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Re: You mean we are gulchers?
« Reply #135 on: April 07, 2007, 07:55:07 PM »

Gulching is dropping out of the mainstream job-and-mortgage lifestyle and living (generally in a rural area) as self-sufficiently as possible with like-minded neighbors. It's a way to get as far removed from government regulation and interference as possible.

Hmmm - my wife and I have been doing that for years - didn't know our lifestyle had a name other than being frugal.  We've never owed a cent to anyone, own a couple of hundred acres of land, no mortgage, no car loans, etc.   My wife helps run a living-history museum that has a water-powered grist and saw mill.  Also does ice-cutting in the winter and teaches wood-cooking.  She makes much of her own clothes.   I've worked, or been self-employed for the past 30 years as an electriician, gunsmith, diesel mechanic, house builder, etc.  Never paid to have anything done - other than to a doctor or dentist.  My first four children went to public school and are now grown with their own children.  But, we have a "new" 3 year old, and he's going to be home schooled.
 Our home, built 1820 has a drilled solar powered water well, also a dug well with a hand-pump inside the house, and also a mountain spring piped in.  We have wood heat and also wood and solar hot-water.  We have a Rumford wood-cooking fireplace and also a wood-fired bake oven.  Kitchen also has three cook stoves, one LP gas, one oil, and one wood.  Most of our electricity comes from a 5400 watt solar electric system - grid-tied at the moment.
 We've got two diesel Volkwagen Jettas and six diesel trucks - all relatively old - 1982 - oldest and 1994 the newest.  All old enough so they are easy to work on, but new enough that they are all just as useful, if not more, as any new truck and parts for the older trucks are MUCH cheaper.  The 91 Jettas can get 50 MPG on the highway - that's pretty good for any car.
We live in a rural farming area of central New York in Otsego Co. but also have a cabin in the Adirondack Mountains in Hamilton Co. and also some wild forest land up near Lake Ontario in Jefferson Co. All our land was bought cheaply over the years and all bought with cash.
From your description of "Gulching", seems we are missing one part of the equation.  We are NOT part of any group of people with like minds.  Thirty years ago, things were a bit different.  Many farmers that I worked with were very self-sufficient.  But, farming is dying and the population is changing.  We are, more-or-less regarded as "weirdos" by many newer residents.
 Lately, we've has some Amish farmers move into our area, and I envy their sense of community and lifestye.
My wife and I would like to be part of a like-minded group somewhere, but I'm not sure such a thing really exists and works (other then the Amiish and Menoites).
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Re: You mean we are gulchers?
« Reply #136 on: April 07, 2007, 11:41:46 PM »

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 Thirty years ago, things were a bit different.  Many farmers that I worked with were very self-sufficient.  But, farming is dying and the population is changing.  We are, more-or-less regarded as "weirdos" by many newer residents.
 
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jdemaris - I grew up in South Carolina - both sets of grandparents led the lifestyle you describe - they just called it subsistence farming.  They grew most of there food, traded, and used there cash crops to buy what they needed.  It was a hard life but I think rewarding for them.  I just count my blessings that I got to spend many summers working with them. 

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Re: Gulching / Definition on Gulching ??? (MERGED)
« Reply #137 on: August 23, 2007, 06:23:07 PM »

Notes on the Dialect of the People of Newfoundland
George Patterson
The Journal of American Folklore, Vol. 8, No. 28 (Jan. - Mar., 1895), pp. 27-40

[Gulch] has come, on the Labrador coast, to have a meaning peculiar to that region and to those who frequent it.  In summer, men, women, and children from Newfoundland spend some weeks there at the fishing, living in a very promiscuous way.  As there is no tree for shelter for hundreds of miles of islands and shores, parties resort to the hollows for secret indulgence.  Hence, gulching has, among them, become a synonym for living a wanton life.
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Re: Gulching / Definition on Gulching ??? (MERGED)
« Reply #138 on: August 27, 2007, 08:59:18 AM »

 :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil:

 :sex: :sunny:

Now I've got a whole new wave of inspiration to get our gulch goin' ASAP...  :laugh:
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Re: Gulching / Definition on Gulching ??? (MERGED)
« Reply #139 on: September 23, 2007, 01:42:44 AM »

I'm new in this arena.  After reading through these posts I've finally figured out what Gulching means.  I've never heard the term b4.  I've been visiting emergency/disaster preparedness sites the last few years and recently fell in love with the show Jericho and found survivalblog.com.  I've been looking for some like-minded souls to chat with about what's in these forums.  Thanks.
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Re: Gulching / Definition on Gulching ??? (MERGED)
« Reply #140 on: September 23, 2007, 07:49:14 AM »

Gypsymom,You've come to the right place,thems folks here can answer any(just about)question you have to ask.The nice thing about the people here is there not snotty/superior or the like.Ask away,they give honest answers to any/all questions.I joined at a Senior Members request and don't regret it a bit. Ought 7.
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Re: Gulching / Definition on Gulching ??? (MERGED)
« Reply #141 on: September 23, 2007, 01:28:07 PM »


Welcome gypsymom

Gypsymom,You've come to the right place,thems folks here can answer any(just about)question you have to ask.The nice thing about the people here is there not snotty/superior or the like.Ask away,they give honest answers to any/all questions.I joined at a Senior Members request and don't regret it a bit. Ought 7.

AND to add icing to the cake a large percentage are already actively "gulching".
Some of us {he "makes a leg" [bows formally] } are still getting the pieces in a pile but there are gen-yoo-wine first hand gulchers here to ask questions of and as kirgi07 has said most don't mind being helpful.

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Re: Gulching / Definition on Gulching ??? (MERGED)
« Reply #142 on: January 27, 2008, 11:59:40 PM »

Atlas Shrugged, 1957, Ayn Rand -- "The most subversive political implication of 'Atlas Shrugged', is that individual freedom is possible only to those who are strong enough, psychologically and morally, to withdraw their sanction from any system that coercively thrives off their productive energies." (Sciabarra -- "The Russian Radical", pp. 301-302) Say no more.
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Re: Gulching / Definition on Gulching ??? (MERGED)
« Reply #143 on: April 30, 2008, 02:09:19 PM »

Rothbard's interesting perspective on gulching.

I was going to excerpt a portion here, but couldn't do it justice. Just go read the article, if you please.
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Re: Gulching / Definition on Gulching ??? (MERGED)
« Reply #144 on: June 03, 2008, 05:33:23 PM »

Rothbard's interesting perspective on gulching.

I was going to excerpt a portion here, but couldn't do it justice. Just go read the article, if you please.
Interesting read.  It appears to have been written in 1993.  One thing that has changed significantly since that was written is the overwhelming growth of the Internet.  One can now withdraw to a gulch community, while still actively communicating with the rest of the world via the internet.  And, of course, there's no reason a gulcher can't leave their gulch IRL to participate in activist activities.  And of course, a gulcher still VOTES.

So, I would answer Rothbard that one can be both a rolemodel of libertarian values living in a gulch community and still be politically engaged in the fight to liberate the masses from their statist taskmasters.
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Re: Gulching
« Reply #145 on: June 22, 2008, 11:39:54 PM »

Nurseflo:  Here are a few of the abbreviations used around here:

SHTF:  shit hits the fan (also called "the fecal matter impacting the rotating airfoil", which is handy if you have young children whom you don't want repeating things!)

JBTs:  jack-booted thugs--law enforcement, government agents

LEOs:  law enforcement officers

There are more abbreviations used; maybe we should start a thread for newbies on such things, perhaps making it a sticky thread so it'll stay up toward the top.

Bear's post is unfortunately correct--most of us are in a place where there's not much interest in freedom/liberty or self-sufficient living.  For now we're stuck with each other!

Bear:  I'd love to start bartering with folks, and would check out such a section on the board frequently.  Who do we contact to git 'er done?

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Gee, I thought LEO meant low earth orbit (satellite).
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Re: Gulching / Definition on Gulching ??? (MERGED)
« Reply #146 on: June 23, 2008, 09:42:28 AM »

Well I guess dh and I are "gulchers" or whatever, just hate frigin labels of any kind.  If you label a lifestyle, an occupation etc. there are stereotypes that are attached no matter how untrue or true.

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« Reply #147 on: June 23, 2008, 07:46:48 PM »

Nurseflo:  Here are a few of the abbreviations used around here:

SHTF:  shit hits the fan (also called "the fecal matter impacting the rotating airfoil", which is handy if you have young children whom you don't want repeating things!)

JBTs:  jack-booted thugs--law enforcement, government agents

LEOs:  law enforcement officers

There are more abbreviations used; maybe we should start a thread for newbies on such things, perhaps making it a sticky thread so it'll stay up toward the top.

Bear's post is unfortunately correct--most of us are in a place where there's not much interest in freedom/liberty or self-sufficient living.  For now we're stuck with each other!

Bear:  I'd love to start bartering with folks, and would check out such a section on the board frequently.  Who do we contact to git 'er done?

PL

 

Gee, I thought LEO meant low earth orbit (satellite).

Those sneaky acronyms will change their spots depending on the words they hide amongst.
They're as bad a chameleons for that changing spots business.
Ya gotta keep an eye on 'em all the time.

Speaking of definitions .... search "aggronant bastidge" on the TMM search box. [without the quotes]
Something to aspire to ....
Humorous reading to be had there.
There is much humor here abouts actually. I begin to wonder where the idea that we here are all pessimistic nihilists came from ?
Not that Nihilism is completely wrong in my estimation ....

I wouldn't mind seeing the political system [any political system] removed.
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Re: Gulching / Definition on Gulching ??? (MERGED)
« Reply #148 on: June 24, 2008, 11:03:22 PM »

OK, we pretty much agree that gulching will help solve a lot of our impending government problems.  But how, and where, do we find the people and places to gulch?  Whenever the topic of governmental intrusion comes up among most of the people I know there is either apathy or the eyeroll.  How and where do I find those who have a serious interest (people really willing to change their lives to accomplish this lifestyle?)
Any help is appreciated.  I feel alone out here!!



 

Sometimes it's better to be able to be alone out there, rather than feeling alone out here.
Most people don't get active about anything until their ox is gored, poking the ox might get a response without drawing blood.
Seems to me that you have figured out the how and where, just keep up the dialogue.
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Re: Gulching / Definition on Gulching ??? (MERGED)
« Reply #149 on: May 18, 2009, 09:33:16 AM »

In my experience, once you start yourself, people just come out of the woodwork. Gulching in their own styles.

Even people who cannot get out of the city are "gulching" here. Proud to know one group of groups in Detroit that work together and use resources like I never would have thought of. Necessity is the mother of invention (when you want something badly enough).

Actually, they make what we're doing out here in the sticks look easy. Soil in the city is contaminated, and there are many other factors these people have to fight against. They're some of the best and strongest people I've met in a long long time. They were gulching before they knew what the term even meant. Some of them still don't know the term for that matter. lol

You have to be a member of the site to view the video here, sorry......but it's worth it just for some of the ideas these people have to offer. :)

http://indiedibles.com/video/stimulus/the_spirit_of_hope

Sorry dial up people. If I can find some writ I will. They're working on it. :)

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