I honestly don't know what happened to the 2 I'm utterly certain said no... It appears it was something batallion or above knew would make national headlines and so was quietly "dealt with". Both are still serving officers, whether they'll retire generals remains to be seen. Of the SrNCOs I've spoken to, none will "go public" and none have received disciplinary action... none of them know me all that well and this is to be expected. I was after all, an "alte kamerade" of one of their friends.
I have witnessed earlier (1990) refusals to do things that aircrew felt was not what they signed up for and know we escorted them to their aircraft and know they took off... whether they actually carried out the missions (2 5-man crews about a month (?) apart) is information I am nor privy to. I know one crew went complaining all the way to the aircraft and the other went stone-faced and silent. Beyond that, I know they both came back alive... When I say "know" I saw it... I led the security detail that "escorted" them to their aircraft. Neither mission was against the American people or anything so grandiose as world changing events but the incidents serve to "prove" to me both individuals and groups will stand up and say, "No" despite what it means to them or their careers. Meet for a beer for details, I will not provide them herein.
Gerry, Rarick, Vonu, et al - the sad thing is I could be wrong. I had an office mate while on the Air Staff who was an admitted and vocal homophobe. Everything mentioned on the news about gays and lesbians ilicited and response something along the lines of "we oughta line 'em all up and shoot them..." As an avowed libertarian and constitutionalist, I had had enough one fine morning, stopped his rant for the day by quietly saying, "Be careful Randy, you start shooting at "them" and you might be surpirsed whos shooting back. This resulted in two things, less rants from Randy and a persistent rumor I was "in the closet." Randy was a damn good SrNCO- a good leader under fire and in garrison...but would have let his views allow him to follow unlawful and unconstitutional orders. So, I think it will go unit by unit. Rangers will obey, it's their karma... SF and Special Ops as a whole won't. The higher the espirit de corps the more likely they'll follow orders- even bad ones. The bulk of the Air Force will sit it out and so on... as I said earlier, civil war on top of whatever caused the TEOTWAWKI... add this to the mix of 10s of 1000s fleeing cities and....that's why we're talkin'.... in the end Rarick you said it bro- "If I knew then, what I know now..."
Raised a wolf
Now a retired Sheep Dog - still looking after the sheeple