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A Letter from Jail
« on: January 19, 2011, 09:13:39 AM »

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MamaLiberty

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Re: A Letter from Jail
« Reply #1 on: January 19, 2011, 12:29:50 PM »

MLK was a statist, socialist and probably a communist. No friend of liberty, that's for sure. No thanks.
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But, in the end, I live and therefore I am. I don't need any other person's permission to live or defend myself. I don't need anyone's vetting of my intentions or sanity, nor approval for the self defense tool I choose or how I carry it.

I don't NEED to explain myself. I don't NEED any reasons at all.

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Re: A Letter from Jail
« Reply #2 on: January 19, 2011, 12:39:54 PM »

By the end of his life, Mama, Thomas Paine was a socialist defending the French Revolution.  None of that, however, wipes out the fact that his "Common Sense" was the single most important propaganda spark of the American Revolution.

You should read MLK's "Letter".  Whether or not he was always consistent at living up to them, there are very important principles in it, and I dare say that they are even a bit more important just because he wrote them.
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Re: A Letter from Jail
« Reply #3 on: January 19, 2011, 06:52:00 PM »

John Locke might have had a wee bit of influence
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Re: A Letter from Jail
« Reply #4 on: January 20, 2011, 06:24:04 AM »

By the end of his life, Mama, Thomas Paine was a socialist defending the French Revolution.  None of that, however, wipes out the fact that his "Common Sense" was the single most important propaganda spark of the American Revolution.

You should read MLK's "Letter".  Whether or not he was always consistent at living up to them, there are very important principles in it, and I dare say that they are even a bit more important just because he wrote them.

Even a stopped clock is right twice a day. Doesn't mean I want to spend time watching it to catch those two times. I've read quite a bit of both Paine and MLK. I think I'm bright enough to know that they might have said things that were significant, but context is important - at least to me.  A rapist could spout all the fine principles he wanted, but that wouldn't change who he actually was.

The really important principles have been spelled out many, many times by a great many writers both present and past. I simply see no value in reading anything from MLK. Just my preference, of course.
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But, in the end, I live and therefore I am. I don't need any other person's permission to live or defend myself. I don't need anyone's vetting of my intentions or sanity, nor approval for the self defense tool I choose or how I carry it.

I don't NEED to explain myself. I don't NEED any reasons at all.

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Re: A Letter from Jail
« Reply #5 on: May 13, 2011, 07:09:38 AM »

Well Mama, don't get me wrong, but I've read an awful lot of the books the enemies have written.
I used to get the darn things at "The Dollar Store" for $1 apiece, and I think it's WELL worth a dollar to  get a look inside their head.
In  my own corrupt way though............it was kkind oif a social statement too...........because I SURE wouldn't have paid the $16-$25 for that tripe...........but hell, for a buck I can use the things to start campfires and consider that I broke even.

One  thing that really blew me away was a peak inside Patrick Buchanen's head...............almost thought he was a decent guy before I got to peak inside his head
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Even some cowboy and indian outlaws in the 1800's eventually stopped sleeping under buffalo skins, and came to town to entertain paying customers. For some I imagine the bruising of their ego never healed.

We all have some scar tissue that never lets us completely forget the intent of the adventure.

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Re: A Letter from Jail
« Reply #6 on: May 13, 2011, 07:13:51 AM »

Well Mama, don't get me wrong, but I've read an awful lot of the books the enemies have written.
I used to get the darn things at "The Dollar Store" for $1 apiece, and I think it's WELL worth a dollar to  get a look inside their head.
In  my own corrupt way though............it was kkind oif a social statement too...........because I SURE wouldn't have paid the $16-$25 for that tripe...........but hell, for a buck I can use the things to start campfires and consider that I broke even.

One  thing that really blew me away was a peak inside Patrick Buchanen's head...............almost thought he was a decent guy before I got to peak inside his head

Don't get me wrong... I've read and studied plenty of these things. I just don't intend to spend much time on it, nor use them as examples of good thinking. YMMV
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But, in the end, I live and therefore I am. I don't need any other person's permission to live or defend myself. I don't need anyone's vetting of my intentions or sanity, nor approval for the self defense tool I choose or how I carry it.

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Re: A Letter from Jail
« Reply #7 on: May 13, 2011, 07:17:43 AM »

*grins*...........by NO means are they examples of good thinking.............but it's still valuable to get a peak inside their head to try to figure out the "why's" behind the "what's"
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Even some cowboy and indian outlaws in the 1800's eventually stopped sleeping under buffalo skins, and came to town to entertain paying customers. For some I imagine the bruising of their ego never healed.

We all have some scar tissue that never lets us completely forget the intent of the adventure.

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Re: A Letter from Jail
« Reply #8 on: May 13, 2011, 07:40:59 AM »

*grins*...........by NO means are they examples of good thinking.............but it's still valuable to get a peak inside their head to try to figure out the "why's" behind the "what's"

Doesn't take long to figure out that a rattlesnake is poison... or how to tell rattlers from snakes that are not. :)
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But, in the end, I live and therefore I am. I don't need any other person's permission to live or defend myself. I don't need anyone's vetting of my intentions or sanity, nor approval for the self defense tool I choose or how I carry it.

I don't NEED to explain myself. I don't NEED any reasons at all.

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Re: A Letter from Jail
« Reply #9 on: October 03, 2011, 01:37:17 AM »

I absolutely agree with mamaliberty. sorry late post.

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Re: A Letter from Jail
« Reply #10 on: October 03, 2011, 03:03:22 AM »

*grins*...........by NO means are they examples of good thinking.............but it's still valuable to get a peak inside their head to try to figure out the "why's" behind the "what's"

I used to think that if I could get inside their heads, I might learn something useful.   I once was fairly close to a psychopath, a big city policeman who  was very high in the department. He would certainly be higher now. And he will be an army reserve general., if he isn't already.  I studied him for years but finally as I became more certain the overwhelming sensation when I was near this person was akin to being in the same room with a king cobra. It got to the point where the fascination was overcome by the revulsion.
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Re: A Letter from Jail
« Reply #11 on: October 17, 2011, 06:05:06 PM »

That -is- the sensation, isn't it? And that's just from a fairly everyday example.

Imagine being sat in a room with Robespierre, or Beria, or Heydrich.

Makes my skin crawl just thinking about it.
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Re: A Letter from Jail
« Reply #12 on: November 02, 2011, 09:52:55 PM »

Well, for example, you can read Mein Kampf, (and if you haven't, you should try to sit through it) and sit in total amazement that a nobody / total loser turned politician (don't they all?) gets convicted of treason/sedition, is standing to get deported, and WRITES HIS FREAKING MASTER PLAN IN THE VERY SAME JAIL AND PUBLISHES IT!!!  WTF, over?

Looking at it that way, and the fact that Hitler was most likely at least part Jewish (the much discussed "mother was a maid in the house of Rothschild" connection), it might put it into perspective that he was simply a classic politician.  He was a miserable doer of everything else, but when it came to adopting the principles of his party, and becoming the standard german authoritarian ruler, he did a bang up job.  Well, technically even that's only half accurate, he technically snagged defeat from the jaws of history (or is that victory?), so we can't assume he was as ruthless and badass, nor as goofy as some portray the guy.  He was simply a slimy, oily politician who managed to slime his way to power and stay there long enough to get a whole shitload of people killed.  Interestingly his work just so happened to provide the context that those "enemies" of his from the West and East just needed to enter into a war and tighten up their own collectivist rulerships at home.  FDR sure needed the help, and so did Stalin.  Hitler magically provided them with unifying catalysts to use in getting the masses behind their collectivist designs.

That said, lets not go and deride the Germans for being natural born authoritarians, a lot of the more modern geeky types have given us a lot of the freedom enhancing ideas and technologies that combat the very scum-thuggery which states and statists such as the Nazis seem to worship.  From Germany comes that fantastic Chaos Computer Club (CCC) to whose members and publishers we owe quite a bit of the freedom technology we have today.
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Re: A Letter from Jail
« Reply #13 on: November 03, 2011, 01:00:12 PM »

One  thing that really blew me away was a peak inside Patrick Buchanen's head...............almost thought he was a decent guy before I got to peak inside his head

 
 
  You did wash with betadine afterward I would hope. And how did you get your
shoes clean or did you just throw them away because the ooze would not
scrape off.
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