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Title: Bush Quips He Might Stay in Power
Post by: Basil Fishbone on October 19, 2007, 01:01:20 am
Hmmm.  Basil
   
http://www.legitgov.org/#breaking_news

Bush Quips He Might Stay in Power (Threat Level Plays Along) By Kevin Poulsen

17 Oct 2007 At a press briefing this morning that touched on issues like the
White House's extrajudicial wiretapping program and torture policies, the
president [sic] was asked a question about Vladimir Putin's plan to hold on
to power when his term as Russian president runs out. Reporter: Mr.
President, following up on Vladimir Putin for a moment, he said recently that
next year, when he has to step down according to the constitution, as the
president, he may become prime minister; in effect keeping power and dashing
any hopes for a genuine democratic transition there ... Bush: I've been
planning that myself. ...THREAT LEVEL doesn't believe that he's going to
declare a state of emergency and cancel the 2008 election. But in July, we
filed some FOIA requests anyway. We asked five Justice Department offices for
documents produced or revised after August 2001 "addressing the feasibility,
advisability or lawfulness of deferring, rescheduling or canceling a U.S.
national election." ...
http://blog.wired.com/27bstroke6/2007/10/bush-quip-might.html
Title: Re: Bush Quips He Might Stay in Power
Post by: slidemansailor on October 19, 2007, 10:17:59 am
There are many of us smelling another false flag event in the wind.  Gee Wiz is just dumb enough to be telling the truth based on the script he has to work from ... much as adolescent boys do when playing cute with a secret they can't let out, but are just bursting with while holding it in.

Brings up the image in my mind:

(http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t156/slidemansailor/babyhuey.jpg)
Title: Re: Bush Quips He Might Stay in Power
Post by: Jeffersoniantoo on October 19, 2007, 11:18:19 am
I happened to be watching that particular press conference, and there were just a few giggles of nervous laughter when he made that statement.

Many looked genuinely shocked...

I considered it quite freudian...

8)
Title: Re: Bush Quips He Might Stay in Power
Post by: Elias Alias on October 19, 2007, 11:32:27 am
Keep in mind also that TPTB have not only the option of launching another false-flag "terrorist event", but may justify Continuity of Government, martial-law, and disposal of or suspension of the Constitution - in a time of financial crisis, which any sitting President can declare. And, while there are other now-named conditions under which a President can declare the suspension of the Constitution, the black-ops specialists have set the stage with props of total fear to the point that the public will obediently believe whatever story the government proffers in pointing the blame for the next false-flag on "terrorists". (The next false-flag might now be cast on behalf of Iran, which the war-hawk neo-cons of the Bush Administration are demanding we must control.)

We truly are living in "interesting times", and one of Bush's most famous utterances regarding 9/11/2001 came when he stated that 9/11 was "an interesting day".

Salute!
Elias
Title: Re: Bush Quips He Might Stay in Power
Post by: Junker on October 20, 2007, 03:50:01 pm
And the beat goes on.

In the last few years here, we have been watching the development of
the framework and as well (more or less) noting its historic build-up.

As with an economic crash, the timing of a liberty crash is not predictable.
One can only note it's approach. The characteristics in some form can be
expected; just note the forms in revolutionary France or in the dictatorships
in pre-WWII Europe. The continued growth of it all can be expected
here—the lies, thievery, camps, murder, torture. Forewarned is forearmed
and may all be as prepared as circumstance allows.

The beat goes on...
Title: Re: Bush Quips He Might Stay in Power
Post by: padre29 on October 20, 2007, 07:02:17 pm


I could think of nothng that would kick start a "liberty" mindset among "average" Americans faster then GWB pulling that sort of thing off, and then suspending the Constituition as well?

 :mellow:
Title: Re: Bush Quips He Might Stay in Power
Post by: Roy J. Tellason on October 21, 2007, 01:04:45 am


I could think of nothng that would kick start a "liberty" mindset among "average" Americans faster then GWB pulling that sort of thing off, and then suspending the Constituition as well?

 :mellow:

One can hope so,   but we have way too many sheeple out there who would more likely be inclined to go along with all the crap to just try and get by...    :-(
Title: Re: Bush Quips He Might Stay in Power
Post by: Gypsy on October 21, 2007, 09:27:48 am
I'm a newbie here so maybe I'm missing something. If GWB suspends elections and the Constitution, doesn't that make it a dictatorship? I'm glad I have my cabin almost finished. Looks like the time to bugout is about here

Iacta alea est!
Title: Re: Bush Quips He Might Stay in Power
Post by: 2ndA on October 21, 2007, 09:41:05 am
Yes, that would make it a dictatorship.  Or a Monarchy.  How Draconian it would be is open to debate, and the evidence of time.

Would Shrub do it?  As with Clinton, it bothers me that I can't answer that.  I don't know.  If things were right in the US it would, should, be an easy question to answer.

How would the Average Joe react?  Well, is the TV still working, the "pro sports" still on, the check in the mailbox and the beer cold in the fridge?  Yes?  Then no, he won't do a single thing other than made grouse and complain about how "they" lost America.
Title: Re: Bush Quips He Might Stay in Power
Post by: Midnight Blue on October 21, 2007, 05:11:10 pm


I could think of nothng that would kick start a "liberty" mindset among "average" Americans faster then GWB pulling that sort of thing off, and then suspending the Constituition as well?

 :mellow:

If people collectively have sat on their asses this long through all the other stuff that's taken place over the years in this country, what makes you think they would suddenly wake up now? sure some people will but I don't have faith that the majority or even very many will wake up.
Title: Re: Bush Quips He Might Stay in Power
Post by: padre29 on October 21, 2007, 06:23:04 pm


I could think of nothng that would kick start a "liberty" mindset among "average" Americans faster then GWB pulling that sort of thing off, and then suspending the Constituition as well?

 :mellow:

If people collectively have sat on their asses this long through all the other stuff that's taken place over the years in this country, what makes you think they would suddenly wake up now? sure some people will but I don't have faith that the majority or even very many will wake up.

"..happened so far..."

The last time the Constitution was suspended publicly, Abe Lincoln was in office.

Hmm

And there has not been a Prez who both suspended the Cons (publicly mind you) and then overstayed their time in office.

No matter the Beer or TV, there would be a pretty large reaction to such actions maybe not a majority reaction, but it would be sizable.

Barricades in the street stuff?

Maybe, but certainly not all over the US but enough I think.
Title: Re: Bush Quips He Might Stay in Power
Post by: Elias Alias on October 21, 2007, 10:06:59 pm
Check out this guy's credentials at the end of this article....
~
from here on July 20 2007
http://www.counterpunch.org/roberts07162007.html
~
July 16, 2007
Impeach Now : Or Face the End of Constitutional Democracy

By PAUL CRAIG ROBERTS

Unless Congress immediately impeaches Bush and Cheney, a year from now the US could be a dictatorial police state at war with Iran.

Bush has put in place all the necessary measures for dictatorship in the form of "executive orders" that are triggered whenever Bush declares a national emergency. Recent statements by Homeland Security Chief Michael Chertoff, former Republican senator Rick Santorum and others suggest that Americans might expect a series of staged, or false flag, "terrorist" events in the near future.

Many attentive people believe that the reason the Bush administration will not bow to expert advice and public opinion and begin withdrawing US troops from Iraq is that the administration intends to rescue its unpopular position with false flag operations that can be used to expand the war to Iran.

Too much is going wrong for the Bush administration: the failure of its Middle East wars, Republican senators jumping ship, Turkish troops massed on northern Iraq's border poised for an invasion to deal with Kurds, and a majority of Americans favoring the impeachment of Cheney and a near-majority favoring Bush's impeachment. The Bush administration desperately needs dramatic events to scare the American people and the Congress back in line with the militarist-police state that Bush and Cheney have fostered.

William Norman Grigg recently wrote that the GOP is "praying for a terrorist strike" to save the party from electoral wipeout in 2008.

Chertoff, Cheney, the neocon nazis, and Mossad would have no qualms about saving the bacon for the Republicans, who have enabled Bush to start two unjustified wars, with Iran waiting in the wings to be attacked in a third war.

The Bush administration has tried unsuccessfully to resurrect the terrorist fear factor by infiltrating some blowhard groups and encouraging them to talk about staging "terrorist" events. The talk, encouraged by federal agents, resulted in "terrorist" arrests hyped by the media, but even the captive media was unable to scare people with such transparent sting operations.

If the Bush administration wants to continue its wars in the Middle East and to entrench the "unitary executive" at home, it will have to conduct some false flag operations that will both frighten and anger the American people and make them accept Bush's declaration of "national emergency" and the return of the draft. Alternatively, the administration could simply allow any real terrorist plot to proceed without hindrance.

A series of staged or permitted attacks would be spun by the captive media as a vindication of the neoconsevatives' Islamophobic policy, the intention of which is to destroy all Middle Eastern governments that are not American puppet states. Success would give the US control over oil, but the main purpose is to eliminate any resistance to Israel's complete absorption of Palestine into Greater Israel.

Think about it. If another 9/11-type "security failure" were not in the works, why would Homeland Security czar Chertoff go to the trouble of convincing the Chicago Tribune that Americans have become complacent about terrorist threats and that he has "a gut feeling" that America will soon be hit hard?

Why would Republican warmonger Rick Santorum say on the Hugh Hewitt radio show that "between now and November, a lot of things are going to happen, and I believe that by this time next year, the American public's (sic) going to have a very different view of this war."

Throughout its existence the US government has staged incidents that the government then used in behalf of purposes that it could not otherwise have pursued. According to a number of writers, false flag operations have been routinely used by the Israeli state. During the Czarist era in Russia, the secret police would set off bombs in order to arrest those the secret police regarded as troublesome. Hitler was a dramatic orchestrator of false flag operations. False flag operations are a commonplace tool of governments.

Ask yourself: Would a government that has lied us into two wars and is working to lie us into an attack on Iran shrink from staging "terrorist" attacks in order to remove opposition to its agenda?

Only a diehard minority believes in the honesty and integrity of the Bush-Cheney administration and in the truthfulness of the corporate media.

Hitler, who never achieved majority support in a German election, used the Reichstag fire to fan hysteria and push through the Enabling Act, which made him dictator. Determined tyrants never require majority support in order to overthrow constitutional orders.

The American constitutional system is near to being overthrown. Are coming "terrorist" events of which Chertoff warns and Santorum promises the means for overthrowing our constitutional democracy?

~

Paul Craig Roberts was Assistant Secretary of the Treasury in the Reagan administration. He was Associate Editor of the Wall Street Journal editorial page and Contributing Editor of National Review. He is coauthor of The Tyranny of Good Intentions. He can be reached at: PaulCraigRoberts@yahoo.com



~

Salute!
Elias
Title: Re: Bush Quips He Might Stay in Power
Post by: Elias Alias on October 21, 2007, 10:58:06 pm
I'm sure this is somewhere else on these forums, but since it is "Hope For America", I think I'll just tack it onto this thread as well.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/naomi-wolf/finally-action-ron-pau_b_69042.html?view=print

"Ron Paul Introduces Bill To Defend Constitution"

Salute!
Elias

Title: Re: Bush Quips He Might Stay in Power
Post by: freethinker on October 22, 2007, 01:10:24 am
King George II... Isn't that the one that was in power when the USA had a revolution and left being a British colony? 


As to staying in power:

Putin probably (or replaced by someone just as bad) and Bush doubtfully (and replaced by someone just as bad)


-  freethinker
Title: Re: Bush Quips He Might Stay in Power
Post by: Gypsy on October 22, 2007, 01:03:56 pm
This Roberts guy is right on the mark. If people would look at the whole picture they would see what "King George" is doing.

God help us all.
Title: Re: Bush Quips He Might Stay in Power
Post by: Junker on October 22, 2007, 06:14:03 pm
Good quotin' there, Elias.

Salute
Title: Re: Bush Quips He Might Stay in Power
Post by: MTB on October 22, 2007, 10:59:55 pm
King George II... Isn't that the one that was in power when the USA had a revolution and left being a British colony? 

It was George III that was king in England in 1776.
There were 13 British colonies in America then.
The U. S. A. did not exist until the ratification of the Constitution at least, and some hold that the Constitution was not valid until the ratification of the Bill of Rights.

The Bill of Rights was necessary to the Constitution because of the contract between the Federalists and the Anti-Federalists to ratify the basic Constitution in the first place. In short:
"If no Bill of Rights, then no Constitution."

And, just by coincidence George Walker Bush is the third president of the United States named "George". Making him our own, our very own, "George III". How about that?

Quote
As to staying in power:

Putin probably (or replaced by someone just as bad) and Bush doubtfully (and replaced by someone just as bad)


-  freethinker

I couden'a said it better my own self.


Speaker
Title: Re: Bush Quips He Might Stay in Power
Post by: Vali on October 23, 2007, 11:48:42 pm
King George II... Isn't that the one that was in power when the USA had a revolution and left being a British colony? 


As to staying in power:

Putin probably (or replaced by someone just as bad) and Bush doubtfully (and replaced by someone just as bad)


-  freethinker
  Yes.  So next time some scoffer makes a dumb remark about not wanting to back to the Constitution, we can respond with, "Go Back?  We have already gone back to King George, following the Constitution now would be a step forward! What a Revolutionary concept!!

A Friend once greeted me with a sarcastic, "Heil, Bush!" Was that freudian, too, or just prophetic?  Hmmm. 
Title: Re: Bush Quips He Might Stay in Power
Post by: Shrike on October 25, 2007, 12:12:05 am
Check out this guy's credentials at the end of this article....
~
from here on July 20 2007
http://www.counterpunch.org/roberts07162007.html
~
July 16, 2007
Impeach Now : Or Face the End of Constitutional Democracy

By PAUL CRAIG ROBERTS



~

Salute!
Elias

Elias,
Great article. I've been reading Roberts' commentary for over a year now and I tend to trust his judgment.
That Bush has both the power and the audacity to punk us like that is increasingly difficult to refute, however
I think the likelihood of it happening is pretty slim. Nothing, though - and I mean absolutely nothing - would
surprise me anymore. Who knows what kind of shit storm is brewing for us. We face so many likely scenarios
now.

Buy as much guns, gold, ammo and food as you can afford, support Ron Paul and pray to God that the human
race gets its act together, before we let the power elite exterminate us all.

Shrike
Title: Re: Bush Quips He Might Stay in Power
Post by: freethinker on October 25, 2007, 12:58:31 am
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It was George III that was king in England in 1776.
There were 13 British colonies in America then.
The U. S. A. did not exist until the ratification of the Constitution at least, and some hold that the Constitution was not valid until the ratification of the Bill of Rights.

The Bill of Rights was necessary to the Constitution because of the contract between the Federalists and the Anti-Federalists to ratify the basic Constitution in the first place. In short:
"If no Bill of Rights, then no Constitution."

And, just by coincidence George Walker Bush is the third president of the United States named "George". Making him our own, our very own, "George III". How about that?


I see.  My United States history is a bit fuzzy.  The next in line coincidence then. ;)

There's too many Georges in the world...  I like my name.  It's unique.  The chances of me meeting another person with my name is way less than 1%.  Of course, I did change the name I go by, but my 'legal' one's not too common either.  :wub:


-  freethinker
Title: Re: Bush Quips He Might Stay in Power
Post by: Gypsy on October 25, 2007, 01:19:43 pm
Buy as much guns, gold, ammo and food as you can afford, support Ron Paul and pray to God that the human
race gets its act together, before we let the power elite exterminate us all.


AMEN Brother
Title: Re: Bush Quips He Might Stay in Power
Post by: freethinker on October 25, 2007, 02:19:29 pm
Yeah...for me that'd be practice my martial art (I'll learn knife defense, attacks, and various useful weapons easily applied to common objects) and learn others, keep up to date on current events, learn how to shoot, and save money for the stuff and things I want to do in my life after moving out.  I know, the stuff my parents won't let me get.  Not that I've brought it up, but I've known them all my life and have gathered my conclusions thus forth.

I might be Canadian but don't think for a second that we're free of the corruption in the US.  Canada is the US's "little brother."  A lot of the shit happened down south affects us almost the same.

Besides, Country borders or artficial.  People are people. :)


-  freethinker
Title: Re: Bush Quips He Might Stay in Power
Post by: canaan on November 18, 2007, 10:33:29 am
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I see.  My United States history is a bit fuzzy.  The next in line coincidence then. ;)

There's too many Georges in the world...  I like my name.  It's unique.  The chances of me meeting another person with my name is way less than 1%.  Of course, I did change the name I go by, but my 'legal' one's not too common either.  :wub:


-  freethinker


I don't know that your understanding of US history is fuzzy, or that US History IS fuzzy.  We certainly never seem to learn from it, doing everything we can to muddy up the true meaning under a cloak of political correctness.

For example, this Thursday is 'Thanksgiving' (in the US) It is a false holiday, for though the native peoples were glad when dinner was over, and more than one 'squaw' was overheard saying  "I thought they'd NEVER leave."  The dinner guests never did leave. The rest is history.


Moral, be careful who you invite for dinner and don't let them get too comfortable.


The same is true for those occupying the White House (much like we're occupying Iraq)

Title: Re: Bush Quips He Might Stay in Power
Post by: freethinker on November 18, 2007, 10:55:39 am
Canadian Thanksgiving is based on this historical thing about a prince or somebody being desperately sick (back when it was part of the British Empire) and recovered.  So there was a celebration.  And well, people like celebration, so it stuck around. :)  My family spends it out in the sticks with family friends taking walks through the woods and cooking burgers (and veggie burgers) over a fire, and eating them and veggies, chips and lotsa pumpkin pie

Ours is earlier, and the weather is better, so it usually works out alright.  Still cold in the evening after dark, but we don't mind.

I only learned a few basic things about US history in Grade 9, then 10 to 12 it was mostly European.  Which I find much more interesting, despite there being too many damn popes, often with the same name...  :rolleyes:

Of course, I pick up a little out os school. ;) Though my ability to spell has definately gotten worse since graduation.  It's not bad when I have a spell-checker, but at work I don't have the luxary.  :laugh:


-  freethinker
Title: Re: Bush Quips He Might Stay in Power
Post by: FDD on December 30, 2016, 09:09:02 am
Didn't Obummer say he could have won a third term if he had ran?

Title: Re: Bush Quips He Might Stay in Power
Post by: heyoka on December 31, 2016, 09:34:55 am
instigate a "Police Action" with Russia, short of a nuclear exchange...................or not
declare martial law
bada bing bada boom
FDR had a turd third term, so no precedent there.
They'll have to weasel word their way around the 22nd  Amendment, but been there and done that with the entire Bill of Rights, so no problemo.
(https://westernrifleshooters.files.wordpress.com/2016/12/c07wohcusaaudwv.jpg?w=500&h=497)
 
Title: Re: Bush Quips He Might Stay in Power
Post by: DiabloLoco on December 31, 2016, 04:46:14 pm
Question:

What did the Russia do to
influence the election?


Answer:

They used an antiquated
malware from Ukraine on
a power station in Vermont.



Wait........WHAT?!? :laugh:

Is that REALLY how they are trying to spin this?
You gotta be kidding me! :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Bush Quips He Might Stay in Power
Post by: FDD on December 31, 2016, 07:40:09 pm
Hey Bro, you are not to think about this to deeply.
it was made for the sheep, not us
Title: Re: Bush Quips He Might Stay in Power
Post by: heyoka on January 01, 2017, 11:45:15 am
Question:

What did the Russia do to
influence the election?


Answer:

They used an antiquated
malware from Ukraine on
a power station in Vermont.



Wait........WHAT?!? :laugh:

Is that REALLY how they are trying to spin this?
You gotta be kidding me! :rolleyes:
Anything to divert attention from Hitlary's et. al. dirty deeds that were in the E-mails, up to and including an un-holy alliance between libtards and fetid necrotic neo-cons rekindling the cold war.
(https://westernrifleshooters.files.wordpress.com/2016/12/everyone-i-dont-like-is-a-russian.jpg?w=500&h=615)
Title: Re: Bush Quips He Might Stay in Power
Post by: DiabloLoco on January 01, 2017, 11:55:11 am

Anything to divert attention from Hitlary's et. al. dirty deeds that were in the E-mails, up to and including an un-holy alliance between libtards and fetid necrotic neo-cons rekindling the cold war.

I'm not going to post a description. I want you to be surprised. :threvil:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s6vw2LvsTWk