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[Fjolnirsson]

You mean like maybe here ferinstance?

No, I don't mean there. That page does not contain the information posted shortly after the raid, which is what I was referring to.

[Roy J. Tellason]

You mean like maybe here ferinstance?

No, I don't mean there. That page does not contain the information posted shortly after the raid, which is what I was referring to.

I wasn't sure what you were referring to, exactly.

You missed my point entirely,  which was that there are a whole pile of different versions of the page available through the wayback machine...

Just pick the one you want and point to it.

[MamaLiberty]

It all goes back to people. Nobody could make hemp "illegal" on their own, no matter how rich. The general public had to allow government to impose that on them. No business or corporation can impose anything on the people, even with government help, without the cooperation of the population. Otherwise, the internet as we know it would have been dead a long time ago.

When "we the people" decide to stop allowing government to destroy our development, then it will stop. Not before then.

How that's going to happen is anyone's guess. There are many, many wonders waiting in the wings... waiting for freedom

[vlad]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stirling_engine

I'd like to have a 4x4 pickup powered by Stirling engine.

[Bear]

My 2 cents on the housing-as-product issue.

There are a lot of things that can be done to make homes more efficient,
more useful, and all around better place to live. However, it's not the builders
who are the limiting factor usually. It's what the public wants and is willing to
pay for that's usually (but not always) the limiting factor. The builders know
this and make their product as bland as possible to appeal to as wide an
audience as possible, to insure that they can actually sell the thing after
they're done building it.

I've run into stupid local ordinances regarding building materials, but in
this case no conspiracy is necessary. Just stupid consumers.

Bear

[Fjolnirsson]

I wasn't sure what you were referring to, exactly.

You missed my point entirely,  which was that there are a whole pile of different versions of the page available through the wayback machine...

Just pick the one you want and point to it.

Ha! You're right, I did miss that, entirely. I only recently "discovered' the wayback machine, and tend to forget about it...

[Roy J. Tellason]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stirling_engine

Which mentions:

Johan de Witt

Hmm.  :-)

An interesting page,  to be sure.  I want one.  Or maybe several...