburban San Diego's Poway Unified School District, which borrowed a little more than $100 million. But "debt service will be almost $1 billion," Lockyer says. "So, over nine times amount of the borrowing. There are worse ones, but that's pretty bad."

Title: Re: If one ever needed a reason to homeschool - you might find it here.
Post by: PJ on December 16, 2012, 12:32:44 pm
The best reason for you to homeschool...the school shooting at Newtown, Connecticut.  'nuff said.
Title: Re: If one ever needed a reason to homeschool - you might find it here.
Post by: gaurdduck on December 17, 2012, 12:40:00 am
The best reason for you to homeschool...the school shooting at Newtown, Connecticut.  'nuff said.

Yup
Title: Re: If one ever needed a reason to homeschool - you might find it here.
Post by: Speaker on December 19, 2012, 02:29:24 am
If these people are the ones teaching Math and Economics (Okay - that is a stretch. Just think about how much money could be saved by Homeschooling!):

School District Owes $1 Billion On $100 Million Loan : http://www.npr.org/2012/12/07/166745290/school-district-owes-1-billion-on-100-million-loan (http://www.npr.org/2012/12/07/166745290/school-district-owes-1-billion-on-100-million-loan)
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Perhaps the best example of the CAB issue is suburban San Diego's Poway Unified School District, which borrowed a little more than $100 million. But "debt service will be almost $1 billion," Lockyer says. "So, over nine times amount of the borrowing. There are worse ones, but that's pretty bad."

I could not read the article as it is a government site with a non-standard certificate.

However, was that "Bill Lockyer"? You know, the attorney general who boasted on a radio talk show that homosexual rape is an official part of prison torture in California; thereby confessing in public to thousands of counts of homosexual rape?

I just, sorta, wondered. That's all.


Speaker
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Post by: mutti on December 19, 2012, 08:02:59 am
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I could not read the article as it is a government site with a non-standard certificate.

A different source - sorry about the above - didn't see any problem.

http://www.educationnews.org/education-policy-and-politics/san-diego-area-district-owes-1-billion-on-100-million-loan/ (http://www.educationnews.org/education-policy-and-politics/san-diego-area-district-owes-1-billion-on-100-million-loan/)

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The real price of debt was made clear this year to many California school districts that took out loans to make up budget shortfalls brought on by state and federal budget cuts. Around the state, there are now several districts who find themselves in a situation of owing much more money than they borrowed and without any real plan to deal with the problem.

Such is the case of West Contra Costa School District, which borrowed $2.5 million in 2010 to secure a $25 million loan subsidized by the federal government. The district desperately needed the funds because the growth of its student population left it woefully short of elementary school places. In the end, school board president Charles Ramsey said that it felt like paying $2.5 million to get $25 million was a pretty good bargain at the time.

Yet now, because of the vehicle the district used to finance that loan, issuing CABs capital appreciation bonds rather than typical bonds and pushing the repayment forward indefinitely to square the $2.5 million they borrowed, they will need to repay close to $34 million.

Title: Re: If one ever needed a reason to homeschool - you might find it here.
Post by: Rarick on December 19, 2012, 08:06:43 am
Exactly why neighborhoods have to take charge of their schools rather than distant bureaucrats and out of touch Ivory Tower academics.
Title: Re: If one ever needed a reason to homeschool - you might find it here.
Post by: mutti on January 23, 2013, 03:46:43 pm
Philadelphia fifth grader searched by school officials after bringing paper gun to class

 http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/grader-hassled-bringing-paper-gun-class-article-1.1245647#ixzz2Ipz4jd2n (http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/grader-hassled-bringing-paper-gun-class-article-1.1245647#ixzz2Ipz4jd2n)

offending article:

(http://assets.nydailynews.com/polopoly_fs/1.1245645!/img/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/landscape_635/paper24n-2-web.jpg)

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The piece of paper in question was crafted by Melody's grandfather the day before the incident, but was not very elaborate. It was just a piece of folded paper, Dianna Kelly said.

Melody didn't realize the piece of paper was still on her person when she took it out of her pocket. A classmate saw the "gun" and reported it to the school official.

See something? Say something..............................................
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Post by: DiabloLoco on January 23, 2013, 06:55:31 pm
Philadelphia fifth grader searched by school officials after bringing paper gun to class

 http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/grader-hassled-bringing-paper-gun-class-article-1.1245647#ixzz2Ipz4jd2n (http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/grader-hassled-bringing-paper-gun-class-article-1.1245647#ixzz2Ipz4jd2n)

offending article:

(http://assets.nydailynews.com/polopoly_fs/1.1245645!/img/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/landscape_635/paper24n-2-web.jpg)

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The piece of paper in question was crafted by Melody's grandfather the day before the incident, but was not very elaborate. It was just a piece of folded paper, Dianna Kelly said.

Melody didn't realize the piece of paper was still on her person when she took it out of her pocket. A classmate saw the "gun" and reported it to the school official.

See something? Say something..............................................
Well, they might as well tell states like Oklahoma and Florida to take the maps off the walls then! I mean, they kinda resemble GUNS don't cha know?!?
Title: Re: If one ever needed a reason to homeschool - you might find it here.
Post by: RockofStrength on January 23, 2013, 07:46:04 pm
Meanwhile, Nebraskans are going  :huh:

(http://www.merriam-webster.com/maps/images/nebraska_map.gif)
Title: Re: If one ever needed a reason to homeschool - you might find it here.
Post by: DiabloLoco on January 23, 2013, 07:51:46 pm
Meanwhile, Nebraskans are going  :huh:

(http://www.merriam-webster.com/maps/images/nebraska_map.gif)
Nope...That one is no good either. It looks like the outline of a small cannon.  :mellow:
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Post by: gaurdduck on January 23, 2013, 09:00:00 pm
Witch hunt...
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Post by: knobster on January 24, 2013, 06:17:00 am
Just sent this article to my SHW.  With a small note thanking her for homeschooling our kids.
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Post by: MamaLiberty on January 28, 2013, 12:18:22 pm
doesn't sound like a good place for any child...

Toilet paper restrictions concern Mahanoy Area parent
http://republicanherald.com/news/toilet-paper-restrictions-concern-mahanoy-area-parent-1.1435891
High school Principal Thomas Smith said it was a solution to a major problem.

"We've had serious destruction to our bathrooms for the past two years," Smith said. "We have a case pending with the police where a bathroom down by our gymnasium was absolutely destroyed. I'm sure Mr. (Robert) Pastucha (district facilities director) could tell you the times that our toilets have been jammed with toilet paper and other papers. And after we took the toilet tissue out of there, people were throwing books. It was our way to try to curb the destruction in the bathrooms."

Smith explained the procedure in getting the toilet tissue.

"Our policy is that if you need toilet paper, you would come to the office. We're not refusing anyone toilet paper," Smith said. "You would sign out and then sign back in. I randomly go in to check if anything is going on. Since we've done that, we've cut down on the destruction."
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Post by: Bear on January 28, 2013, 06:16:00 pm
That paper 'gun' is sort of an ink-blot test. If you hold it so the corner is pointing up, it's a tent.
If you hold it so it looks like an 'L', it becomes a boot. The fact that anything which might be
taken as a gun shape by some people must be treated as a real gun, shows just how psychologically
screwed up the system is.

Bear
Title: Re: If one ever needed a reason to homeschool - you might find it here.
Post by: Bear on January 28, 2013, 06:22:17 pm
doesn't sound like a good place for any child...

Toilet paper restrictions concern Mahanoy Area parent
http://republicanherald.com/news/toilet-paper-restrictions-concern-mahanoy-area-parent-1.1435891
High school Principal Thomas Smith said it was a solution to a major problem.

"We've had serious destruction to our bathrooms for the past two years," Smith said. "We have a case pending with the police where a bathroom down by our gymnasium was absolutely destroyed. I'm sure Mr. (Robert) Pastucha (district facilities director) could tell you the times that our toilets have been jammed with toilet paper and other papers. And after we took the toilet tissue out of there, people were throwing books. It was our way to try to curb the destruction in the bathrooms."

Smith explained the procedure in getting the toilet tissue.

"Our policy is that if you need toilet paper, you would come to the office. We're not refusing anyone toilet paper," Smith said. "You would sign out and then sign back in. I randomly go in to check if anything is going on. Since we've done that, we've cut down on the destruction."

Sounds like some sort of prison.

Bear
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Post by: mutti on January 29, 2013, 10:49:48 am
Cary Grove Drill To Include Shooting Blanks In Hallways : http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2013/01/29/cary-grove-drill-to-include-shooting-blanks-in-hallways/ (http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2013/01/29/cary-grove-drill-to-include-shooting-blanks-in-hallways/)
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A school shooting drill planned for tomorrow in the far northwestern suburbs has many parents upset.

According to a letter from Cary-Grove High School principal Jay Sargeant, there will be a code red drill at the school on Wednesday.

It will include somebody shooting blanks from a gun in the hallway in an effort to provide our teachers and students some familiarity with the sound of gunfire.

Title: Re: If one ever needed a reason to homeschool - you might find it here.
Post by: MamaLiberty on January 29, 2013, 11:30:34 am
Cary Grove Drill To Include Shooting Blanks In Hallways : http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2013/01/29/cary-grove-drill-to-include-shooting-blanks-in-hallways/ (http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2013/01/29/cary-grove-drill-to-include-shooting-blanks-in-hallways/)

Brilliant...  ;p
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Post by: mutti on January 30, 2013, 08:39:43 am
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/01/30/nypd-cops-handcuff-and-interrogate-boy-7-over-missing-5-family-claims/?test=latestnews#ixzz2JTBfqwXR (http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/01/30/nypd-cops-handcuff-and-interrogate-boy-7-over-missing-5-family-claims/?test=latestnews#ixzz2JTBfqwXR)

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The bizarre overreaction by cops came after the child had been accused of swiping $5 from another student after school.

The money, which was supposed to be used for a school trip that never happened, had fallen on the ground in front of Wilson and two other boys, and one of them scooped it up.

Wilson was falsely accused of taking it, and he scuffled with one of the kids.

Officers showed up at PS X114 on Dec. 4 at about 10:20 a.m., and handcuffed and held Wilson in a room there for four hours. They then hauled him off to the 44th Precinct station house for another six hours of interrogation and verbal abuse, according to a $250 million claim against the city and the NYPD.

7 years old


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Post by: mutti on January 30, 2013, 05:18:32 pm
Kansas City - MO -  High School To Collect Students Hair For Mandatory Drug Testing : http://stlouis.cbslocal.com/2013/01/30/high-school-to-collect-students-hair-for-mandatory-drug-testing/ (http://stlouis.cbslocal.com/2013/01/30/high-school-to-collect-students-hair-for-mandatory-drug-testing/)
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Matthew Brocato, the schools junior class president, told The Kansas City Star that the mandatory drug testing is not to punish students who fail.

When you hear drug testing, you think cops, Brocato told the Star. At first youre taken aback. Is it for the better?

hm - I see politics in his future -

**I double checked and this is a Private School (apparently they are a Nationwide college prep type system). It was not 100% clear in the article.
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Post by: mutti on February 10, 2013, 08:16:32 am
Revisionism and incomplete thought process - alive and well :

http://www.religionnews.com/2013/02/06/did-gun-control-prevent-jews-from-stopping-the-holocaust/ (http://www.religionnews.com/2013/02/06/did-gun-control-prevent-jews-from-stopping-the-holocaust/)

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"Though none dispute that the Nazis in 1938 issued The Regulations Against Jews Possession of Weapons, which prohibited Jews from having guns or any other kind of weapon, they find nonsensical the assertion that this law is what doomed European.

Guns could not have made the difference, columnist Michael Moynihan wrote in the Tablet, an online magazine of Jewish culture. The Holocaust was a state-sanctioned outpouring of violence from the German public, so the idea that gun control stood in the way of Jewish survival vastly overstates the effectiveness of a tiny minority resisting a genocidal machine, he wrote."

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Thats a pattern with anti-Jewish violence, said Polonsky. Attempts at self-defense provoke more violence. The same occurred when Jews took up arms during the Russian pogroms of the early 20th century, and when blacks did the same in the American South before the civil rights era, he said.

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I know it's not "PC" of me, because I'm not Jewish and don't have their "Historical Perspective". However I think this article is stacked full of crap. I recently was talking to a 13 yo about "What he was learning in school." They happen to be covering WWII and his Grandfather was discussing a line in his text book which in general stated the "perceived atrocities during the Holocaust".

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Evil takes a long time to gestate - one event here, a law to "Protect Us" there, Zones "Free" of stuff, additional Fees so everything operates equally everywhere.

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Why in this thread? I'd encourage people to actually see what their Children are reading in School and perhaps provide some alternate discussion if possible.

Help your kids learn to learn so that each opportunity of healthy questioning leads to their own thought.



Title: Re: If one ever needed a reason to homeschool - you might find it here.
Post by: mutti on March 02, 2013, 08:02:08 am
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/03/02/boy-7-suspended-for-shaping-pastry-into-gun-dad-says/?test=latestnews (http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/03/02/boy-7-suspended-for-shaping-pastry-into-gun-dad-says/?test=latestnews)

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A 7-year-old Maryland boy was suspended from school for two days for shaping a breakfast pastry into what his teacher thought looked like a gun, according to his father.

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A letter was sent home with students explaining that "a student used food to make an inappropriate gesture," the station reported.

I don't know - a Carrot and 2 new potatoes perhaps - but a pop tart? Dude - he was trying to make a mountain and they ended up making a mountain out of a mole hill.


Title: Re: If one ever needed a reason to homeschool - you might find it here.
Post by: slidemansailor on March 03, 2013, 01:16:11 am
How anyone in the district can send their kids to an asylum run by the lunatics is beyond me. 

I remember picking up my daughter from pubic HS for a pocket knife and walking out thinking she got a full week off for good behavior.  The office workers suspected my attitude wasn't exactly what they wanted, but didn't have anything else to do.

Now I'd be pushing them for a longer suspension.

Nah. They simply wouldn't be vulnerable to those folks.
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Post by: Moonbeam on May 15, 2013, 10:56:39 am
I met a friend at the park Monday so our kiddos could play together. She invited one of her friends, too. This gal didn't have much of a filter. When she asked where my kids would be going for kindergarten I told her I would be homeschooling. She told me that she used to teach kindergarten, but that she's scared to teach her own kids. She said that when she mentioned maybe homeschooling her kids her DH asked her if she was crazy. Then he said that no, he wants his kids to be "normal" and go to a "normal" school and be "normal" kids with other "normal" kids. It must have dawned on her how that came across because a few minutes later she said, "not that your kids aren't normal." I just smiled (because honestly I wasn't offended, I pitied her to some degree) and said, "Your husband's opinion doesn't rustle my feathers. I am well aware of how others view homeschooling and I don't care. I am doing what's right for my kids." Then I had to bite my tongue because part of me wanted to add, "And you and yours are another reason why I am glad I am homeschooling my beloved."
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Post by: Bear on May 17, 2013, 04:12:26 pm
I met a friend at the park Monday so our kiddos could play together. She invited one of her friends, too. This gal didn't have much of a filter. When she asked where my kids would be going for kindergarten I told her I would be homeschooling. She told me that she used to teach kindergarten, but that she's scared to teach her own kids. She said that when she mentioned maybe homeschooling her kids her DH asked her if she was crazy. Then he said that no, he wants his kids to be "normal" and go to a "normal" school and be "normal" kids with other "normal" kids. It must have dawned on her how that came across because a few minutes later she said, "not that your kids aren't normal." I just smiled (because honestly I wasn't offended, I pitied her to some degree) and said, "Your husband's opinion doesn't rustle my feathers. I am well aware of how others view homeschooling and I don't care. I am doing what's right for my kids." Then I had to bite my tongue because part of me wanted to add, "And you and yours are another reason why I am glad I am homeschooling my beloved."

  :wav:  :thumbsup:

Bear
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Post by: PJ on May 23, 2013, 08:06:26 pm
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Florida Teacher Suspended for Touching Student with 'Banana Penis'

A former Teacher of the Year at North Marion High School in Marion County, Florida, was suspended without pay after a student complained that he touched her inappropriately with a banana during a college-level lecture on "cylinder objects, phalluses and/or sex symbols."

The incident took place three months ago, but the student only came forward last week.

A discipline letter sent to Jonathan Hampton claims the teacher "crossed a line" while discussing the "Freudian implications" of One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest.

The student alleges that Hampton "rubbed [her] head and neck area with a banana," leaving her embarrassed and humiliated.

"That is disgusting, very disgusting," said the grandmother of a student at the school. "I don't think he should be allowed to teach kids. You don't do stuff like that and get away with it."

Hampton's lawyer (and stepfather) Mark Fiedelholtz says the entire thing was blown out of proportion, and that Hampton tapped a student with a banana from his lunch to get her attention, and that sometimes a banana is just a banana.

"There was nothing else to it," the attorney said.

After conducting its own investigation into the matter, the school district issued Hampton an official reprimand saying it was poor judgement on his part to use "a banana to make physical contact with a student."

The teacher has since completed the three-day suspension and was allowed to return to class.
http://tinyurl.com/lv3zadw (http://tinyurl.com/lv3zadw)
I don't quite know what to say...I certainly don't remember classes like this when I was in public school, and I took honors classes.  Of course, that was quite awhile ago (1970's).  But...Freudian analysis of cylinder objects and such???
Title: Re: If one ever needed a reason to homeschool - you might find it here.
Post by: bennie on May 31, 2013, 01:07:00 am
(I've probably mentioned this family before on this forum. I don't know them personally but my wife does because she knows everybody since she runs the little 1 person post office.)

Little town I live outside of (pop about 230), is  a family that has 6 kids. They homeschool. In yesterdays weekly paper from the town of 2000, 15 miles away, one of the boys in the family is the Valedictorian for this school year. The family homeschools until the kid is a sophomore or junior, and then they go to the high school 15 miles away.

This is the 3rd time (in my almost 8 years of living here) that one of their kids is the valedictorian. The oldest got a full scholarship to Texas A&M and graduated with honors 1 1/2 years ago. The 2nd boy is presently going to Texas A&M on scholarship. This 3rd one I guess will do the same. There are still 2 more boys and one girl at home. The youngest is 6 y/o.

They have a small brick home, with several acres, just inside the city limits of our town. They garden and have a few animals they raise. Everything about them is neat as a pin. When one, or more, of them come into the post office you have never met more relaxed, friendly, pleasant, well-mannered, and  put together folks. The parents are just salt of the earth good people. The kids are a joy to talk to (according to my wife) and not a bit of fake or phoneyism to them. Several times I have driven by their place and seen them at work or play. They seem like genuinely happy people.
Title: Re: If one ever needed a reason to homeschool - you might find it here.
Post by: socalserf on August 31, 2013, 04:48:38 pm
Here is one from San Bernadino CA-
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California school district says kids wont have to kneel in front of principal anymore
Principal Dana Carters bizarre kneeling policy was supposed to be a way to calm down overexcited children. But some parents thought the rule was belittling and controlling.


Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/california-elementary-school-kids-reportedly-forced-kneel-principal-article-1.1436025#ixzz2daNvGF2V
Title: Re: If one ever needed a reason to homeschool - you might find it here.
Post by: knobster on September 01, 2013, 06:57:02 am
Happy, polite and friendly people who homeschool?  No way!  There must be something wrong!  I just don't buy it.  Happiness can only be found at the fed.gov indoctrination camps.  Stop spreading your horribly inaccurate stories!  Hail our dear leaders!!!

[/sarc]

P.S. Great story bennie
Title: Re: If one ever needed a reason to homeschool - you might find it here.
Post by: bennie on September 02, 2013, 01:28:51 am
Happy, polite and friendly people who homeschool?  No way!  There must be something wrong!  I just don't buy it.  Happiness can only be found at the fed.gov indoctrination camps.  Stop spreading your horribly inaccurate stories!  Hail our dear leaders!!!

[/sarc]

P.S. Great story bennie

Something else my wife told me about the family that I did not know. The father teaches high school in the town of 2000, 15 miles away, that the kids spend their last couple of years going to after home-schooling. He has been there teaching for over 15 years. A few months ago a school in a Houston suburb made him an excellent offer and they planned to move....the wife came into the post office asking about an address change and told my wife the story....saying they were not sure if they were going to sell their place or not because the thought of uprooting to move to mega city was overwhelming in their thinking no matter how good the offer.

In fact, a couple of weeks ago, they turned the offer down and will continue to live in tiny town here in the piney woods.
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Post by: NuclearDruid on September 02, 2013, 10:08:25 am
Nice story Bennie. Thanks for sharing. I'm not sure we could ever move back to the burbs either. I hope that the family did what was in their best interest. That's all that really matters in the end.

ND
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Post by: clarence on November 30, 2013, 05:49:59 pm
dad arrested for picking up kids at school by foot (http://www.theurbancountry.com/2013/11/dad-arrested-for-picking-up-kids-at-school-by-foot.html)

in tennessee, seems the local school board has make rules requiring a car to pick up children after school.  the comments are revealing (like no support for this).

clarence
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Post by: Moonbeam on January 30, 2014, 02:05:00 pm
Lunches seized from Utah school kids because of unpaid hills

http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2014/01/30/22504777-reports-lunches-seized-from-utah-schoolkids-because-of-unpaid-bills?lite

By Henry Austin, NBC News contributor

Dozens of children at a Utah school had their lunches seized and thrown away because they did not have enough money in their accounts, prompting an angry response from parents, it was reported. Up to 40 kids suffered similar treatment, given fruit and milk as their lunches were thrown away, the station reported.  

Erica Lukes called the move traumatic and humiliating and told the Salt Lake Tribune she was all paid up. "I think its despicable," she said. "These are young children that shouldnt be punished or humiliated for something the parents obviously need to clear up."

Salt Lake City District Spokesperson Jason Olsen told the Tribune that parents had been notified about negative balances on Monday and a child nutrition manager had decided to withhold lunches to deal with the issue. They were thrown away because once food is served to one student it cant be served to another, he explained.
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Post by: DiabloLoco on January 30, 2014, 05:17:36 pm
Here's another one for you-

NYC school cuts popular gifted program over lack of diversity: report

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/jan/30/nyc-school-cuts-popular-gifted-program-over-lack-d/

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A popular gifted-student program at a New York City elementary school is getting the ax after school officials decided it lacked diversity.
PS 139 Principal Mary McDonald told parents in a letter Jan. 24 that Students of Academic Rigor, or SOAR, would no longer accept applications for incoming kindergartners, the New York Daily Newsreported.
Our Kindergarten classes will be heterogeneously grouped to reflect the diversity of our student body and the community we live in, Miss McDonald said in the letter posted on Flickr.com.
At least one parent described SOAR as largely white, while others disagreed, the report said.
One mother conceded the program did have a lot of white students, but worried gifted students now wont be challenged enough.
Where are they going to put the higher-level students? Sometimes, there are different levels, and teachers cant handle all the levels in one class, she told the Daily News.


Title: Re: If one ever needed a reason to homeschool - you might find it here.
Post by: knobster on April 10, 2015, 05:59:06 am
Talking with my SHW last night about the end of the school year - plan to be done the Friday before Memorial Day.  Our son overheard this and exclaimed, "What?  But <insert neighbor boy's name> is done at the same time!"  We were surprised to hear this news.  The public schools have taken many snow/ice days and at least once a week there are "teacher inservice days" which means half-days (but still counted as full days).  No to mention every other Friday off from school.  Come to think of it, it's rare that they receive 5 days worth of learning every week!

It's hard to explain to a 10-yr old that he will be much better prepared to face the world after all this hard work vs skating through indoctrination camps...
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Post by: DiabloLoco on April 10, 2015, 06:07:38 am
Talking with my SHW last night about the end of the school year - plan to be done the Friday before Memorial Day.  Our son overheard this and exclaimed, "What?  But <insert neighbor boy's name> is done at the same time!"  We were surprised to hear this news.  The public schools have taken many snow/ice days and at least once a week there are "teacher inservice days" which means half-days (but still counted as full days).  No to mention every other Friday off from school.  Come to think of it, it's rare that they receive 5 days worth of learning every week!

It's hard to explain to a 10-yr old that he will be much better prepared to face the world after all this hard work vs skating through indoctrination camps...
Wow. That's early. Schools around here run until early-mid June, depending on the number of "snow days".
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Post by: knobster on April 10, 2015, 09:11:43 am
Talking with my SHW last night about the end of the school year - plan to be done the Friday before Memorial Day.  Our son overheard this and exclaimed, "What?  But <insert neighbor boy's name> is done at the same time!"  We were surprised to hear this news.  The public schools have taken many snow/ice days and at least once a week there are "teacher inservice days" which means half-days (but still counted as full days).  No to mention every other Friday off from school.  Come to think of it, it's rare that they receive 5 days worth of learning every week!

It's hard to explain to a 10-yr old that he will be much better prepared to face the world after all this hard work vs skating through indoctrination camps...
Wow. That's early. Schools around here run until early-mid June, depending on the number of "snow days".
That's what we thought.  Last year they were released the first week of June.  Guess the rules have changed and they require even less now!
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Post by: Moonbeam on April 17, 2015, 02:22:58 pm
We finished first grade day today!!!

Around these parts (near the Big Bad City in the middle of the states) kids finish school mid-May and start back the first week of August. When I went to high school down in Florida, we got out mid-June and went back a few days before Labor Day.
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Post by: knobster on April 18, 2015, 07:30:16 am
We finished first grade day today!!!

Around these parts (near the Big Bad City in the middle of the states) kids finish school mid-May and start back the first week of August. When I went to high school down in Florida, we got out mid-June and went back a few days before Labor Day.

 :wav:

Awesome news moon!
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Post by: Moonbeam on April 25, 2015, 12:24:25 am
Thanks, Knobster! I will be supplementing the book your wife was kind enough to send me over the summertime. As most homeschoolers know, homeschooling is a year-round thing!
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Post by: knobster on April 25, 2015, 06:30:37 am
Thanks, Knobster! I will be supplementing the book your wife was kind enough to send me over the summertime. As most homeschoolers know, homeschooling is a year-round thing!

Yes it is!  My SHW is already thinking about the different field trips and projects to tackle over the summer.  I don't know where she gets all that strength but by golly I'm glad I married her.
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Post by: Moonbeam on July 31, 2015, 01:38:47 pm
I was over at the Ron Paul curriculum site and came across this:

The two main social sciences taught in the public schools are government and economics. Neither is taught from the position of the freedom philosophy of limited civil government. The reigning outlook is that of the welfare state.

This outlook has dominated public education from the beginning of public schools in Massachusetts in 1840s. John Taylor Gatto, the Teacher of the Year three times in New York City and once in New York State, quit teaching for the city. He has become an advocate for home schooling. In his great book, The Underground history of American Education, he wrote this.


"The religious purpose of modern schooling was announced clearly by the legendary University of Wisconsin sociologist Edward A. Ross in 1901 in his famous book, Social Control. Your librarian should be able to locate a copy for you without much trouble. In it Ed Ross wrote these words for his prominent following: "Plans are underway to replace community, family, and church with propaganda, education, and mass media. the State shakes loose from Church, reaches out to School. People are only little plastic lumps of human dough." Social Control revolutionized the discipline of sociology and had powerful effects on the other human sciences: in social science it guided the direction of political science, economics, and psychology; in biology it influenced genetics, eugenics, and psychobiology."

http://www.lewrockwell.com/2010/08/john-taylor-gatto/waging-war-on-god-and-family/

These people believe in social science for the sake of social control. They teach social science to 6-year-olds.
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Post by: MamaLiberty on July 31, 2015, 02:01:30 pm
There is no such thing as a "limited government" - probably not even if it is voluntary. Most certainly not the involuntary sort. The whole "limited government" thing is the reason I don't have much use for Ron Paul... He talks a good game otherwise, but there is always this zinger lurking in the background.
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Post by: Moonbeam on September 30, 2015, 10:08:47 pm
Children Regulated on Playgrounds

Karen De Coster   
September 25, 2015
https://www.lewrockwell.com/lrc-blog/children-regulated-on-playgrounds/

A Washington school bans the game of tag to ensure the physical and emotional safety of students. Folks in the media cant seem to understand why safety is a consideration, yet the kids are being encouraged to play the schools rough-and-tumble team sports....

Why is this hard to understand? Its not about physical safety, at all. Its all about constructing sanitized, controlled environments and a supervised diversity lab for children. Spontaneous play is not quota-driven; it is not diverse & inclusive per some predetermined, bureaucratic decree; and it does not conform to regulated behavior. Childs play is impromptu and unforced, and children will innately appoint natural leaders and establish a hierarchy system that governs their play, without regards to color, gender, or sexual orientation. Unpremeditated, voluntary play also does not establish politically-correct rules for opting in or out. This is not acceptable in these dark ages of government schooling.</snip>
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Post by: MamaLiberty on November 02, 2015, 08:27:56 am
Doesn't get any clearer than this... Get those children OUT of this insanity. sigh

The chain of command and the executioner in the classroom
November 2, 2015
William Norman Grigg Pro Libertate

"The 'resource officers' who prowl the hallways of government-operated schools throughout the soyuz aren't present to enhance the security of the inmates, but to be 'authority figures' -- that is, people who can inflict injury or death in order to force others to submit to their will. ... 'You should be walking around in schools every day in complete tactical equipment, with semi-automatic weapons,' ranted self-styled counter-terrorism 'expert' John Giduck in his keynote address to the 2007 National Association of School Resources Conference. 'You can no longer afford to think of yourselves as peace officers. ... You must think of yourself [sic] as soldiers in a war because we're going to ask you to act like soldiers.' A more honest description would be that SROs are commissioned to act like prison guards with unlimited discretion to discipline misbehaving inmates." (10/30/15)
http://freedominourtime.blogspot.com/2015/10/the-chain-of-command-and-executioner-in.html
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Post by: TheWart on November 10, 2015, 12:01:46 am
Hi all, new here.  I was home schooled from K to 4th and I thought that I ought to give my testimony that home schooled children are really a cut above the rest.

For the first 5 years of my schooling my mother was my only source of education on our rural homestead.  Math, English, Science, History and Spelling fit neatly into the hours between 08:00 and 12:00.  I didn't really realize that I was any different from anyone else until circumstances required me to enter the local public school.  When my entrance exam was graded my mother was told that her 4th grader was among the top 10% of students that ever came through that school's doors.  They even offered to put me directly into 6th grade math.  Since then I have easily excelled in all my classes (excepting P.E.: it seems that splitting wood and playing football do not use the same muscles, and I was accustomed to one and not the other).  I have been a valedictorian twice, once at eighth grade graduation and again at 12th grade graduation, and I am going to a high quality college nearly entirely on scholarships.

I am truly grateful that my mother took the time to educate me.  Homeschooling didn't teach me everything I needed to know, but more importantly it taught me how to learn.  It taught me how to be observant, how to analyze, and how to recognize the baloney that increasingly shows up in today's public education system.
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Post by: MamaLiberty on November 10, 2015, 05:55:01 am
I am truly grateful that my mother took the time to educate me.  Homeschooling didn't teach me everything I needed to know, but more importantly it taught me how to learn.  It taught me how to be observant, how to analyze, and how to recognize the baloney that increasingly shows up in today's public education system.

Blessings to your mother. I'm hoping you've expressed that gratitude to her often. I'm sure she takes great pride in your accomplishments.
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Post by: Moonbeam on December 28, 2015, 02:42:25 pm
I am truly grateful that my mother took the time to educate me.  Homeschooling didn't teach me everything I needed to know, but more importantly it taught me how to learn.  It taught me how to be observant, how to analyze, and how to recognize the baloney that increasingly shows up in today's public education system.

A heartfelt, belated welcome, TheWart!  :hello:

You totally nailed it -thanks for sharing this poignant point. I homeschool and this is my personal goal. I'm sad for all the other teachers who don't grasp this very critical principle. So many moms experience burn-out, often and early enough, because they feel the pressure to "teach it all." It's humanly impossible! You were very blessed by your mother's presence in this capacity so early in your life and it sounds like you truly recognize it, too. :)

I would most welcome your sharing memories and suggestions in regards to your schooling!
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Post by: Moonbeam on February 09, 2016, 11:16:36 am
About a year ago I was doing a rough estimate in my head about schooling costs. I told DH that I thought I could educate all the kids through high school for about $5k. Last month I made a spreadsheet of curriculums I would like/still need to purchase. The total came to $3,100. Now this does not include multiple consumables, lab equipment, copier paper and toner, additional math manipulatives and building up our home library and some other miscellaneous needs. However, it still is amazing to me in the scheme of things, in the long term, and for the return you get on your investment, it's not a large amount. Now if only I could find a benevolent benefactor!  :laugh:
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Post by: MamaLiberty on February 09, 2016, 11:33:43 am
However, it still is amazing to me in the scheme of things, in the long term, and for the return you get on your investment, it's not a large amount. Now if only I could find a benevolent benefactor!  :laugh:

The government "school" manages to go through that much money per student in what, a day or two?

Everyone wants a benevolent benefactor. Usually they just have to look in a mirror. :)
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Post by: Moonbeam on February 18, 2016, 03:02:55 pm
Everyone wants a benevolent benefactor. Usually they just have to look in a mirror. :)

Well, thanks! And I do the best I can. Of course this still takes money. But I am creative! :)
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Post by: PMouserOSU on May 13, 2016, 10:08:53 pm
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Post by: Moonbeam on May 13, 2016, 10:51:44 pm
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Welcome PMouser. Was there something you wished to share but were experiencing difficulties? :)
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Post by: MamaLiberty on May 14, 2016, 06:50:54 am
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It is helpful to be specific about the link you have trouble with.  :)