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[Mountain Prepper]

The major lesson of the history of the [objectivist] movement to libertarians is that It Can Happen Here, that libertarians, despite explicit devotion to reason and individuality, are not exempt from the mystical and totalitarian cultism that pervades other ideological as well as religious movements. Hopefully, libertarians, once bitten by the virus, may now prove immune. - Rothbard

Where do you all stand on this and other splits in ideology?

One I have seen even here is my rejection of Rand’s outdated view of “altruism� particularly in light of modern genetic and biological evidence.

[Mountain Prepper]

Rand on libertarians:

"They are not defenders of capitalism... I've read nothing by a Libertarian (when I read them, in the early years) that wasn't my ideas badly mishandled—i.e., had the teeth pulled out of them—with no credit given."

Funny, what I would expect from a narcissist, one who was unable to (or more likely unwilling to) point out where her own influences originated from. (like Isabel Paterson)

[ZooT_aLLures]

Well, from my experiences I've determined that "homo sapien" and "human being" are not mutually inclusive, and that while all human beings are homo sapiens not all homo sapiens are human beings.

[Mountain Prepper]

Well, from my experiences I've determined that "homo sapien" and "human being" are not mutually inclusive, and that while all human beings are homo sapiens not all homo sapiens are human beings.

So is that to say that only objectivists or libertarians or some others are humans... 

[ZooT_aLLures]

So is that to say that only objectivists or libertarians or some others are humans... 

No, it's not to say that in any way shape or form........what you chose to call yourself has nothing to do with it...............those are just words...........your actions determine what you are

[Mountain Prepper]

So is that to say that only objectivists or libertarians or some others are humans... 

No, it's not to say that in any way shape or form........what you chose to call yourself has nothing to do with it...............those are just words...........your actions determine what you are

So Rand was a cult leader, and a narcissistic, racist, delusional?

What if we throw the liar and disinformation expert Noam Chomsky into the mix?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YIpJQEcXP7A

[socalserf]

So is that to say that only objectivists or libertarians or some others are humans... 

No, it's not to say that in any way shape or form........what you chose to call yourself has nothing to do with it...............those are just words...........your actions determine what you are

So Rand was a cult leader, and a narcissistic, racist, delusional?Yes! But, she also had a negative side.

What if we throw the liar and disinformation expert Noam Chomsky into the mix?I'll take a pass on Chumpski.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YIpJQEcXP7A

[0point]

The major lesson of the history of the [objectivist] movement to libertarians is that It Can Happen Here, that libertarians, despite explicit devotion to reason and individuality, are not exempt from the mystical and totalitarian cultism that pervades other ideological as well as religious movements. Hopefully, libertarians, once bitten by the virus, may now prove immune. - Rothbard

Where do you all stand on this and other splits in ideology?

One I have seen even here is my rejection of Rand’s outdated view of “altruism� particularly in light of modern genetic and biological evidence.

I will be forever grateful to Ayn Rand, her writings were a huge push to get me started down my path 10+ years ago.  However, I soon realized she didn't follow her own advice:  "Contradictions do not exist. Whenever you think that you are facing a contradiction, check your premises. You will find that one of them is wrong."

Yet for whatever reason she couldn't follow her own arguments to their logical conclusion, which is that government is evil and immoral by its definition, by its very existence.

Perhaps she was so busy picking the specks of sawdust out of her followers' eyes, she couldn't see the plank in her own eye.

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