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[Hunter]

I was thinking about it whilst driving along listening to talk radio froth about the thieves in the night voting to steal even more liberties. Already fired off a hastily written article to MamaLiberty about it, in fact, but here's my question. Wait, no, let's set the stage first.

The left wing of the Demopublicans is gleefully doing their best Godzilla imitation vis a vis freedom at the moment, made all too easy because they have a 60 vote majority in the Senate. Somebody or other was running down the senate seats actually up for re-election in the midterms, and bemoaning the fact that it will be an uphill fight for the right wing of the Republicrat party to regain control of the Senate. Like that would really help, but stay with me a moment just for the giggles... have I ever let you down? Right.. don't answer that... ANYWAY...

I got to thinking about Ernie Hancock and his merry band down in Arizona and their fairly serious recall effort against John McCain back in 2001 I think it was. And the *successful* recall of Gray Davis which brought Ah-nold to power. Yeah, ok, maybe not the best point to make my case, considering how HE turned out, not that his leanings should be any big surprise. All of this put me in mind of a lot of facts which I submit to a candid world, or at least the Mental Militia.

From what I can tell, people out there are angry and frustrated right now, and looking for an outlet. Consider this, if you will. Recalls are tough to do, but not impossible. Even ONE successful recall would shake the whole political class up pretty thoroughly. And, of course, people who don't live in a particular state can't directly help anyway, so running parallel efforts in as many as 50 states at once is, while probably not going to happen, a delicious thought and the very notion is liable to cause apoplexy among politicos. Should lightning strike, you could defang the Demopublicans a bit. Whether you succeed or not, it would help keep a lot of people excited and interested for the crucial months between now and the beginning of the campaign season. Or the beginning of sterner measures, should your preference run that way. (shrug)

Rumble I'm hearing out of DC is that the Obama plan is to dispense lots of bread and circuses between now and those elections in hopes of calming the angry masses. I doubt it will work anyway, to be honest, I think they are vastly underestimating the calibre of the opposition. I'm fully expecting the pitchforks and torches to start coming out for real over the next few months. What better atmosphere to remind people that, hey, you don't necessarily HAVE to wait until an election - or even care to participate in one - to affect the political procress. But I'm old and tired enough and have more than a little inkling how massive an undertaking a recall effort is to duplicate any ongoing efforts. So step A is to ask around. The thought keeps sticking in my mind how well something like that could potentially work in my neck of the woods, but I am not sure I like the corollary...

[MamaLiberty]

I think L. Neil wrote something about this recently, but I can't remember. Personally, I'm afraid the only recall that will be effective is short rope and tall trees...

[iloilo]

There is a recall petition - sorry, don't have a link right now - floating around in Montana for dumping Max.
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[MamaLiberty]

Stole this from comments at an Examiner column:

"Petition to Potentially Recall U.S. Senator Max Baucus, (D) Montana"

go to PetitionOnline.com
Hoping to get 10,000 signatures, and will proceed from there. He won't resign and we can't wait! MT Voters should use the MT recall provision NOW!

[iloilo]

Here is the linky to the petition:
http://www.petitiononline.com/fltp001/petition.html
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[DiogeneswithSKS]

I'm of like mind to MamaLiberty.   Short ropes and tall trees.  Some assembly required.

I don't like that we have come to this but it was foretold by several of our Founders that this day would come.   If you look in history the pattern never really changes, only the players and places.  Timelines are pretty much inconsequential too.  As soon as the Government figures out it can bribe us with our own money(Pres Bush did this in 2008 at the beginning of the year) its all down hill.   Since then the Bribes to us have been pretty insignificant, but the damage has been done.



Keep your powder dry.

[Hunter]

(shrug) I reckon if that's what ya want to do, you're a big boy enough to find your own rope and tree. Feralfae, thanks for the info and the link. I need to do some more checking up in my neck of the woods. If a recall could be got rolling in time for the town meetings in March, things could get mighty interesting indeed for our not-so-esteemed Senator Shaheen and her evil cohorts in DC. Not much point in lynching her, it's gonna require garlic, mirrors, and a wooden stake to end her career from what I can tell. 'Sides, I figure people are pissed off enough to sign a petition, but probably not enough to get serious and corner the squirrelly varmint.

[RagnarDanneskjold]

I don't know if it's the New Year's sample of Glenmorangie talking. If I had money, I would fund a foundation to figure out what each and every one of them had done to warrant recall, since at minimum every one of them violates their oath of office, but details would be required, and keep the system bottled up with petitions for recall. As well, in jurisdictions which allow referenda, the foundation would challenge every law through referendum. As soon as one was passed it would be challenged. That's the only way I can think of to truly use the system against itself. Voting is impotent. That is, if you want to play with them at all. But, they really do have the upper hand. You are playing along no matter which set of their rules you attempt to use. Ahhhhh, I'm just ramblin'.
I'm a ramblin' guy.
Back to the scotch.

Speaking of scotch, I'm watching a movie called Your Past is Showing. It's hilarious. Peter Sellers was playing a scot as I wrote that bit about the scotch. Terry Thomas. I can't think of all the names, but a pretty good cast. There is a columnist for one of those checkout stand rag sheets over in England who is blackmailing many people by not writing about dirt he has on them. Independently, they decide the only solution is to kill him.
I guess that's 2 digressions I have to somehow exit smoothly from simultaneo...

[Hunter]

Sorry, been thoroughly distracted lately by another go-around with my idiot managers, so I've not had time to follow up on this at all. Glad to hear somebody else is pushing the same idea anyway.